RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-31 Thread Edwards, Richard E.
If you do not employ recently trained individuals, how on earth are they going to obtain the experience that Matt craves, it's beyond me. My daughter recently qualified as an Occupational Therapist, when she asked for the reason that she was unsuccessful in obtaining a post, they

RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-31 Thread Galbraith, Joe
Histoland: I have to agree also. Programs that are graduating students with none of the skills listed in Matt's message are not doing their students or the profession any favors. Programs certified to produce graduates should be required to place these students in rotations that give them

RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-31 Thread Matthew Lunetta
You might be surprised I too agree with Joyce and Richard. I understand very well that a new graduate will not be up to the skill level of an individual that has been working for a while. What I am surprised about is that this program seemed to teach to pass the test and has left all of the

RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-31 Thread Rene J Buesa
Regardless of all the reasoning and good intentions, or even advantages eliminating the practical part of the ASCP (either HT or HTL) and concentrating in the theory only, is like graduating a medical student without doing any hospital rotations. I would not want to be treated by such an MD. If

RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-31 Thread Bernice Frederick
I went through histo school (in 1983-84) and we were taught the skills needed to work in a hospital lab- Many of these came into play when we were preparing our practical. I had to cut at my interview, being a new grad, and once I was hired I had my 3 months probation to have the quality and

RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-31 Thread Podawiltz, Thomas
I have had one tech finish an online HT course and currently a second person looking at going the online route to her HT. In both cases as their supervisor I have had to sign on as their in house trainer. As a trainer it is my job to make sure that they know how to function well in Histology

RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-31 Thread Jennifer MacDonald
Graduating students in histotech programs DO clinical rotations. They have hands-on experience. They are not just learning the theory from books. Rene J Buesa rjbu...@yahoo.com Sent by: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 08/31/2011 07:54 AM To Shirley A. Powell

Re: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-31 Thread Pam Marcum
I have followed this for a while and was wondering why no one is bringing up the lack of Histology Schools and the small number of graduates they can produce per year as an issue.  Online is fine if you have a lab to work in.  However; one of the people no longer at this facility simply did

RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-31 Thread Shirley A. Powell
http://www.naacls.org/docs/Section3_HT.pdf NAACLS spells it out. Online Schools should be following the guidelines. If not they need to rethink their programs if they are approved by NAACLS. sp -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu

RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-31 Thread Marcum, Pamela A
I understand the NAACLS rules and live in reality where it is not always followed due to expediency to have a registered HT. It is not the best way to control how we train new Histologists. -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu

RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-31 Thread joelle weaver
Yes, the old you need experience to get the job, and you need the job to get experience Joelle Weaver MAOM, BA, (HTL) ASCP From: r...@leicester.ac.uk To: mlune...@luhcares.org; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 10:31:25 +0100 Subject: RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy

RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-31 Thread joelle weaver
Matt, your first paragraph is exactly correct in my experience with directing a program. And yes, it did produce very unfortunate results in some cases. Almost to the point of negligence, I came to feel in some situations on the part of the school ( test score focus, seemingly little concern

Re: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-31 Thread Emily Sours
How do you become a certified HT and not have any lab experience?! That's crazy. Not that i know anything about being an HT, but I'm a lab tech and I can't imagine going into the job never having been in a lab at all. What exactly do they teach you?! Emily A great book should leave you with

Re: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-31 Thread Pam Marcum
I will clarify.  This person worked in the gross room as a PA and decided he wanted an HT.  So he watched over the shoulders of the histologists and learned enough to see the basics and then studied for the exam without ever cutting or staining a slide in Histology.  His theory was - I cut

RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-31 Thread Morken, Timothy
But, to take the test you need an affidavit from the pathologist that you worked in the histology lab for at least a year. So something fishy there... Tim Morken -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On

RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-31 Thread Marcum, Pamela A
Tim, I understand that and he got one to sign it!! So it can be done and yes it is not legal or fair and unfortunately, it is not the first time I have heard of it just the first time I actually could verify. Way too late when I got here and it shows we have flaws in the system that are not

Re: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-31 Thread Victor Tobias
Just curious, does NAACLS perform inspections like CAP to re-accredit and are all the programs out there NAACLS accredited? Victor Tobias HT(ASCP) Clinical Applications Analyst University of Washington Medical Center Dept of Pathology Room BB220 1959 NE Pacific Seattle, WA 98195

RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-31 Thread Podawiltz, Thomas
Just to let you know, I don't let new techs near prostate, liver or any other kind of needle biopsy for at least a year. Why put them under that kind of pressure? I want them to stay in the field. I figure working for me is torture enough. We give new techs up to three years to get up to speed

RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-30 Thread Weems, Joyce
I don't understand how a student of any program would have not a portion of their program dedicated to these skills. We partner with Darton College and their students to do a certain number of hours for their Clinicals. They know how to do those things, are trained by the clinical coordinator

RE: [Histonet] Re:peggy wenk comments on HT/HTL practical - To stick a Pin

2011-08-30 Thread Shirley A. Powell
I second that Joyce. sp From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Weems, Joyce [jwe...@sjha.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 6:17 PM To: Matthew Lunetta; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu