Yes Victoria, Canadian laboratories can participate in HistoQIP as well.
Eric Gagnon MLT
Histology Laboratory
Kingston General Hospital,
Kingston, Ontario, Canada
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Beth, as Bob Richmond has noted regarding saffron,
The most common use is as the hematoxylin-phloxin-saffron (HPS)
trichrome stain. It was in use as a general oversight stain in a few
pathology services when I was a resident in the 1960's...
and is still in use here in Ontario by about 10% of
Responding to Del who asked about pros/cons of Ventana BenchMark XT:
Ventana is often equated with 'closed system'. This is a misnomer. The
only thing I regard as closed (besides some colleagues' minds on this
issue) is the detection system kit and bulk reagents that are used on
the
Have any histonetters had experience with paperless order entry using a
HIS-Copath interface? All our clinical laboratories have just gone to
paperless order entry on patient floors and clinics, and would be interested in
any other sites' experiences that use these same systems.
We have
Interesting thread about block alignment. Bernice makes a good point about
Newcomer's level, and the possible effects of benchtop or floor not being
level; perhaps the stage-mounted tools are preferable. We have a stage-mounted
tool, which brings me to another point.
Before this type of tool
Speaking of block alignment, when this topic comes up, someone invariably pipes
up... Hey, is your head on straight?
Eric
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Hi Karen,
Here's a response to your question, as I haven't seen any others (?) While I
haven't used the Newcomer handgrip device, I developed have DeQuervain's
Tenosynovitis , a repetitive strain injury from turnin' the ol' microtome wheel
for 28 or so years now. I would definitely recommend
Hi Sheila,
What are the Ontario Laboratory Accreditation requirements questions that you
have regarding IHC? We were assessed in spring/09. We run well over a hundred
markers using three Ventana BenchMark XT's.
Eric Gagnon MLT
Histology Laboratory
Kingston General Hospital
Kingston,
Hi Anita,
We are currently examining the negative control issue in our laboratory. We
also have Ventanas. We currently use a normal goat serum as our non-immune
serum. We are considering changing our SOP's to use the Ventana Neg Control
Rabbit and Neg Control Mouse in dispensers.
Hi Sheila,
HPS (Hematoxylin-Phloxine-Saffron) is the routine stain we use. There are a
few institutions in Canada that also still use this stain; around Ottawa and a
few other places in Ontario and Quebec. Perhaps one of these institutions sent
slides to your pathologist for
Having just validated and started using Biocare Universal Negative Control
Serum, we were surprised when a pathologist brought back two cases in which
tumour and/or epithelium came up positive. This staining was in the same
locations as positive staining with some markers. We use Ventana
Tony's answer (62 degrees C for 25 mins) is the minimum to ensure section
adheres to slide. We all have to stain slides that have been baked longer than
30 mins. However, especially for Her2, longer baking times can result in false
negatives or at least diminished staining. The justification
Ours is a Sanyo Medical MPR-1013 R double glass-door model with both pullout
and stationary shelves. We looked at buying a second-hand unit, but were able
to buy brand-new. We call it our dream fridge having made do with some
older, much less satisfactory ones before the Sanyo arrived. It
We have this same model which we use for routine staining, as well as the
smaller Dako product we use for IHC and special stains. We've recently been
advised to use microtome oil to lubricate the V-shaped grippers on the CV5030,
as the previously-suggested grease was only causing more buildup
Desperately trying to salvage something positive out of this justifiably
acrimonious thread...may I suggest the following blade conservation strategy,
that though perhaps well-known, hasn't come up in this discussion yet.
By using one blade as a trimming blade, the 'edge' on the next blade will
London, Ontario.
Eric Gagnon MLT
Histology Laboratory
Kingston General Hospital
Kingston, Ontario, Canada
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Barb,
Have you tried a diamond pencil? Available from a variety of sources, these
pencils can be used to etch a circle or other shape around the tissue to be
viewed. I believe they use lesser-quality industrial diamonds to make the tips
on the pencils (i.e. not the diamond ring quality).
In our laboratory, we have also experienced this, especially with microtomes.
As Jennifer has said, it seemed decal solution containing RDO was the culprit,
when used in proximity to microtomes. Techs who used RDO for surface
decalcification had more rusting on exposed metal parts of the
Has anyone successfully lobbied their institution for an automated coverslipper
for safety reasons?
Still coverslipping manually-stained IHC, neuro autopsy and special stains,
sometimes hundreds per day. There has to be a better way. Under budget
constraints. That's why I'm wondering if
I should add to my earlier post this morning:
-we do use an automated coverslipper for our routine HPS staining, which is
several hundred slides daily as well
-we do have a fumehood over the main manual coverslipping area
-we have had airborne solvent levels measured, but my concern relates to
A word of thanks for the plethora of responses regarding justification of
additional automated coverslipping capacity for our laboratory. We will be
considering all your suggestions, combining safety benefits with productivity
gains to improve our workflow. You are all truly a valued and
Hi Dorothy,
I concur with what Rene has mentioned. Main cost would be microtome-related,
if you don't have microtomes that can handle mega cassettes. Other
process-related costs i.e. fixation, tech time, supplies wouldn't be much
different once process was optimized. In fact, tech time is
Hi Milton,
We've begun baking ALL IHC slides for 2 hours at 60 degrees C. This also
applies to unstained extra slides that may potentially used for IHC, including
extra sections on breast cores, lymph node cores, cytology cell blocks etc. No
specific room temperature drying time before the
Patrick, or anyone else using the alpco product...can you give some
details/feedback on how this anti human C4d (FITC-Conjugated) is working for
you, and whether you were able to replace two steps with one for C4d IF
staining? I checked that website, and the pdf on this product reads:
The
To add to the recent discussion about how many blocks can be cut per hour, the
College of Medical Laboratory Technologists of Ontario published Practice
Guidelines for Medical Laboratory Technologists Practising in Histology fairly
recently, in 2008, which may be of use in this context. The
CBG Biotech Benchtop Solvent Recycler Model MSLV-03U, has only been used
occasionally, free to a good laboratory home. If you would like this
instrument, only requirement is that you pay shipping, please send email
off-list to:
gagn...@kgh.kari.net
Recycler product information here:
Andria, another factor may be trimming the GI biopsy blocks. If trimming
increments are too large, it may rip some of the deeper tissue out of the
block, causing holes or possibly the chatter you are seeing. Check the block
after trimming to see if there is any unevenness to the surface.
To add to the recent discussion about how many blocks can be embedded per hour,
the College of Medical Laboratory Technologists of Ontario recently published
MLT practice guidelines which may be of use. The practice guidelines are
intended to support, not replace, the exercise of professional
Hi Angela,
We used Ventana FITC Primary Antibodies.
Thanks,
Eric
From: Angela Bitting [mailto:akbitt...@geisinger.edu]
Sent: Wed 2/11/2009 5:11 PM
To: Gagnon, Eric
Subject: Re: [Histonet] IF Protocol on skin
Hi eric,
You said you experimented with using
From: Gudrun Lang [mailto:gu.l...@gmx.at]
Sent: Thu 2/12/2009 10:41 AM
To: Gagnon, Eric
Subject: AW: [Histonet] IF Protocol on skin
Hi Eric,
thanks for your response. I have several further questions.
Did you stain frozen renal sections in the benchmark? Or did you also try
NBF
I was always of the opinion that since a delipidized frozen section, treated
with toluene/methanol, run in parallel with the patient slide constituted
adequate control. Recently though, I've mellowed and realized that only shows
a difference in staining between the two slides, not the
Hi Allison,
We cut our prostate whole mounts on the Leica RM2255 automated microtome. We
obtained their Super Mega Cassette Clamp, (part no 140502 38967). This clamp
mounts easily onto the microtome, and holds SurgiPath SuperCassettes ( Cat No
VSP59067B-BX grey in colour). The beauty of this
Peggy's reach in our field went beyond borders. Here and I'm sure in other
Canadian sites, we were fortunate to benefit from her enthusiasm and expertise
online in forums such as this, as well as through teleconferences and blogging.
Such knowledge and years of experience are not easily or
AKA Roll-call of the Histo-lifers!
Started in Histo 1985. Spent 3.5 years in Hematology, but had to leave because
I became bored with their incessant blood testing. Where were the interesting
Histo bits and pieces I was so used to seeing and glomming?
Our laboratory nearly-completely
We receive kidney biopsies brought directly to our grossing area within a few
minutes after the cores are obtained. Previously, this was done by
nephrologists, but since the renal biopsies are performed in radiology, the
interventional radiologist brings them. We decide adequacy first, then
What are you placing tissue blocks in before decalcification? We place blocks
for decal in a jar of Bouin's Fixative from any time on Day 1, for specimens
received in 10% NBF, until decalcification starts on Day 2. In other words, we
gross specimens received in 10% NBF, then fix overnight in
We currently place 3 ribbons of 5-6 sections, at each of three levels, 'down'
the slide. This may be too many sections for the pathologists' needs. A
suggestion for us going forward would be as Lacy Normington suggests - one or
two sections at three or four levels, also, placing these short
Agree with your opinion re: including special stain control tissue and patient
tissue on same slide, Curt.
Assuming you're referring to FFPE tissue, there is little if any chance of the
control tissue contaminating the patient tissue on the same slide, thus causing
a 'false positive' in the
Is anyone in Histoland using white bench-covering products, either in roll form
or in sheets? (These are white, shiny-coated on one side, and have the
consistency of filter paper on the other.) In the past, we have taped them to
benchtops to provide a clean look.
Are these still in
As Greg has already mentioned, placing control sections on each patient slide
will assist in troubleshooting your staining issue. Joanne, I don't believe you
mentioned it in your initial email, but did you attempt a repeat and if so, did
the results replicate on the repeat? Occasionally there
Hi Greg,
Permit me a few thoughts on factors not mentioned in your email:
* Do your slides 'look' baked/is the wax melted when they are removed from
the oven?
* Also, is there variance in your oven temperature?
* Especially vexing is the fact that control sections are lifting. Are
Jim,
Our PA's collect formalin after each specimen, dumping it into a waste 10-litre
carboy. Most of the waste containers are in a small lab sink beside each
grossing area. A funnel positioned in the neck of the carboy not only helps
channel the formalin, it also keeps the container mostly
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