Re: [Histonet] PPE for the Histology lab

2019-09-09 Thread Morken, Timothy via Histonet
Martha, that is an extreme view. Eye and face protection in pathology are 
primarily for splash protection from either chemicals or body fluids. I can't 
see any need for people sectioning, embedding, etc. Maybe for special stains. 
Yes for pouring a lot of chemicals. And the idea that anyone visiting the lab, 
not doing any of the work, always needing eye and gown protection is not 
necessary unless they are observing work with possible fluid splash or other 
kind of exposure. And then I would expect to inform them of whatever danger 
they are in by exposure. 

What you need to do is a risk assessment of each task and how likely various 
hazards are for each task, then determine what protections are needed. 

When we have issues like this we call in our Environmental Health and Safety 
department to assess the issue. They are good about keeping things practical. 
We recently had them assess liquid nitrogen use in our lab after CAP came out 
with some recommendations about needing oxygen sensors when using liquid 
nitrogen that spooked our director. They came in with oxygen sensors and 
determined we have plenty of ventilation and don't need them. At the same time 
they reviewed all our use of liquid nitrogen and passed off on our procedures 
and made a few practical recommendations.


Tim Morken
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies
Department of Pathology
UC San Francisco Medical Center

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Subject: [Histonet] PPE for the Histology lab

Our department is looking at safety issues and one suggestion from our CLIA 
director is that everyone in the lab (our lab performs IHC only) should wear 
gloves, a gown and eye or face protection at all times and requiring it for 
anyone that enters the lab.   We have task specific PPE requirements for these 
items to be worn when changing solutions on the stainers or working with serum 
for our indirect immunofluorescence for example but don't require it for FFPE 
microtomy or loading the IHC stainers.   What are others requiring in their 
labs?

Thanks in advance for your feedback on this issue.

Martha Ward
Manager, Molecular Diagnostics Lab
Wake Forest Baptist Health
Winston-Salem, NC 27157
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[Histonet] PPE for the Histology lab

2019-09-09 Thread Martha Ward-Pathology via Histonet
Our department is looking at safety issues and one suggestion from our CLIA 
director is that everyone in the lab (our lab performs IHC only) should wear 
gloves, a gown and eye or face protection at all times and requiring it for 
anyone that enters the lab.   We have task specific PPE requirements for these 
items to be worn when changing solutions on the stainers or working with serum 
for our indirect immunofluorescence for example but don't require it for FFPE 
microtomy or loading the IHC stainers.   What are others requiring in their 
labs?

Thanks in advance for your feedback on this issue.

Martha Ward
Manager, Molecular Diagnostics Lab
Wake Forest Baptist Health
Winston-Salem, NC 27157
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