Re: [DISCUSSION] To be (or not to be) a TLP - that is the question

2010-04-22 Thread Edward Capriolo
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Jeff Hammerbacher ham...@cloudera.comwrote: Hive already does the work to run on multiple versions of Hadoop, and the release cycle is independent of Hadoop's. I don't see why it should remain a subproject. I'm +1 on Hive becoming a TLP. On Tue, Apr 20,

RE: [DISCUSSION] To be (or not to be) a TLP - that is the question

2010-04-22 Thread Ashish Thusoo
What is the advantage of becoming a TLP to the project itself? I have heard that it is something that apache wants, but considering that we are very comfortable on how Hive interacts with the Hadoop ecosystem as a sub project for Hadoop, there has to be some big incentive for the project to be

Re: [DISCUSSION] To be (or not to be) a TLP - that is the question

2010-04-22 Thread Dhruba Borthakur
I am definitely against moving Hive out of Hadoop. There is appreciable representation of Hive inside the Hadoop PMC and, as far as I can say, there is no additional burden on the Hadooo PMC to make Hive remain inside Hadoop. I respect Jeff/Amr's comments on their viewpoints, but I beg to differ

Re: [DISCUSSION] To be (or not to be) a TLP - that is the question

2010-04-21 Thread Jeff Hammerbacher
Hive already does the work to run on multiple versions of Hadoop, and the release cycle is independent of Hadoop's. I don't see why it should remain a subproject. I'm +1 on Hive becoming a TLP. On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Zheng Shao zsh...@gmail.com wrote: As a Hive committer, I don't feel

Re: [DISCUSSION] To be (or not to be) a TLP - that is the question

2010-04-20 Thread Zheng Shao
As a Hive committer, I don't feel the benefit we get from becoming a TLP is big enough (compared with the cost) to make Hive a TLP. From Chris's comment I see that the cost is not that big, but I still wonder what benefit we will get from that. Also I didn't get the idea of the joke (In fact, one

[DISCUSSION] To be (or not to be) a TLP - that is the question

2010-04-19 Thread Ashish Thusoo
Hi Folks, Recently Apache Board asked the Hadoop PMC if some sub projects can become top level projects. In the opinion of the board, big umbrella projects make it difficult to monitor the health of the communities within the sub projects. If Hive does become a TLP, then we would have to elect