The test your model is failing is one that basically checks for minimum thickness. If any single convex piece of your model is too thin, then the tool is guessing that it's actually 2-dimensional and won't compile it. If you run with -fullcollide it should ignore that and compile it anyway. The orange box version of studiomdl has a few more commands to let you script this behavior but generally if you're getting the warning then you're doing something that will cause unintentional behavior in the physics system (like bad performance or penetration problems) so it's trying to keep you from doing that unless you know that will happen but you're ok with it.
Anyway, my guess given your description is that there are some verts on the model getting shared that you didn't intend to be shared. So if you have some verts exactly overlapping among the various boxes move them a little so they're not exactly the same position. Otherwise you should be able to build with -fullcollide and look at the convex chunks and see what it's including as an individual convex element and figure it out that way. Jay -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Minh Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:27 AM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Collision Model never compile correctly -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] What I've found from working with smoothing groups is the following: - Make sure that you dont have any models that are less than 2 units thick/wide/tall. (for example, i had a model for a table, and the table was 1 inch thick... The smoothing group wouldn't compile properly and gave me the same errors you are getting. I had to scale up the table physics model to get it to properly compile). So if your pole is too thin, you may want to try thickening the physics model a bit (you dont have to thicken the actual model itself, just the physisc model). The model and the phys model won't be exactly in synch (ie. the phys model will be a bit larger than the actual model) but when you're dealing with models that thin, it is hardly noticable when the player interacts with it. Try assigning each of your 5 boxes to a different smoothing group. If that doesnt work, you can send me your model files and I can check it out for you. I have a lot of experience compiling models of various shapes/sizes and I have run into (and fixed) these errors several times. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Donovan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:12 AM Subject: [hlcoders] Collision Model never compile correctly -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi all, Ive been having allot of problems with some simple model compiling trying to get my collision models to work correctly. I have a basic model for my collision made up of 5 boxes(lowest possible polys 26verts 12 faces) all attached to one bone. They all have smoothing groups on 1 and the all share the same material channel. If I use 2 simple boxes for the model then that seems to work but with more than this its always giving me this error Working on "ukraine_pole.qc" SMD MODEL ukraine_pole_ref.smd SMD MODEL ukraine_pole_idle.smd SMD MODEL ukraine_pole_phy.smd WARNING: Bad collision model, check your smoothing groups!!! WARNING: Truncating model!!!! WARNING: ukraine_pole_phy.smd has bad smoothing groups Model has 1 convex sub-parts Collision model completed. Thing is ive checked and re checked that the smoothing groups are ok (set to 1), but it never works. Ive been working with 3dsmax7 mostly so I tried switching to edsmax9 to see if the new exporter worked any differnt but still the same problem. Ive gone over anything I could see on the web and there is nothing new there that I didnt know about before. Qc file follows just to show I can write one..I have also tried full collide..and that dont work either....What the hell is going on with this? // Output .MDL $modelname ukraine_pole/ukraine_pole.mdl // Directory of .BMP $cdmaterials models/ukraine_pole $staticprop $scale 1.0 // whole body $body studio "ukraine_pole_ref" // sequences: all sequences are in $cd $sequence idle "ukraine_pole_idle" loop fps 15 $collisionmodel "ukraine_pole_phy.smd" { // Mass in kilograms $Mass 100 $concave } _________________________________________________________________ New music from the Rogue Traders - listen now! http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=832&re ferral=hotmailtaglineOct07&URL=http://music.ninemsn.com.au/roguetraders -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
