RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time

2014-02-04 Thread Martha Ward-Pathology
Rene,

No not the quality of the slides at all.  Actually my lab does not do the 
processing and initial HE, which is done in our main histology lab.   My 
concern is that the push for quicker TATs sometimes leads to inadequate 
fixation, etc., which affects our lab.I'm just saying that fast does not 
always with better, but there is no reason not to stream line our processes and 
try to provide more timely results.

Of course any case requiring our lab services (IHC, ISH, PCR) is going to have 
a longer TAT.   We generally have a 24 hour TAT on our IHC and ISH and of 
course longer on our PCR testing as those are batched.

More of an editorial comment that anything else

Martha

From: Rene J Buesa [mailto:rjbu...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 4:38 PM
To: Martha Ward-Pathology; Dawn Bugge; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Turn Around Time

Martha:
So, do you mean that you are not satisfied with the quality of your slides?
If you are, I just do not understand your concerns about a 24 h TAT!
The fundamental issue is to develop adequate protocols assuring quality as well 
as a convenient (24 h) TAT.
Just my 3 cents (after inflation!)
René J.

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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time

While I recognize the need for a quick result in some cases, I also subscribe 
to the theory that speed kills.  I'm not sure that these quick TATs are 
always medically necessary, but rather more of a convenience.However that 
is another discussion altogether.  That said, our institution shoots for the 
80% in 24 hours as well.



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Manager

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Medical Center Boulevard  \  Winston-Salem, NC 27157
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Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time

Hello Histonet

I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around Time is for most labs.
I think a two day turn around time from the time the biopsy gets to the lab to 
the time the pathologist signs out a case is pretty fast.

Thanks for your input.
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Seattle Histology
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RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time

2014-02-03 Thread Tom McNemar
Our benchmark is 24 hour TAT for 80% of cases.  We provide same-day service for 
recuts and most in-house special stains.

Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Licking Memorial Health Systems
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Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time

Hello Histonet

I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around Time is for most labs.
I think a two day turn around time from the time the biopsy gets to the lab
to the time the pathologist signs out a case is pretty fast.

Thanks for your input.
--
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Seattle Histology
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RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time

2014-02-03 Thread joelle weaver
ditto. Only FISH is allowed to take longer 




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 
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 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 12:49:14 -0500
 Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
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 Our benchmark is 24 hour TAT for 80% of cases.  We provide same-day service 
 for recuts and most in-house special stains.
 
 Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
 Histology Supervisor
 Licking Memorial Health Systems
 (740) 348-4163
 (740) 348-4166
 tmcne...@lmhealth.org
 www.LMHealth.org
 
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 Hello Histonet
 
 I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around Time is for most labs.
 I think a two day turn around time from the time the biopsy gets to the lab
 to the time the pathologist signs out a case is pretty fast.
 
 Thanks for your input.
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 Seattle Histology
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Re: [Histonet] Turn Around Time

2014-02-03 Thread Jay Lundgren
Yesterday.

 Sincerely?

  Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL (ASCP)


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:56 AM, joelle weaver joellewea...@hotmail.comwrote:

 ditto. Only FISH is allowed to take longer




 Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC

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  Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 12:49:14 -0500
  Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
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  Our benchmark is 24 hour TAT for 80% of cases.  We provide same-day
 service for recuts and most in-house special stains.
 
  Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
  Histology Supervisor
  Licking Memorial Health Systems
  (740) 348-4163
  (740) 348-4166
  tmcne...@lmhealth.org
  www.LMHealth.org
 
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  Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:43 PM
  To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
  Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
 
  Hello Histonet
 
  I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around Time is for most
 labs.
  I think a two day turn around time from the time the biopsy gets to the
 lab
  to the time the pathologist signs out a case is pretty fast.
 
  Thanks for your input.
  --
  Dawn R Bugge
  Seattle Histology
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Re: [Histonet] Turn Around Time

2014-02-03 Thread Rene J Buesa
In the US the standard (or most frequent) TAT is 24 hours. In other countries 
the TAT varies greatly, in extreme cases up to 1 week for surgicals!
René J.



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Our benchmark is 24 hour TAT for 80% of cases.  We provide same-day service for 
recuts and most in-house special stains.

Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Licking Memorial Health Systems
(740) 348-4163
(740) 348-4166
tmcne...@lmhealth.org
www.LMHealth.org

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To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time

Hello Histonet

I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around Time is for most labs.
I think a two day turn around time from the time the biopsy gets to the lab
to the time the pathologist signs out a case is pretty fast.

Thanks for your input.
--
Dawn R Bugge
Seattle Histology
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RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time

2014-02-03 Thread Martha Ward-Pathology
While I recognize the need for a quick result in some cases, I also subscribe 
to the theory that speed kills.   I'm not sure that these quick TATs are 
always medically necessary, but rather more of a convenience.However that 
is another discussion altogether.  That said, our institution shoots for the 
80% in 24 hours as well.


 
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Manager

Molecular Diagnostics Lab
Medical Center Boulevard  \  Winston-Salem, NC 27157
p 336.716.2109  \  f 336.716.5890  
mw...@wakehealth.edu  
 
 



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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Dawn Bugge
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:43 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time

Hello Histonet

I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around Time is for most labs.
I think a two day turn around time from the time the biopsy gets to the lab to 
the time the pathologist signs out a case is pretty fast.

Thanks for your input.
--
Dawn R Bugge
Seattle Histology
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RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time

2014-02-03 Thread Joe W. Walker, Jr.
I agree with you, Martha.  That is why we look at it from an average of all 
cases for the month.  We definitely encounter cases that are difficult and 
require more time with our pathologists.  We track the TAT for statistical 
purposes only.  The CAP (for those who are CAP accredited) has dropped this 
from their checklist for surgical cases.  It seems to only really apply to 
autopsy cases now but these has a much different TAT target.

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Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 2:06 PM
To: Dawn Bugge; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time

While I recognize the need for a quick result in some cases, I also subscribe 
to the theory that speed kills.   I'm not sure that these quick TATs are 
always medically necessary, but rather more of a convenience.However that 
is another discussion altogether.  That said, our institution shoots for the 
80% in 24 hours as well.



Martha Ward, MT (ASCP) QIHC
Manager

Molecular Diagnostics Lab
Medical Center Boulevard  \  Winston-Salem, NC 27157 p 336.716.2109  \  f 
336.716.5890 mw...@wakehealth.edu





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Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time

Hello Histonet

I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around Time is for most labs.
I think a two day turn around time from the time the biopsy gets to the lab to 
the time the pathologist signs out a case is pretty fast.

Thanks for your input.
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Seattle Histology
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Re: [Histonet] Turn Around Time

2014-02-03 Thread Rene J Buesa
Martha:
So, do you mean that you are not satisfied with the quality of your slides?
If you are, I just do not understand your concerns about a 24 h TAT!
The fundamental issue is to develop adequate protocols assuring quality as well 
as a convenient (24 h) TAT.
Just my 3 cents (after inflation!)
René J.



From: Martha Ward-Pathology mw...@wakehealth.edu
To: Dawn Bugge drbu...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time


While I recognize the need for a quick result in some cases, I also subscribe 
to the theory that speed kills.  I'm not sure that these quick TATs are 
always medically necessary, but rather more of a convenience.    However that 
is another discussion altogether.  That said, our institution shoots for the 
80% in 24 hours as well.


 
Martha Ward, MT (ASCP) QIHC
Manager

Molecular Diagnostics Lab
Medical Center Boulevard  \  Winston-Salem, NC 27157
p 336.716.2109  \  f 336.716.5890  
mw...@wakehealth.edu  
 
 



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To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time

Hello Histonet

I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around Time is for most labs.
I think a two day turn around time from the time the biopsy gets to the lab to 
the time the pathologist signs out a case is pretty fast.

Thanks for your input.
--
Dawn R Bugge
Seattle Histology
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