Re: [Histonet] Beaker with or without Vantage
We use Beaker across our system and like anything it has its pros and cons. Tim is correct, it was NOT developed for Pathology, rather for physicians and the lab module was an afterthought. Our IHC lab uses Vantage with Middleware and things go really well for them to my knowledge, but it certainly wasn’t without its challenges. Changing any system is going to come with growing pains, for sure, but some of the things I would want “redone” include tracking, as a multiple site system we have issues with packing lists moving tests with materials to other labs and keeping the pathologists from signing cases out. We lose our tracking from the gross station and pick it back up at embedding, using manual batch tracking sheets for what goes on the processors. I believe something has been built to help with this and we use a wingman system, so others might not have this issue. From a manager perspective, The report system is getting a little insane as with upgrades there seems to be unforeseen changes that impact reports you may rely on, also there are a variety of ways to develop or run reports (workbench reports, Clarity and Universe!) and the redundancy is getting confusing. From the bench perspective, depending on the type of lab you are, accessioning is accomplished three different ways for us, client specimens that we have to register, within system specimens that are ordered in a manner that we have to go “grab” the order and the ideal way where we simply scan the label and input the task protocol (again within the system, but why can the doctors/nurses use two different ways to input the order??). Scanning the barcodes from the cassettes can be an issue, but that is not Beakers fault, make sure you have solid cassette printers. Lastly, the physicians view in Epic is much different than your view in Beaker, this has caused confusion when trying to find things like additional testing reports performed outside and then scanned in. We have hammered through the majority of these issues and the Beaker team is great at helping out and thinking outside the box to smooth out workflows. Oh, and billing! Make sure you test all the way through patient accounting! Stay positive, as noted, likely the choice isn’t yours to make, but how you approach it is. Build a good relationship with your Beaker team, prioritize your needs and chip away. It will work out. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 29, 2017, at 2:19 PM, Morken, Timothy via Histonet > <histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> wrote: > > Ginny, when you say "slow down our whole process" is that slowness in the > system or mismatch of the LIS to the pathology process? > > My understanding is that this was originally designed for use in public > health labs (EpicLab), which are quite different than pathology labs. Now > they are trying to adapt a thirty-year old non-pathology system to pathology. > Sure would be nice if someone would just use a new pathology-specific LIS > built with new technology! Why do we keep having to keep having > non-pathology people shove things on us and demand we adapt to their > ignorance? We went thru this with Copath for many years and had to teach them > how pathology works (they should have been paying us for our knowledge, not > charging us to teach them!). Now it seems it is coming around again in a new > form. > > > Tim Morken > Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus > Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies > Department of Pathology > UC San Francisco Medical Center > > From: Kurth Virginia L. [mailto:vku...@uwhealth.org] > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:16 AM > To: Morken, Timothy; Martha Ward-Pathology > Subject: Re: Beaker with or without Vantage > > > Hello > > We switched to beaker this year, and it definitely had growing pains. > > I personally believe it was made for a doctor not a lab, and seemed to slow > down our whole process, > > but everyone is going to it. It helps patient care in the aspect of everyone > is on the same page with that > > patient. I think that more and more kinks will be worked out as it continues > to adapt to the lab setting. I think > > asking people when they switched should be considered because it has evolved. > Good Luck! > > > > > > Ginny Kurth > > > UW Hospital of Wisconsin > > > From: Martha Ward-Pathology via Histonet > <histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 12:30:57 PM > To: Morken, Timothy > Cc: > histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> > Subject: Re: [Histonet] Beaker with or without Vantage > > WARNING: This e
Re: [Histonet] Beaker with or without Vantage
Ginny, when you say "slow down our whole process" is that slowness in the system or mismatch of the LIS to the pathology process? My understanding is that this was originally designed for use in public health labs (EpicLab), which are quite different than pathology labs. Now they are trying to adapt a thirty-year old non-pathology system to pathology. Sure would be nice if someone would just use a new pathology-specific LIS built with new technology! Why do we keep having to keep having non-pathology people shove things on us and demand we adapt to their ignorance? We went thru this with Copath for many years and had to teach them how pathology works (they should have been paying us for our knowledge, not charging us to teach them!). Now it seems it is coming around again in a new form. Tim Morken Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies Department of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center From: Kurth Virginia L. [mailto:vku...@uwhealth.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:16 AM To: Morken, Timothy; Martha Ward-Pathology Subject: Re: Beaker with or without Vantage Hello We switched to beaker this year, and it definitely had growing pains. I personally believe it was made for a doctor not a lab, and seemed to slow down our whole process, but everyone is going to it. It helps patient care in the aspect of everyone is on the same page with that patient. I think that more and more kinks will be worked out as it continues to adapt to the lab setting. I think asking people when they switched should be considered because it has evolved. Good Luck! Ginny Kurth UW Hospital of Wisconsin From: Martha Ward-Pathology via Histonet <histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 12:30:57 PM To: Morken, Timothy Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Beaker with or without Vantage WARNING: This email appears to have originated outside of the UW Health email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. "They" aren't the ones that will have to use it.therein lies the rub! I have not heard many positive things about AP Beaker. Martha Ward, MT (ASCP) QIHC Manager Molecular Diagnostics Lab Medical Center Boulevard \ Winston-Salem, NC 27157 p 336.716.2109 \ f 336.716.5890 mw...@wakehealth.edu<mailto:mw...@wakehealth.edu> -Original Message- From: Morken, Timothy via Histonet [mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 11:48 AM To: Histonet Subject: Re: [Histonet] Beaker with or without Vantage I am interested as well. "They" are threatening us with a move to Beaker in the future Tim Morken Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies Department of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center -Original Message- From: Blake Taylor via Histonet [mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 8:10 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> Subject: [Histonet] Beaker with or without Vantage I'm looking for anyone out there that has switched to Beaker for AP, Also do you use Ventana Connect with Beaker? Did you choose to use the Beaker tracking system or is anyone using Beaker in conjunction with Vantage? Our Hospital is in the beginning phase of moving from Copath Sunquest to Beaker (2017 version) . Any thoughts of what has gone well and what has not would be appreciated. Thanks so much Blake Taylor Surgical Pathology Supervisor Lexington Medical Center 803-936-8214 bcdu...@lexhealth.org<mailto:bcdu...@lexhealth.org> PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This electronic message and any attachments are confidential property of the sender. The information is intended only for the use to the person to whom it was addressed. Any other interception, copying, accessing, or disclosure of this message is prohibited. The sender takes no responsibility for any unauthorized reliance on this message. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and purge the message you received. Do not forward this message without permission. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Hi
Re: [Histonet] Beaker with or without Vantage
"They" aren't the ones that will have to use it.therein lies the rub! I have not heard many positive things about AP Beaker. Martha Ward, MT (ASCP) QIHC Manager Molecular Diagnostics Lab Medical Center Boulevard \ Winston-Salem, NC 27157 p 336.716.2109 \ f 336.716.5890 mw...@wakehealth.edu -Original Message- From: Morken, Timothy via Histonet [mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 11:48 AM To: Histonet Subject: Re: [Histonet] Beaker with or without Vantage I am interested as well. "They" are threatening us with a move to Beaker in the future Tim Morken Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies Department of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center -Original Message- From: Blake Taylor via Histonet [mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 8:10 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] Beaker with or without Vantage I'm looking for anyone out there that has switched to Beaker for AP, Also do you use Ventana Connect with Beaker? Did you choose to use the Beaker tracking system or is anyone using Beaker in conjunction with Vantage? Our Hospital is in the beginning phase of moving from Copath Sunquest to Beaker (2017 version) . Any thoughts of what has gone well and what has not would be appreciated. Thanks so much Blake Taylor Surgical Pathology Supervisor Lexington Medical Center 803-936-8214 bcdu...@lexhealth.org PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This electronic message and any attachments are confidential property of the sender. The information is intended only for the use to the person to whom it was addressed. Any other interception, copying, accessing, or disclosure of this message is prohibited. The sender takes no responsibility for any unauthorized reliance on this message. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and purge the message you received. Do not forward this message without permission. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] Beaker with or without Vantage
I'm a member of API - Association for Pathology Informatics and they have a list server similar to the histonet and there is always posts about Epic Beaker. You might find some information on their website. https://www.pathologyinformatics.org/ Liz Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC Premier Laboratory, LLC PO Box 18592 Boulder, CO 80308 (303) 682-3949 office (303) 682-9060 fax (303) 881-0763 cell l...@premierlab.com<mailto:l...@premierlab.com> www.premierlab.com<http://www.premierlab.com/> Ship to Address: Premier Laboratory, LLC 1567 Skyway Drive, Unit E Longmont, CO 80504 From: Morken, Timothy via Histonet [mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 9:48 AM To: Histonet <histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Beaker with or without Vantage I am interested as well. "They" are threatening us with a move to Beaker in the future Tim Morken Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies Department of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center -Original Message- From: Blake Taylor via Histonet [mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 8:10 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> Subject: [Histonet] Beaker with or without Vantage I'm looking for anyone out there that has switched to Beaker for AP, Also do you use Ventana Connect with Beaker? Did you choose to use the Beaker tracking system or is anyone using Beaker in conjunction with Vantage? Our Hospital is in the beginning phase of moving from Copath Sunquest to Beaker (2017 version) . Any thoughts of what has gone well and what has not would be appreciated. Thanks so much Blake Taylor Surgical Pathology Supervisor Lexington Medical Center 803-936-8214 bcdu...@lexhealth.org<mailto:bcdu...@lexhealth.org> PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This electronic message and any attachments are confidential property of the sender. The information is intended only for the use to the person to whom it was addressed. Any other interception, copying, accessing, or disclosure of this message is prohibited. The sender takes no responsibility for any unauthorized reliance on this message. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and purge the message you received. Do not forward this message without permission. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
Re: [Histonet] Beaker with or without Vantage
I am interested as well. "They" are threatening us with a move to Beaker in the future Tim Morken Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies Department of Pathology UC San Francisco Medical Center -Original Message- From: Blake Taylor via Histonet [mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 8:10 AM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: [Histonet] Beaker with or without Vantage I'm looking for anyone out there that has switched to Beaker for AP, Also do you use Ventana Connect with Beaker? Did you choose to use the Beaker tracking system or is anyone using Beaker in conjunction with Vantage? Our Hospital is in the beginning phase of moving from Copath Sunquest to Beaker (2017 version) . Any thoughts of what has gone well and what has not would be appreciated. Thanks so much Blake Taylor Surgical Pathology Supervisor Lexington Medical Center 803-936-8214 bcdu...@lexhealth.org PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This electronic message and any attachments are confidential property of the sender. The information is intended only for the use to the person to whom it was addressed. Any other interception, copying, accessing, or disclosure of this message is prohibited. The sender takes no responsibility for any unauthorized reliance on this message. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and purge the message you received. Do not forward this message without permission. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
[Histonet] Beaker with or without Vantage
I'm looking for anyone out there that has switched to Beaker for AP, Also do you use Ventana Connect with Beaker? Did you choose to use the Beaker tracking system or is anyone using Beaker in conjunction with Vantage? Our Hospital is in the beginning phase of moving from Copath Sunquest to Beaker (2017 version) . Any thoughts of what has gone well and what has not would be appreciated. Thanks so much Blake Taylor Surgical Pathology Supervisor Lexington Medical Center 803-936-8214 bcdu...@lexhealth.org PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This electronic message and any attachments are confidential property of the sender. The information is intended only for the use to the person to whom it was addressed. Any other interception, copying, accessing, or disclosure of this message is prohibited. The sender takes no responsibility for any unauthorized reliance on this message. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and purge the message you received. Do not forward this message without permission. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
