[hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Aerolite Gaming
The amount of hackers is rising bigtime, ones with name change scripts 
and ones that stop the status command from working, basically making 
banning them complicated. Since it's gone F2P people can just make a new 
account, i've noticed this because they Haven't set up their steam 
profile yet. Speedhackers + Aimbotters etc coming in every day.


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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread AnAkIn .
Nothing new. Valve doesn't care.

2012/3/2 Aerolite Gaming ad...@aerolitegaming.co.uk:
 The amount of hackers is rising bigtime, ones with name change scripts and
 ones that stop the status command from working, basically making banning
 them complicated. Since it's gone F2P people can just make a new account,
 i've noticed this because they Haven't set up their steam profile yet.
 Speedhackers + Aimbotters etc coming in every day.

 Anyone else faced with this?

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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Alexander Z
Yep.
IP bans don't do shit in most cases either because they have dynamic IPs.
IMO the VAC system should be adjusted to TF2 so that it dispenses bans
instantly upon detecting cheating, not after a few months.

On 2 March 2012 23:52, Aerolite Gaming ad...@aerolitegaming.co.uk wrote:

 The amount of hackers is rising bigtime, ones with name change scripts and
 ones that stop the status command from working, basically making banning
 them complicated. Since it's gone F2P people can just make a new account,
 i've noticed this because they Haven't set up their steam profile yet.
 Speedhackers + Aimbotters etc coming in every day.

 Anyone else faced with this?

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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Russell Smith
My server hasn't had any incidents that I'm aware of since I started 
using SourceMod Anti-Cheat a couple months back.  If you're not running 
that you can try it out.  Also check out Powerlord's plugin that will 
kick/ban anyone with the fast name change scripts:

http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=161320

On 3/2/2012 2:52 PM, Aerolite Gaming wrote:
The amount of hackers is rising bigtime, ones with name change scripts 
and ones that stop the status command from working, basically making 
banning them complicated. Since it's gone F2P people can just make a 
new account, i've noticed this because they Haven't set up their 
steam profile yet. Speedhackers + Aimbotters etc coming in every day.


Anyone else faced with this?

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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread AnAkIn .
It wouldn't change the fact that VAC sucks and it can take them like 6
months to add them one of the most known public cheats.

2012/3/2 Alexander Z spacebur...@gmail.com:
 Yep.
 IP bans don't do shit in most cases either because they have dynamic IPs.
 IMO the VAC system should be adjusted to TF2 so that it dispenses bans
 instantly upon detecting cheating, not after a few months.

 On 2 March 2012 23:52, Aerolite Gaming ad...@aerolitegaming.co.uk wrote:

 The amount of hackers is rising bigtime, ones with name change scripts and
 ones that stop the status command from working, basically making banning
 them complicated. Since it's gone F2P people can just make a new account,
 i've noticed this because they Haven't set up their steam profile yet.
 Speedhackers + Aimbotters etc coming in every day.

 Anyone else faced with this?

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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Adrian iFeaR
OMFG , STOP CREATING THIS FUCKING UNLESS MAILS.

2012/3/3 Russell Smith ve...@tinylittlerobots.us:
 My server hasn't had any incidents that I'm aware of since I started using
 SourceMod Anti-Cheat a couple months back.  If you're not running that you
 can try it out.  Also check out Powerlord's plugin that will kick/ban anyone
 with the fast name change scripts:
 http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=161320


 On 3/2/2012 2:52 PM, Aerolite Gaming wrote:

 The amount of hackers is rising bigtime, ones with name change scripts and
 ones that stop the status command from working, basically making banning
 them complicated. Since it's gone F2P people can just make a new account,
 i've noticed this because they Haven't set up their steam profile yet.
 Speedhackers + Aimbotters etc coming in every day.

 Anyone else faced with this?

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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Ross Bemrose
SMAC has its own version of the fast name change kicker, so you 
shouldn't need mine as well.


On 3/2/2012 5:54 PM, Russell Smith wrote:
My server hasn't had any incidents that I'm aware of since I started 
using SourceMod Anti-Cheat a couple months back.  If you're not 
running that you can try it out.  Also check out Powerlord's plugin 
that will kick/ban anyone with the fast name change scripts:

http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=161320

On 3/2/2012 2:52 PM, Aerolite Gaming wrote:
The amount of hackers is rising bigtime, ones with name change 
scripts and ones that stop the status command from working, basically 
making banning them complicated. Since it's gone F2P people can just 
make a new account, i've noticed this because they Haven't set up 
their steam profile yet. Speedhackers + Aimbotters etc coming in 
every day.


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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Russell Smith

Oh?  Good to know.  Thanks.

On 3/2/2012 2:56 PM, Ross Bemrose wrote:
SMAC has its own version of the fast name change kicker, so you 
shouldn't need mine as well.




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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread DontWannaName!
I thought something similar was already included in smac.

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Mar 2, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Russell Smith ve...@tinylittlerobots.us wrote:

 My server hasn't had any incidents that I'm aware of since I started using 
 SourceMod Anti-Cheat a couple months back.  If you're not running that you 
 can try it out.  Also check out Powerlord's plugin that will kick/ban anyone 
 with the fast name change scripts:
 http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=161320
 
 On 3/2/2012 2:52 PM, Aerolite Gaming wrote:
 The amount of hackers is rising bigtime, ones with name change scripts and 
 ones that stop the status command from working, basically making banning 
 them complicated. Since it's gone F2P people can just make a new account, 
 i've noticed this because they Haven't set up their steam profile yet. 
 Speedhackers + Aimbotters etc coming in every day.
 
 Anyone else faced with this?
 
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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Aerolite Gaming
Cheers, I will install SMAC however the Valve tf servers are still gonna 
face these problems.


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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread AnAkIn .
SMAC and other plugins won't detect all cheaters. Many cheat coders
are testing their cheats against SMAC and change their code to remain
undetectable.

2012/3/2 Russell Smith ve...@tinylittlerobots.us:
 Oh?  Good to know.  Thanks.


 On 3/2/2012 2:56 PM, Ross Bemrose wrote:

 SMAC has its own version of the fast name change kicker, so you shouldn't
 need mine as well.


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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Russell Smith

True.  Nothing is 100%, but it's better than only relying on VAC.

On 3/2/2012 2:59 PM, AnAkIn . wrote:

SMAC and other plugins won't detect all cheaters. Many cheat coders
are testing their cheats against SMAC and change their code to remain
undetectable.


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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread AnAkIn .
DBlocker can actually detect some hacks that VAC  SMAC can't detect.

http://dblocker.didrole.com/

2012/3/3 Russell Smith ve...@tinylittlerobots.us:
 True.  Nothing is 100%, but it's better than only relying on VAC.


 On 3/2/2012 2:59 PM, AnAkIn . wrote:

 SMAC and other plugins won't detect all cheaters. Many cheat coders
 are testing their cheats against SMAC and change their code to remain
 undetectable.


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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread DontWannaName!
True and unfortunate but the general detections are hard to get around due to 
the number of ways to actually do something. Such as aim bot, it detects the 
degrees in change, most aimbots jump from one player to another and there's not 
many ways to do that... Unless they change their aimbot to be less suspicious 
making it less useful.

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Mar 2, 2012, at 2:59 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote:

 SMAC and other plugins won't detect all cheaters. Many cheat coders
 are testing their cheats against SMAC and change their code to remain
 undetectable.
 
 2012/3/2 Russell Smith ve...@tinylittlerobots.us:
 Oh?  Good to know.  Thanks.
 
 
 On 3/2/2012 2:56 PM, Ross Bemrose wrote:
 
 SMAC has its own version of the fast name change kicker, so you shouldn't
 need mine as well.
 
 
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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Cameron Munroe
Can you intigrate this with sourceban.
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DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.com wrote:

True and unfortunate but the general detections are hard to get around due to 
the number of ways to actually do something. Such as aim bot, it detects the 
degrees in change, most aimbots jump from one player to another and there's not 
many ways to do that... Unless they change their aimbot to be less suspicious 
making it less useful.

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Mar 2, 2012, at 2:59 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote:

 SMAC and other plugins won't detect all cheaters. Many cheat coders
 are testing their cheats against SMAC and change their code to remain
 undetectable.
 
 2012/3/2 Russell Smith ve...@tinylittlerobots.us:
 Oh? Good to know. Thanks.
 
 
 On 3/2/2012 2:56 PM, Ross Bemrose wrote:
 
 SMAC has its own version of the fast name change kicker, so you shouldn't
 need mine as well.
 
 
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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Russell Smith

Yes.  SMAC integrates with SourceBan.

On 3/2/2012 3:21 PM, Cameron Munroe wrote:

Can you intigrate this with sourceban.



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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Rob Liu
Just the price of the game going free to play.  Nothing we can do about it.

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:05 PM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.comwrote:

 True and unfortunate but the general detections are hard to get around due
 to the number of ways to actually do something. Such as aim bot, it detects
 the degrees in change, most aimbots jump from one player to another and
 there's not many ways to do that... Unless they change their aimbot to be
 less suspicious making it less useful.

 Sent from my iPhone 4

 On Mar 2, 2012, at 2:59 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote:

  SMAC and other plugins won't detect all cheaters. Many cheat coders
  are testing their cheats against SMAC and change their code to remain
  undetectable.
 
  2012/3/2 Russell Smith ve...@tinylittlerobots.us:
  Oh?  Good to know.  Thanks.
 
 
  On 3/2/2012 2:56 PM, Ross Bemrose wrote:
 
  SMAC has its own version of the fast name change kicker, so you
 shouldn't
  need mine as well.
 
 
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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Cameron Munroe
Now if it only would start a demo and then ban them...
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Russell Smith ve...@tinylittlerobots.us wrote:

Yes. SMAC integrates with SourceBan.

On 3/2/2012 3:21 PM, Cameron Munroe wrote:
 Can you intigrate this with sourceban.


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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Russell Smith
If you can put up with the excessive memory leaks then you can use 
SourceTV on autorecord.  Then just reference the time of the ban with 
the time of the recorded demo and you have yourself a demo of the 
supposed cheater.


On 3/2/2012 3:32 PM, Cameron Munroe wrote:

Now if it only would start a demo and then ban them...
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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
One options is to just not allow f2p accounts. Or make them a lot more
vulnerable to votekicks/votebans. I'm considering making it so it only
takes half as many votes against f2p to take action.

On Mar 2, 2012 6:34 PM, Russell Smith ve...@tinylittlerobots.us wrote:

If you can put up with the excessive memory leaks then you can use SourceTV
on autorecord.  Then just reference the time of the ban with the time of
the recorded demo and you have yourself a demo of the supposed cheater.



On 3/2/2012 3:32 PM, Cameron Munroe wrote:

 Now if it only would start a demo and then ban them...
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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Cameron Munroe
That is like saying I will not sell my product to greens. It is not 
effective and can do way more harm then good. You might just want to 
beef up your security with sourcemod and some plugins.


On 3/2/2012 7:19 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote:


One options is to just not allow f2p accounts. Or make them a lot more 
vulnerable to votekicks/votebans. I'm considering making it so it only 
takes half as many votes against f2p to take action.


On Mar 2, 2012 6:34 PM, Russell Smith ve...@tinylittlerobots.us 
mailto:ve...@tinylittlerobots.us wrote:


If you can put up with the excessive memory leaks then you can use 
SourceTV on autorecord.  Then just reference the time of the ban with 
the time of the recorded demo and you have yourself a demo of the 
supposed cheater.




On 3/2/2012 3:32 PM, Cameron Munroe wrote:

 Now if it only would start a demo and then ban them...

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Re: [hlds] Hackers on the rise

2012-03-02 Thread Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald
That doesn't do much good for things like aimbots.

 

I personally don't like the idea of preventing them from joining, but simply
taking away things that they might be able to abuse. My dodgeball servers
for example doesn't allow f2p to use, or hear anyone on voice comm. Too many
unbannables just spewing mic spam all day.

 

- Spencer.

 

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That is like saying I will not sell my product to greens. It is not
effective and can do way more harm then good. You might just want to beef up
your security with sourcemod and some plugins.

On 3/2/2012 7:19 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: 

One options is to just not allow f2p accounts. Or make them a lot more
vulnerable to votekicks/votebans. I'm considering making it so it only takes
half as many votes against f2p to take action. 

On Mar 2, 2012 6:34 PM, Russell Smith ve...@tinylittlerobots.us wrote:

If you can put up with the excessive memory leaks then you can use SourceTV
on autorecord.  Then just reference the time of the ban with the time of the
recorded demo and you have yourself a demo of the supposed cheater. 



On 3/2/2012 3:32 PM, Cameron Munroe wrote:

 Now if it only would start a demo and then ban them...

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