[Histonet] Methyl green going away...

2012-04-16 Thread Alonso Martinez-Canabal
  Hi 

my boss requires me to counterstain some DAB immunohistochemistry with
methyl green. I use for that purpose the methyl  green in aquos solution
0.5% in 4.2 acetate buffer. The problem is that after the washes I dehydrate
and the methyl green becomes extremely faint with the alcohols. My protocol
requires long periods of alcoholic dehydration very graded. Is there any
idea on how to save the methyl green. Can I use an alcoholic solution?
Thank you very much. 

Alonso 

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[Histonet] CAP Question

2012-04-16 Thread Schaundra Walton


I have a question regarding a new CAP checklist question
dealing with ER/PR validation.  The new question is ANP.22976 ER/PgR
Validation and states: 
  
“If the laboratory performs immunohistochemistry for
estrogen receptor (ER) and/or progesterone receptor (PgR) as a
prognostic/predictive marker on breast carcinoma, the laboratory has documented
appropriate validation for the assay(s).  
 Note: Initial test validation should include a
minimum of 40 cases (20 positive and 20 negative cases) for
FDA-approved/cleared tests; laboratories should consider using higher numbers
of test cases if a Laboratory Developed or Laboratory Modified Test is to be
validated.  Validation should be performed by comparing the laboratory’s
results with another assay that has been appropriately validated. 
Acceptable concordance levels are 90% for positive results and 95% for negative
results.  If significant changes are made to the testing methods (e.g.
antibody clones, antigen retrieval protocol or detection system) revalidation
is required. “ 
  
Our original validation was done in 2005 and was performed
with 20 cases.  Do we need to revalidate to be compliant with this
question?  Should we start from scratch or just do an additional 20 cases?  
 
Any feedback is appreciated.
 
Thanks! 
Schaundra Walton BS HTL(ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
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[Histonet] A big thanks

2012-04-16 Thread nancy lowen
I would like to say a big thank you to everyone who replied and sent me ideas 
to get the wrinkles out of the diaphysis of the mouse tibias I was cutting. 
Will be trying out some of the tips I received.
Thanks again
Nancy Lowen
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RE: [Histonet] CAP Question -ER/PR Validation

2012-04-16 Thread Settembre, Dana
You should pose that question to CAP via
acc...@cap.org

they answer quickly and when they do you can print out their answer and keep 
for when your inspectors come.

When I asked them that question, they said that it was usually at the 
discretion of the pathologist in charge.  But instead of taking my word for 
It, email them  and when you receive their response, print it.
Then follow their instructions.

Dana Settembre


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I have a question regarding a new CAP checklist question
dealing with ER/PR validation.  The new question is ANP.22976 ER/PgR
Validation and states: 
  
If the laboratory performs immunohistochemistry for
estrogen receptor (ER) and/or progesterone receptor (PgR) as a
prognostic/predictive marker on breast carcinoma, the laboratory has documented
appropriate validation for the assay(s).  
 Note: Initial test validation should include a
minimum of 40 cases (20 positive and 20 negative cases) for
FDA-approved/cleared tests; laboratories should consider using higher numbers
of test cases if a Laboratory Developed or Laboratory Modified Test is to be
validated.  Validation should be performed by comparing the laboratory's
results with another assay that has been appropriately validated. 
Acceptable concordance levels are 90% for positive results and 95% for negative
results.  If significant changes are made to the testing methods (e.g.
antibody clones, antigen retrieval protocol or detection system) revalidation
is required.  
  
Our original validation was done in 2005 and was performed
with 20 cases.  Do we need to revalidate to be compliant with this
question?  Should we start from scratch or just do an additional 20 cases?  
 
Any feedback is appreciated.
 
Thanks! 
Schaundra Walton BS HTL(ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
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RE: [Histonet] CAP Question

2012-04-16 Thread Morken, Timothy
Shaundra,

The CAP requirements are for those who are starting ER/PR for the first time, 
or changing antibodies to a new clone. If you did the validation years ago 
before those recommendations came out and have a history of running it 
successfully then you do not have to re-validate the procedure.

If you change antibodies to new clones, then you would have to do the more 
extensive validation.

Tim Morken


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Subject: [Histonet] CAP Question



I have a question regarding a new CAP checklist question dealing with ER/PR 
validation.  The new question is ANP.22976 ER/PgR Validation and states: 
  
“If the laboratory performs immunohistochemistry for estrogen receptor (ER) 
and/or progesterone receptor (PgR) as a prognostic/predictive marker on breast 
carcinoma, the laboratory has documented appropriate validation for the 
assay(s).  
 Note: Initial test validation should include a minimum of 40 cases (20 
positive and 20 negative cases) for FDA-approved/cleared tests; laboratories 
should consider using higher numbers of test cases if a Laboratory Developed or 
Laboratory Modified Test is to be validated.  Validation should be performed by 
comparing the laboratory’s results with another assay that has been 
appropriately validated. Acceptable concordance levels are 90% for positive 
results and 95% for negative results.  If significant changes are made to the 
testing methods (e.g.
antibody clones, antigen retrieval protocol or detection system) revalidation 
is required. “ 
  
Our original validation was done in 2005 and was performed with 20 cases.  Do 
we need to revalidate to be compliant with this question?  Should we start from 
scratch or just do an additional 20 cases?  
 
Any feedback is appreciated.
 
Thanks!
Schaundra Walton BS HTL(ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
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[Histonet] Re: Histonet Digest, Vol 101, Issue 21

2012-04-16 Thread Madeleine Huey
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 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:26:47 -0400
 From: Alonso Martinez-Canabal alonso.martinezcana...@utoronto.ca
 Subject: [Histonet] Methyl green going away...
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  Hi

 my boss requires me to counterstain some DAB immunohistochemistry with
 methyl green. I use for that purpose the methyl  green in aquos solution
 0.5% in 4.2 acetate buffer. The problem is that after the washes I dehydrate
 and the methyl green becomes extremely faint with the alcohols. My protocol
 requires long periods of alcoholic dehydration very graded. Is there any
 idea on how to save the methyl green. Can I use an alcoholic solution?
 Thank you very much.

 Alonso

Alonso,

Another alternative is; Drying the slide in the oven @~ 60c  for 10
min after the methly green counterstain.

Madeleine Huey BS, HTL/QIHC (ASCP)
Supervisor - Pathology (IPOX  Histology)
madeleineh...@elcaminohospital.org

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[Histonet] Tissue Processor

2012-04-16 Thread Gauch, Vicki
Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone had any input on the Logos tissue processor by 
Milestone.  Is anyone currently using it and what are the pros and cons, etc. . 
 Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Vicki Gauch
AMCH
Albany, NY



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[Histonet] Re: IHC in porcine tissues

2012-04-16 Thread Galina Deyneko


Dear Colleagues
 What  secondary antibody or polymer would be better to use for mouse primary 
antibody on FFPE  porcine tissues?Also, please share your experience regarding 
macrophages detection in porcine arteries. I found couple in Abcam and Serotec 
(only for frozen), but your opinions is very valuable.
Thank you

Galina Deyneko
Novartis, Cambridge, MA
617-782-1675 home
617-871-7613 w

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RE: [Histonet] Re: IHC in porcine tissues

2012-04-16 Thread Elizabeth Chlipala
Galina

Try MAC387 that is a macrophage/monocyte marker that cross reacts in porcine.  
We use the one from abcam.  We have found that some of the anti-mouse polymer 
reagents cross react to porcine so we use a rabbit anti-mouse from Dako E0464 
as a secondary and then an envision rabbit or strept avidin and that works much 
better.

Liz

Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
Manager
Premier Laboratory, LLC
PO Box 18592
Boulder, CO 80308-1592
(303) 682-3949 office
(303) 682-9060 fax
(303) 881-0763 cell
www.premierlab.com

Ship to address:

1567 Skyway Drive, Unit E
Longmont, CO 80504

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Subject: [Histonet] Re: IHC in porcine tissues



Dear Colleagues
 What  secondary antibody or polymer would be better to use for mouse primary 
antibody on FFPE  porcine tissues?Also, please share your experience regarding 
macrophages detection in porcine arteries. I found couple in Abcam and Serotec 
(only for frozen), but your opinions is very valuable.
Thank you

Galina Deyneko
Novartis, Cambridge, MA
617-782-1675 home
617-871-7613 w

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RE: [Histonet] Methyl green going away...

2012-04-16 Thread Tony Henwood (SCHN)
You could try dehydrating in acetone (very quick).

Regards 
Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA) 
Laboratory Manager  Senior Scientist 
Tel: 612 9845 3306 
Fax: 612 9845 3318 
the children's hospital at westmead
Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA 

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Martinez-Canabal
Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2012 1:27 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Methyl green going away...

  Hi 

my boss requires me to counterstain some DAB immunohistochemistry with methyl 
green. I use for that purpose the methyl  green in aquos solution 0.5% in 4.2 
acetate buffer. The problem is that after the washes I dehydrate and the methyl 
green becomes extremely faint with the alcohols. My protocol requires long 
periods of alcoholic dehydration very graded. Is there any idea on how to save 
the methyl green. Can I use an alcoholic solution?
Thank you very much. 

Alonso 

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