, 2008 11:27 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve, thank you for virtually destroying my TF2
community.
I agree, but what we basically have here is game theory: Sure it would
help everyone if we *all* stopped, but that's highly unlikely. In the
mean time
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Yeah, when valve said they wanted admins to work within the bounds of the
tags and they were going to be doing some PR and user education about the
tabs
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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:27 PM
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I agree, but what we basically
Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve, thank you for virtually destroying my TF2
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how would that have worked?? ;)
Some server admins volunteer to run the beta to upgrade their servers to
the custom tab??? :D
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how would that have worked?? ;)
Some server admins volunteer to run the beta to upgrade their servers to
the custom tab??? :D
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That will just add to confusion.
ONE tab is all that's needed with filter options ( all off by default )!
Regards
Steve
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From: Saint K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What VALVe needs to do, is simply implement another tab.
One tab 'Internet' with all servers, one
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MacDonald
Verzonden: Friday, March 14, 2008 10:21 AM
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Actually it could have been done totally on the clients during a beta test
and players could have opt
] Namens Steven Hartland
Verzonden: Friday, March 14, 2008 11:30 AM
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That will just add to confusion.
ONE tab is all that's needed with filter options ( all off by default
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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve,thank you for virtually destroying my TF2
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None of those examples have direct context to this situation. Myself and
others can provide proof of how this hurting our servers. Two
Saint K. wrote:
True, ideally it should just be a filter option, but apparently we're going
the tab way. And looking at VALVe, their not likely to revert something they
implemented. So somehow we'll be stuck to the tabs anyway.
A tab is just a pre-defined filter set and for your average Joe,
No, the best one is one tab, but many filtering options and that's
all. Why people should find the servers looking in 2 tabs. It's
simply annoying. And i think that's not impossible that Valve revert
the changes they made and give us back one nice tab with nice
filtering functions in bonus.
I think I have to agree with this. It would be best if there was just
one tab, but a more comprehensive filtering system. The tag idea is
great. It will really help people find the servers that they really
want. The custom tab throws a lot of people off though. I work for a GSP
and its unreal
Andrius Pirus wrote:
No, the best one is one tab, but many filtering options and that's
all. Why people should find the servers looking in 2 tabs. It's
simply annoying. And i think that's not impossible that Valve revert
the changes they made and give us back one nice tab with nice
I agree with the One Tab idea 100%. Penalizing us for running Custom/32
Player Servers is definitely not the best idea.
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Chris Staley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think I have to agree with this. It would be best if there was just
one tab, but a more comprehensive
sv_tags is a good idea. I'd like to add a tag to it indicating the game
play changes my pluins make so that they are easy to find (or avoid).
Unfortunately, the way it is implemented now, no server operator would run
my plugin if I actually used sv_tags the way it was intended.
The default tab
, March 14, 2008 10:26 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve, thank you for virtually destroying my TF2
community.
Andrius Pirus wrote:
No, the best one is one tab, but many filtering options and that's
all. Why people should find the servers looking in 2
I'm pretty sure most people who are able to download and install steam are
also able to click a check box that has the words Standard Servers Only
next to it. Check boxes are a common feature in most applications and many
web pages. It's not for hard core gamers anymore than sending an email is
LDuke wrote:
I'm pretty sure most people who are able to download and install steam are
also able to click a check box that has the words Standard Servers Only
next to it. Check boxes are a common feature in most applications and many
web pages. It's not for hard core gamers anymore than
...
- voogru.
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Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 11:17 AM
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I agree
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MacDonald
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That'd be fine.
Right under the VAC message.
'This server is custom and game
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Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 11:43 AM
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like i said in another message
But, that only proves my point. The way it is setup now, he will be joining
voogru's example party hat and grapple hook server because it's on the
Internet tab. If all servers were shown with an option to show only custom
servers, plugins like that would identify what they were and he'd at least
Nah, two tabs (all, standard) would be sufficient ;p
Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote:
There is no other solution to this problem other than to add 3 tabs
(internet, standard, custom) or to go back to one tab with all of the new
filters.
Anything else is beating around the bush and not
Only if all was the default.
Then valve would get thousands of retards complaining that they keep
ending up on servers with weird settings.
Any solution for your average gamer has to be what they expect, where
they expect it, and most importantly, not involving more than one list
- multiple
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MacDonald
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 4:26 PM
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That'd be fine.
Right under
just click the first server he sees without having to think.
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Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 10:58 AM
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There is no other solution to this problem other than
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Sent: 2008-03-14 12:52 PM
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I think that is the main problem here. Valve is catering to mouth
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Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 1:11 PM
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Excuse me, 1 tab plus filters. I'm all turned around.
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From: Don
While saying valve shouldn't cater to idiots might be good for us, you
have to remember that they want to make their game the best for
everyone. Idiots still have $30.
Just don't forget Valve's point of view.
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Yeah, I was about to flame you and attack you.
Just kidding.
Valve is catering to mouth breathing dumbies who don't have the
collective
intelligence of a pile of walnuts.
They need to stop making the game
That is true. Without the idiots we wouldn't be where we are now.
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While saying valve shouldn't cater to idiots might be good for us, you
have to remember that they want to make their game the best for
everyone. Idiots still have $30.
Just don't forget Valve's
wins.
- voogru.
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Spot on once again Voogru, you ought to work at Valve! ;)
On Fri
I like the tabs.
A lot of people are vocal about not liking them. I thought I'd just say
that I do like them and thought they were a good idea.
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Well personally, I like the tabs, but I'm an average gamer who only plays
about 2 to 3 hours a night
I don't want to play dustbowl 24/7 (de_dust anyone) i don't want instant jib
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Well personally, I like the tabs, but I'm an average gamer who only plays
about 2 to 3 hours a night
I don't want to play dustbowl 24/7 (de_dust anyone) i don't want
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Perhaps all the custom servers are seeing a drop in attendance because
players are actually choosing to play on Vanilla servers (I know I do).
Many players I know use a 3rd party serverbrowser
.
$.02
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Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 3:22:39 PM
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I like the tabs.
A lot
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I like the tabs.
A lot of people are vocal about not liking them. I thought I'd just say
that I do like them and thought they were a good idea
Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve, thank you for virtually destroying my TF2
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I like the tabs.
A lot of people are vocal about not liking them. I thought I'd just
say
that I do like them and thought they were a good idea
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I like the tabs.
A lot of people are vocal about not liking them. I thought I'd just say
that I do
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I'm sure Valve would say No Problem and be very happy that you are
enjoying the new update. :(
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killing our servers you are killing
your game.
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it to them. You aren't just killing our servers you are killing
your game.
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If you had enough regulars, your servers would stay full.
For instance, on Friday Night, I like to run party mode on my servers, which
places them on the custom tab. I can still keep them full from the time it
starts up until about dying gaming
Timothy L Havener
Verzonden: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:05 PM
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Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] Valve, thank you for virtually destroying my TF2
community.
It's not just valve. A lot of game devs seem out of touch with gamers
lately. Valve has always been the best developer
] Namens Timothy L Havener
Verzonden: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:05 PM
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It's not just valve. A lot of game devs seem out of touch with gamers
lately. Valve has always been
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I would also have to agree on this change hurting the overall community of
TF2. Partitioning the two types of servers vanilla and custom is something
that should not be done to help all servers servers an equal chance by
listing all of them on
don't like it.
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If you had enough
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It's not that bad yet.
Valve haven't told me i need to pay them and jump through hoops to host
a server with stats on... Yet.
Saint K. wrote:
One would almost think EA is involved
and I
don't like it.
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If you had
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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 4:23 PM
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You pulled the words right out of my mouth.
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Valve always here your going kill the game Community
They heard it when css came out
They heard it when steam came out
They heard it when
even
more.
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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 4:24 PM
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Valve always here your going kill the game Community
They heard it when
confusing people even
more.
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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 4:24 PM
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Valve always here your going kill the game
: Thursday, March 13, 2008 4:24 PM
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community.
Valve always here your going kill the game Community
They heard it when css came out
They heard it when steam came out
They heard it when they shut down the won servers.
I am more
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