Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available

2009-11-20 Thread Blood Letter

Yup.  Can you try opening the console and doing the ol' connect IP:port ?

Try with your lan IP (should fail), then try with your wan IP (might work).

I've noticed that when I simply click on the server from my steam group list, 
it tries to connect via the lan ip (and fails).
If I try to connect to an existing lobby, it works.  Probably because 
connecting to a lobby results in feeding a connect ip:port statement with the 
wan ip, not the lan ip.

Once this is figured out / patched / whatever, I need to figure out how to get 
the search key working with it.
I don't like having to join the server (when I can) and then call a vote / rcon 
to switch game type, map, and difficulty.
I'd much rather prefer to join/create a lobby, let it fill up, and throw the 
search key in to get to my server.  (Valve also needs to fix the bug where youc 
an't bring up the console while in the lobby).

When I try this now, all I get lots of waiting then bam, I'm running a local 
server.  There's no popup message asking if you would like to run a local 
server (like there was in L4D).



 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:40:47 +0800
 From: clontar...@iinet.net.au
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available
 
 The issue seems to have something to do with lobby reservation. I don't 
 know if you see this too, but if you create a lobby on the NAT side of 
 things, the server will complain about bogus payload data, and then show 
 the reservation. I can confirm that reserving the lobby from outside the 
 NAT seems to be fine.
 
 It's almost as if the NAT client reserves the lobby, then the server 
 accepts, then ignores it...
 
 Blood Letter wrote:
  Looks like having someone else join the server (from outside the lan) works 
  fine.
  Then I can join just fine.
 
  Weird...
 

  From: bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.com
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:51:58 -0800
  Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available
 
 
  Really?  No one else has this issue?
 
  Can someone with a working config behind a nat post their server.cfg and 
  command line?
 
  
  From: bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.com
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:26:47 -0800
  Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available
 
 
  Zero problems when running with sv_lan 1.
 

  Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:05:37 +0800
  From: clontar...@iinet.net.au
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available
 
  Yes, on a Linux server. Are you running it behind a NAT firewall? We 
  were told that using mm_dedicated_force_servers public|private would 
  fix this, but it doesn't. Test this for me, if you start with +sv_lan 1 
  does it then work flawlessly?
 
  Blood Letter wrote:
  
  Anyone getting this?
 
  Windows.
 
  --command line--
  srcds.exe -console -game left4dead2 -maxplayers 8 -ip 192.168.1.11 
  -port 27015 -nohltv +sv_lan 0 +map c1m1_hotel
 
  --server.cfg--
  hostname Love Me Sexy
  rcon_password 
  password
  sv_steamgroup 12345
  sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
  sv_search_key searchkey
 
  Forwarding pots 27000-27015 to 192.168.1.11 .
 
  ??

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Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available

2009-11-20 Thread David Graham
I find I have to use +mm_force_dedicated_server and +sv_search_key, once
I've done that I can create a lobby and then invite friends and then it will
connect to my restricted server, I have it set to only allow lobby
connections.

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Blood Letter bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.comwrote:


 Yup.  Can you try opening the console and doing the ol' connect IP:port ?

 Try with your lan IP (should fail), then try with your wan IP (might work).

 I've noticed that when I simply click on the server from my steam group
 list, it tries to connect via the lan ip (and fails).
 If I try to connect to an existing lobby, it works.  Probably because
 connecting to a lobby results in feeding a connect ip:port statement with
 the wan ip, not the lan ip.

 Once this is figured out / patched / whatever, I need to figure out how to
 get the search key working with it.
 I don't like having to join the server (when I can) and then call a vote /
 rcon to switch game type, map, and difficulty.
 I'd much rather prefer to join/create a lobby, let it fill up, and throw
 the search key in to get to my server.  (Valve also needs to fix the bug
 where youc an't bring up the console while in the lobby).

 When I try this now, all I get lots of waiting then bam, I'm running a
 local server.  There's no popup message asking if you would like to run a
 local server (like there was in L4D).



  Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:40:47 +0800
  From: clontar...@iinet.net.au
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available
 
  The issue seems to have something to do with lobby reservation. I don't
  know if you see this too, but if you create a lobby on the NAT side of
  things, the server will complain about bogus payload data, and then show
  the reservation. I can confirm that reserving the lobby from outside the
  NAT seems to be fine.
 
  It's almost as if the NAT client reserves the lobby, then the server
  accepts, then ignores it...
 
  Blood Letter wrote:
   Looks like having someone else join the server (from outside the lan)
 works fine.
   Then I can join just fine.
  
   Weird...
  
  
   From: bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.com
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:51:58 -0800
   Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available
  
  
   Really?  No one else has this issue?
  
   Can someone with a working config behind a nat post their server.cfg
 and command line?
  
  
   From: bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.com
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:26:47 -0800
   Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available
  
  
   Zero problems when running with sv_lan 1.
  
  
   Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:05:37 +0800
   From: clontar...@iinet.net.au
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available
  
   Yes, on a Linux server. Are you running it behind a NAT firewall? We
   were told that using mm_dedicated_force_servers public|private
 would
   fix this, but it doesn't. Test this for me, if you start with
 +sv_lan 1
   does it then work flawlessly?
  
   Blood Letter wrote:
  
   Anyone getting this?
  
   Windows.
  
   --command line--
   srcds.exe -console -game left4dead2 -maxplayers 8 -ip 192.168.1.11
 -port 27015 -nohltv +sv_lan 0 +map c1m1_hotel
  
   --server.cfg--
   hostname Love Me Sexy
   rcon_password 
   password
   sv_steamgroup 12345
   sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
   sv_search_key searchkey
  
   Forwarding pots 27000-27015 to 192.168.1.11 .
  
   ??
  
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Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available

2009-11-20 Thread Shane Arnold
Unfortunately that's not the issue, as the servers are receiving the 
lobby reservations and accepting them fine. The problem is when on a NAT 
network, somewhere in the lobby reservation part of things it forgets 
which client reserved the lobby, and whenever the reserving client tries 
to connect, it get's rejected.

Plus it is still impossible to connect to a server through NAT loopback. 
I shouldn't need to DMZ my box if I have my ports forwarded.

David Graham wrote:
 I find I have to use +mm_force_dedicated_server and +sv_search_key, once
 I've done that I can create a lobby and then invite friends and then it will
 connect to my restricted server, I have it set to only allow lobby
 connections.

 On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Blood Letter 
 bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.comwrote:

   
 Yup.  Can you try opening the console and doing the ol' connect IP:port ?

 Try with your lan IP (should fail), then try with your wan IP (might work).

 I've noticed that when I simply click on the server from my steam group
 list, it tries to connect via the lan ip (and fails).
 If I try to connect to an existing lobby, it works.  Probably because
 connecting to a lobby results in feeding a connect ip:port statement with
 the wan ip, not the lan ip.

 Once this is figured out / patched / whatever, I need to figure out how to
 get the search key working with it.
 I don't like having to join the server (when I can) and then call a vote /
 rcon to switch game type, map, and difficulty.
 I'd much rather prefer to join/create a lobby, let it fill up, and throw
 the search key in to get to my server.  (Valve also needs to fix the bug
 where youc an't bring up the console while in the lobby).

 When I try this now, all I get lots of waiting then bam, I'm running a
 local server.  There's no popup message asking if you would like to run a
 local server (like there was in L4D).



 
 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:40:47 +0800
 From: clontar...@iinet.net.au
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available

 The issue seems to have something to do with lobby reservation. I don't
 know if you see this too, but if you create a lobby on the NAT side of
 things, the server will complain about bogus payload data, and then show
 the reservation. I can confirm that reserving the lobby from outside the
 NAT seems to be fine.

 It's almost as if the NAT client reserves the lobby, then the server
 accepts, then ignores it...

 Blood Letter wrote:
   
 Looks like having someone else join the server (from outside the lan)
 
 works fine.
 
 Then I can join just fine.

 Weird...


 
 From: bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.com
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:51:58 -0800
 Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available


 Really?  No one else has this issue?

 Can someone with a working config behind a nat post their server.cfg
   
 and command line?
 
   
 From: bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.com
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:26:47 -0800
 Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available


 Zero problems when running with sv_lan 1.


 
 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:05:37 +0800
 From: clontar...@iinet.net.au
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available

 Yes, on a Linux server. Are you running it behind a NAT firewall? We
 were told that using mm_dedicated_force_servers public|private
   
 would
 
 fix this, but it doesn't. Test this for me, if you start with
   
 +sv_lan 1
 
 does it then work flawlessly?

 Blood Letter wrote:

   
 Anyone getting this?

 Windows.

 --command line--
 srcds.exe -console -game left4dead2 -maxplayers 8 -ip 192.168.1.11
 
 -port 27015 -nohltv +sv_lan 0 +map c1m1_hotel
 
 --server.cfg--
 hostname Love Me Sexy
 rcon_password 
 password
 sv_steamgroup 12345
 sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
 sv_search_key searchkey

 Forwarding pots 27000-27015 to 192.168.1.11 .

 ??

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Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available

2009-11-19 Thread Blood Letter

Really?  No one else has this issue?

Can someone with a working config behind a nat post their server.cfg and 
command line?

 From: bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.com
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:26:47 -0800
 Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available
 
 
 Zero problems when running with sv_lan 1.
 
  Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:05:37 +0800
  From: clontar...@iinet.net.au
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available
  
  Yes, on a Linux server. Are you running it behind a NAT firewall? We 
  were told that using mm_dedicated_force_servers public|private would 
  fix this, but it doesn't. Test this for me, if you start with +sv_lan 1 
  does it then work flawlessly?
  
  Blood Letter wrote:
   Anyone getting this?
  
   Windows.
  
   --command line--
   srcds.exe -console -game left4dead2 -maxplayers 8 -ip 192.168.1.11 -port 
   27015 -nohltv +sv_lan 0 +map c1m1_hotel
  
   --server.cfg--
   hostname Love Me Sexy
   rcon_password 
   password
   sv_steamgroup 12345
   sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
   sv_search_key searchkey
  
   Forwarding pots 27000-27015 to 192.168.1.11 .
  
   ??
   
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Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available

2009-11-19 Thread Blood Letter

Looks like having someone else join the server (from outside the lan) works 
fine.
Then I can join just fine.

Weird...

 From: bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.com
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:51:58 -0800
 Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available
 
 
 Really?  No one else has this issue?
 
 Can someone with a working config behind a nat post their server.cfg and 
 command line?
 
  From: bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.com
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:26:47 -0800
  Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available
  
  
  Zero problems when running with sv_lan 1.
  
   Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:05:37 +0800
   From: clontar...@iinet.net.au
   To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available
   
   Yes, on a Linux server. Are you running it behind a NAT firewall? We 
   were told that using mm_dedicated_force_servers public|private would 
   fix this, but it doesn't. Test this for me, if you start with +sv_lan 1 
   does it then work flawlessly?
   
   Blood Letter wrote:
Anyone getting this?
   
Windows.
   
--command line--
srcds.exe -console -game left4dead2 -maxplayers 8 -ip 192.168.1.11 
-port 27015 -nohltv +sv_lan 0 +map c1m1_hotel
   
--server.cfg--
hostname Love Me Sexy
rcon_password 
password
sv_steamgroup 12345
sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
sv_search_key searchkey
   
Forwarding pots 27000-27015 to 192.168.1.11 .
   
??
  
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Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available

2009-11-19 Thread Shane Arnold
The issue seems to have something to do with lobby reservation. I don't 
know if you see this too, but if you create a lobby on the NAT side of 
things, the server will complain about bogus payload data, and then show 
the reservation. I can confirm that reserving the lobby from outside the 
NAT seems to be fine.

It's almost as if the NAT client reserves the lobby, then the server 
accepts, then ignores it...

Blood Letter wrote:
 Looks like having someone else join the server (from outside the lan) works 
 fine.
 Then I can join just fine.

 Weird...

   
 From: bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.com
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:51:58 -0800
 Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available


 Really?  No one else has this issue?

 Can someone with a working config behind a nat post their server.cfg and 
 command line?

 
 From: bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.com
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:26:47 -0800
 Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available


 Zero problems when running with sv_lan 1.

   
 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:05:37 +0800
 From: clontar...@iinet.net.au
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available

 Yes, on a Linux server. Are you running it behind a NAT firewall? We 
 were told that using mm_dedicated_force_servers public|private would 
 fix this, but it doesn't. Test this for me, if you start with +sv_lan 1 
 does it then work flawlessly?

 Blood Letter wrote:
 
 Anyone getting this?

 Windows.

 --command line--
 srcds.exe -console -game left4dead2 -maxplayers 8 -ip 192.168.1.11 -port 
 27015 -nohltv +sv_lan 0 +map c1m1_hotel

 --server.cfg--
 hostname Love Me Sexy
 rcon_password 
 password
 sv_steamgroup 12345
 sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
 sv_search_key searchkey

 Forwarding pots 27000-27015 to 192.168.1.11 .

 ??
 
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[hlds] The Session is No Longer Available

2009-11-18 Thread Blood Letter

Anyone getting this?

Windows.

--command line--
srcds.exe -console -game left4dead2 -maxplayers 8 -ip 192.168.1.11 -port 27015 
-nohltv +sv_lan 0 +map c1m1_hotel

--server.cfg--
hostname Love Me Sexy
rcon_password 
password
sv_steamgroup 12345
sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
sv_search_key searchkey

Forwarding pots 27000-27015 to 192.168.1.11 .

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Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available

2009-11-18 Thread Shane Arnold
Yes, on a Linux server. Are you running it behind a NAT firewall? We 
were told that using mm_dedicated_force_servers public|private would 
fix this, but it doesn't. Test this for me, if you start with +sv_lan 1 
does it then work flawlessly?

Blood Letter wrote:
 Anyone getting this?

 Windows.

 --command line--
 srcds.exe -console -game left4dead2 -maxplayers 8 -ip 192.168.1.11 -port 
 27015 -nohltv +sv_lan 0 +map c1m1_hotel

 --server.cfg--
 hostname Love Me Sexy
 rcon_password 
 password
 sv_steamgroup 12345
 sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
 sv_search_key searchkey

 Forwarding pots 27000-27015 to 192.168.1.11 .

 ??
 
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Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available

2009-11-18 Thread Blood Letter

Zero problems when running with sv_lan 1.

 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:05:37 +0800
 From: clontar...@iinet.net.au
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] The Session is No Longer Available
 
 Yes, on a Linux server. Are you running it behind a NAT firewall? We 
 were told that using mm_dedicated_force_servers public|private would 
 fix this, but it doesn't. Test this for me, if you start with +sv_lan 1 
 does it then work flawlessly?
 
 Blood Letter wrote:
  Anyone getting this?
 
  Windows.
 
  --command line--
  srcds.exe -console -game left4dead2 -maxplayers 8 -ip 192.168.1.11 -port 
  27015 -nohltv +sv_lan 0 +map c1m1_hotel
 
  --server.cfg--
  hostname Love Me Sexy
  rcon_password 
  password
  sv_steamgroup 12345
  sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1
  sv_search_key searchkey
 
  Forwarding pots 27000-27015 to 192.168.1.11 .
 
  ??

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