Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot
Cheating is typically defined as violating the rules of the game dishonestly. Valve's intention with the unlockables is to provide alternatives that would be advantageous over the original weapons in certain situations and detrimental in others. To use a MMO term, they are side-grades. In my personal opinion, achievement farmers are not gaining an unfair advantage over other players by accessing their unlockable side-grades more quickly than regular players. Therefore they aren't cheating. What I hate about achievement farmers is when they try to farm achievements in a regular pub game. I feel that they sometimes ruin the game play experience for everyone else in the server. I believe that achievement farming servers are sort of a good thing, as they remove a lot of the achievement farmers from the regular pub servers. I'd much rather have achievement farming servers than no achievement farming servers with a bunch of farmers in a pub game. It is the lesser of two evils, I suppose. However, what you do with your servers is your own business, and I have no right to directly comment on how you should be running them or what you should be doing with them. You're free to ban whoever you want for whatever reason. Just offering my own two cents on the whole overly issue. Apologies to the list, I'm too lazy to find what irc channel you are residing in to discuss it there. Patrick On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Clyde cide thedrunkenbraw...@gmail.com wrote: BTW the unlocker whatever the fuck that is, is as lame as your plugin. Some how though your just a teeny bit more lame ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Suggestion for new scout update (public servers owners)
The way I see it, the more people on farm servers means less of these farmers in regular servers trying to farm. Those farmers could potentially hurt the gameplay experience for the people in your server who are just trying to play the game. Which, in my opinion, is far far worse. Patrick On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Alex alexandrualexa...@gmail.com wrote: yeah, thats pwnage 2009/2/3 Arg! chillic...@gmail.com pwned On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Neil Voutt mr.neosty...@gmail.com wrote: You care enough to set up a server JUST to ban people. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:58 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Maybe, but I don't respect or care about farmers. On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 19:54 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: Thats kinda mean lol On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Personally I setup a honeypot server running one of the achievement box maps that lets people connect for about 5 minutes, then I have a SourceMod plugin auto ban them. Fun times to be had by all. On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 02:31 +0200, Alex wrote: Try to put a class limit, so there won't be a farming server ! Also Valve: You said that you will ban people which are farming, am i right ? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Neil Voutt http://www.neilvoutt.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 update
December 22nd and August 24th are considered the two Team Fortress birthday days. Birthday mode is enabled on these days automagically. Birthday mode has been around since the TFC and QWTF days as well. On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's tf's birthday and it forces it on. Like in TFC. August 23/24th? - voogru. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of -xL-Trinidad Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:37 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 update lol, i have that too on two serververs. didnt turn on birthdaymode, but its on and dont want to switch off. ist it a bug or a feature? - Original Message - From: steve grout [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 1:19 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 update um.. need some help please. i cannot turn birthday mode stuff off even though tf_birthday is set to 0 -xL-Trinidad wrote: I have this about every 20 hours since the update . Its german, but i think u know what its about. Ereignistyp: Informationen Ereignisquelle: Application Popup Ereigniskategorie: Keine Ereigniskennung: 26 Datum: 23.08.2008 Zeit: 01:18:13 Beschreibung: Anwendungspopup: srcds.exe - Fehler in Anwendung: Die Anweisung in 0x01151925 verweist auf Speicher in 0x13862ae0. Der Vorgang read konnte nicht auf dem Speicher durchgeführt werden. Ereignistyp: Informationen Ereignisquelle: Application Popup Ereigniskategorie: Keine Ereigniskennung: 26 Datum: 23.08.2008 Zeit: 20:59:58 Beschreibung: Anwendungspopup: srcds.exe - Fehler in Anwendung: Die Anweisung in 0x01151954 verweist auf Speicher in 0x28a518d0. Der Vorgang read konnte nicht auf dem Speicher durchgeführt werden. Cause of using qyqstarter i didnot notice the server was down, but its still annoying. Btw I have sourcemod running. Anyone else having trouble? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update
There appears to be a spelling mistake on http://www.steampowered.com/tf2/heavy/images/06_sandvich.jpg @Cheese and dairy group +20 HEATLH Is this intended? On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Jonah Hirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good! This is my reason for getting at least 10 achievements. The other two didn't do it for me, and I never use the HWG shotgun anyway. I wonder what the taunt will be. :P bl4nkeh wrote: Sandvich! http://www.steampowered.com/tf2/heavy/sandvich.htm Fudgstu wrote: Thank you Jason for giving us an idea of the approx. time Blood, I think he means the update will be released hopefully at 2:30pm PDT. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Blood Letter [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'm in a meeting from 2-3. Excellent. I will inform my subordinates that they are now responsible. (Or, did he mean he would post with an update on timing at 2:30?) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:37:39 + Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update Well since that is only 3 hours away are you going to put the 6th thing on the Heavy Update website so we can have some preview of it to keep us drooling. -VM Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:31:22 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update And it is going to happen today. Hopefully around 2:30 PM PDT. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keeper Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:51 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update There have been many posts by Alfred, Mike, Jason, and Eric. Jason usually tells us that it's going to happen soon, so when you see his post you know you have a couple of hours at most to finish your sammich. No worries :) Keeper -Original Message- From: Leonard L. Church [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:46 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update Just curious.. Has anyone from Valve EVER posted to this list except to tell us an update is coming? I mean, has there ever been any 2 way communication from them to us? I don't recall ever seeing it if so. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Be the filmmaker you always wanted to be—learn how to burn a DVD with Windows(R). http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588797/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released
It seems that a bunch of players on the same team are crashing at random times on arena mode. It doesn't seem to be tied to a specific map. It also seems to happen right near the start of a round, as a clump of players will just halt in their tracks and crash while leaving the spawn. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So arena has a 16 or an 18 player limit ? On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just load the map. im having a problem after playing an arena map and not being able to change the server back to a 24 player server its stuck at 18. Craig Collinson wrote: is there a cvar to start areana mode or do you just simply load one of the maps for it to start ? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released
For those who cannot change their hostname on arena servers: When the server is changed to an arena map, the server will execute the config_arena.cfg file located in the cfg directory of the server. In there is where the hostname is being changed. Patrick On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:34 PM, -xL-Trinidad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do pluins have efect on hlds update tool? - Original Message - From: Cc2iscooL [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released Remove all plugins. -xL-Trinidad wrote: update dont start. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update
It's not a command line option, afaik. The option to use arena mode is probably within each map itself, or perhaps changing the map to an arena_ map causes the server to switch to arena mode and use the arena mapcycle as well as the arena_config.cfg Patrick On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Flubber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clearly there must be a command line option to call a specific one for a server, can't you valve release all info for once? 2008/8/20 chillicane [EMAIL PROTECTED] theres a new config file in cfg called config_arena.cfg this sets the server name to that. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:43 AM, steve grout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wtf cant change server name away from Team Fortress 2 Arena Server Spencer wrote: They just corrected it.. lmao On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Patrick O [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There appears to be a spelling mistake on http://www.steampowered.com/tf2/heavy/images/06_sandvich.jpg @Cheese and dairy group +20 HEATLH Is this intended? On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Jonah Hirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good! This is my reason for getting at least 10 achievements. The other two didn't do it for me, and I never use the HWG shotgun anyway. I wonder what the taunt will be. :P bl4nkeh wrote: Sandvich! http://www.steampowered.com/tf2/heavy/sandvich.htm Fudgstu wrote: Thank you Jason for giving us an idea of the approx. time Blood, I think he means the update will be released hopefully at 2:30pm PDT. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Blood Letter [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'm in a meeting from 2-3. Excellent. I will inform my subordinates that they are now responsible. (Or, did he mean he would post with an update on timing at 2:30?) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:37:39 + Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update Well since that is only 3 hours away are you going to put the 6th thing on the Heavy Update website so we can have some preview of it to keep us drooling. -VM Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:31:22 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update And it is going to happen today. Hopefully around 2:30 PM PDT. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keeper Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:51 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update There have been many posts by Alfred, Mike, Jason, and Eric. Jason usually tells us that it's going to happen soon, so when you see his post you know you have a couple of hours at most to finish your sammich. No worries :) Keeper -Original Message- From: Leonard L. Church [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:46 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update Just curious.. Has anyone from Valve EVER posted to this list except to tell us an update is coming? I mean, has there ever been any 2 way communication from them to us? I don't recall ever seeing it if so. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Be the filmmaker you always wanted to be—learn how to burn a DVD with Windows(R). http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588797/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com
Re: [hlds] Is this legal?
Legal? Probably. Ethical? No way. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 5:49 PM, tgnwells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Umm, where exactly did it say they were promoting theft of games? Kevin Ottalini wrote: nice group of servers to block from the master server list. Since they are promoting theft of games as well this can be reported to the hosting abuse contact too. - Original Message - From: Chris Lassiter To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:41 PM Subject: [hlds] Is this legal? http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=veeuq8.jpg ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Is this legal?
It's obviously against league rules. I was speaking about the laws in place to control society. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 7:55 PM, chillicane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but what leauge would allow the use of one of these servers in a match! Im sure most professional leauges, CEVO etc would be aware of this already, if not because of this thread! It's easy enough to cheat if you have the tools, but to do it without being noticed by the other team??? On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Patrick O [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Legal? Probably. Ethical? No way. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 5:49 PM, tgnwells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Umm, where exactly did it say they were promoting theft of games? Kevin Ottalini wrote: nice group of servers to block from the master server list. Since they are promoting theft of games as well this can be reported to the hosting abuse contact too. - Original Message - From: Chris Lassiter To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:41 PM Subject: [hlds] Is this legal? http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=veeuq8.jpg ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Chillidog Systems - Re-inventing the wheel for the sake of all humanity! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
