Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-26 Thread James Ives
I'm going to assume this will hit live tomorrow?  I was kind of expecting it
today along with the item reset. (Being a Half-Life DS owner since the HLDM
era I should probably of learnt by now not to expect things like this hehe)

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 05:30, eugenio.motanu...@gmail.com wrote:

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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-25 Thread eugenio . motanum91
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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-24 Thread msleeper
You're not reading the entire article then, and only skipping to the
parts you don't like.

The article is about how to setup your server to be quickplay enabled.
Part of that process is that you have to register your servers - but
that's the only part you have to follow to be eligible for the
Halloween stuff.

There's no criteria for your servers to be registered. The only thing
that cares about as vanilla as possible is the quickplay matchmaking
system. Nowhere does it say anything about that with just registering
your server.

How is this a hard concept to understand.

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Jason pctool...@gmail.com wrote:
 msleeper, I am not reading between the lines, because it clearly states:
  Servers should be running as vanilla as possible. In particular, these
 server tags (sv_tags) will disqualify a server:

 We don't have but ONE vanilla server, thus my concern/question.
 So to someone who may reply in a HELPFUL way:  We don't have to put the
 results of the confirmation into our server.cfg as the instructions state,
 correct?  Just register and that's it?

 Thanks in advance.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 3:59 AM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com
 wrote:

 There's nothing to be confused about. Stop trying to read between the
 lines.

 In order to participate in the event, you have to REGISTER your
 servers. You don't have to make them quickplay valid. You JUST have to
 register them.

 How is there 20 replies to this thread.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Jason pctool...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ok, I am confused.  The quickplay (and registration of servers) is for
  servers without mods, etc.  Which is why we only have one of our five
  servers in the quickplay registration.  Yet, the OTHER servers is
  where we
  get most of our traffic.  Your quickplay registration rules say
  something
  along the lines of either getting blacklisted or ignored if you have
  modded
  servers.
  So people who have fun modded servers are simply shit out of luck?  If
  this is not the case, then please, explain and give DETAILS of what we
  will
  need to do.  I don't mind registering my servers for the halloween event
  stuff, my community would love itbut if I get left out because
  we
  have mods, I think that's a bit crappy of valve.
  Let us know exactly what we need to do to participate please...thank
  you
  in advance.
  Jason
 
  On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Rob Liu robl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Why even bother trying to police it.  It's a holiday special events.
  People who's going to cheat/abuse it is still going get what they want
  in
  the end.
 
  On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Violent Crimes
  maxim_confus...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your friends
  to
  get the gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the
  system?
 
  
  From: Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.com
  To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
  hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
  mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Cc: TF Team tft...@valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM
  Subject: [hlds] Halloween 2011
 
  We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near
  future
  and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random
  gift
  drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register their
  servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the
  Halloween
  maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your
  server
  will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
  traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift drop
  system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops
  and
  other potential value-adds in the future.
 
  You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live
  until
  next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined here.
 
  -Jon
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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-24 Thread Jason
I already got itmsleeper, thanks for doing your best to make some of us
look like morons even more.  Learn a little tact and learn to respect that
some of us *do* have comprehension issues sometimes.  Peace to you and the
others who made us feel more stupid than we already did.  Cheers

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:00 PM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.comwrote:

 You're not reading the entire article then, and only skipping to the
 parts you don't like.

 The article is about how to setup your server to be quickplay enabled.
 Part of that process is that you have to register your servers - but
 that's the only part you have to follow to be eligible for the
 Halloween stuff.

 There's no criteria for your servers to be registered. The only thing
 that cares about as vanilla as possible is the quickplay matchmaking
 system. Nowhere does it say anything about that with just registering
 your server.

 How is this a hard concept to understand.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Jason pctool...@gmail.com wrote:
  msleeper, I am not reading between the lines, because it clearly states:
   Servers should be running as vanilla as possible. In particular,
 these
  server tags (sv_tags) will disqualify a server:
 
  We don't have but ONE vanilla server, thus my concern/question.
  So to someone who may reply in a HELPFUL way:  We don't have to put the
  results of the confirmation into our server.cfg as the instructions
 state,
  correct?  Just register and that's it?
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 3:59 AM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com
  wrote:
 
  There's nothing to be confused about. Stop trying to read between the
  lines.
 
  In order to participate in the event, you have to REGISTER your
  servers. You don't have to make them quickplay valid. You JUST have to
  register them.
 
  How is there 20 replies to this thread.
 
  On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Jason pctool...@gmail.com wrote:
   Ok, I am confused.  The quickplay (and registration of servers) is
 for
   servers without mods, etc.  Which is why we only have one of our five
   servers in the quickplay registration.  Yet, the OTHER servers is
   where we
   get most of our traffic.  Your quickplay registration rules say
   something
   along the lines of either getting blacklisted or ignored if you have
   modded
   servers.
   So people who have fun modded servers are simply shit out of luck?
  If
   this is not the case, then please, explain and give DETAILS of what we
   will
   need to do.  I don't mind registering my servers for the halloween
 event
   stuff, my community would love itbut if I get left out because
   we
   have mods, I think that's a bit crappy of valve.
   Let us know exactly what we need to do to participate
 please...thank
   you
   in advance.
   Jason
  
   On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Rob Liu robl...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Why even bother trying to police it.  It's a holiday special
 events.
   People who's going to cheat/abuse it is still going get what they
 want
   in
   the end.
  
   On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Violent Crimes
   maxim_confus...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
   Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your friends
   to
   get the gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the
   system?
  
   
   From: Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.com
   To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
   hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32
 server
   mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Cc: TF Team tft...@valvesoftware.com
   Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM
   Subject: [hlds] Halloween 2011
  
   We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near
   future
   and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random
   gift
   drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register
 their
   servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the
   Halloween
   maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your
   server
   will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
   traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift
 drop
   system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops
   and
   other potential value-adds in the future.
  
   You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live
   until
   next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined here.
  
   -Jon
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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-24 Thread m33crob
Do you have to run the event maps specifically to get the drops? Sorry if
this seems dumb, but I had my male period hiatus last year and did not play
TF2 or follow it for that matter from October thru January of this year...

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Jason pctool...@gmail.com wrote:

 I already got itmsleeper, thanks for doing your best to make some of us
 look like morons even more.  Learn a little tact and learn to respect that
 some of us *do* have comprehension issues sometimes.  Peace to you and the
 others who made us feel more stupid than we already did.  Cheers


 On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:00 PM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.comwrote:

 You're not reading the entire article then, and only skipping to the
 parts you don't like.

 The article is about how to setup your server to be quickplay enabled.
 Part of that process is that you have to register your servers - but
 that's the only part you have to follow to be eligible for the
 Halloween stuff.

 There's no criteria for your servers to be registered. The only thing
 that cares about as vanilla as possible is the quickplay matchmaking
 system. Nowhere does it say anything about that with just registering
 your server.

 How is this a hard concept to understand.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Jason pctool...@gmail.com wrote:
  msleeper, I am not reading between the lines, because it clearly states:
   Servers should be running as vanilla as possible. In particular,
 these
  server tags (sv_tags) will disqualify a server:
 
  We don't have but ONE vanilla server, thus my concern/question.
  So to someone who may reply in a HELPFUL way:  We don't have to put the
  results of the confirmation into our server.cfg as the instructions
 state,
  correct?  Just register and that's it?
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 3:59 AM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com
 
  wrote:
 
  There's nothing to be confused about. Stop trying to read between the
  lines.
 
  In order to participate in the event, you have to REGISTER your
  servers. You don't have to make them quickplay valid. You JUST have to
  register them.
 
  How is there 20 replies to this thread.
 
  On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Jason pctool...@gmail.com wrote:
   Ok, I am confused.  The quickplay (and registration of servers) is
 for
   servers without mods, etc.  Which is why we only have one of our five
   servers in the quickplay registration.  Yet, the OTHER servers is
   where we
   get most of our traffic.  Your quickplay registration rules say
   something
   along the lines of either getting blacklisted or ignored if you have
   modded
   servers.
   So people who have fun modded servers are simply shit out of luck?
  If
   this is not the case, then please, explain and give DETAILS of what
 we
   will
   need to do.  I don't mind registering my servers for the halloween
 event
   stuff, my community would love itbut if I get left out
 because
   we
   have mods, I think that's a bit crappy of valve.
   Let us know exactly what we need to do to participate
 please...thank
   you
   in advance.
   Jason
  
   On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Rob Liu robl...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Why even bother trying to police it.  It's a holiday special
 events.
   People who's going to cheat/abuse it is still going get what they
 want
   in
   the end.
  
   On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Violent Crimes
   maxim_confus...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
   Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your
 friends
   to
   get the gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the
   system?
  
   
   From: Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.com
   To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
   hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32
 server
   mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
   Cc: TF Team tft...@valvesoftware.com
   Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM
   Subject: [hlds] Halloween 2011
  
   We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near
   future
   and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random
   gift
   drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register
 their
   servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the
   Halloween
   maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your
   server
   will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
   traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift
 drop
   system will result in losing your registration, access to gift
 drops
   and
   other potential value-adds in the future.
  
   You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live
   until
   next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined here.
  
   -Jon
   ___
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 archives,
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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-24 Thread Fletcher Dunn
Yes, drops are tied to particular maps.

From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of m33crob
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:22 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

Do you have to run the event maps specifically to get the drops? Sorry if this 
seems dumb, but I had my male period hiatus last year and did not play TF2 or 
follow it for that matter from October thru January of this year...
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Jason 
pctool...@gmail.commailto:pctool...@gmail.com wrote:
I already got itmsleeper, thanks for doing your best to make some of us 
look like morons even more.  Learn a little tact and learn to respect that some 
of us *do* have comprehension issues sometimes.  Peace to you and the others 
who made us feel more stupid than we already did.  Cheers

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:00 PM, msleeper 
mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.commailto:mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com wrote:
You're not reading the entire article then, and only skipping to the
parts you don't like.

The article is about how to setup your server to be quickplay enabled.
Part of that process is that you have to register your servers - but
that's the only part you have to follow to be eligible for the
Halloween stuff.

There's no criteria for your servers to be registered. The only thing
that cares about as vanilla as possible is the quickplay matchmaking
system. Nowhere does it say anything about that with just registering
your server.

How is this a hard concept to understand.

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Jason 
pctool...@gmail.commailto:pctool...@gmail.com wrote:
 msleeper, I am not reading between the lines, because it clearly states:
  Servers should be running as vanilla as possible. In particular, these
 server tags (sv_tags) will disqualify a server:

 We don't have but ONE vanilla server, thus my concern/question.
 So to someone who may reply in a HELPFUL way:  We don't have to put the
 results of the confirmation into our server.cfg as the instructions state,
 correct?  Just register and that's it?

 Thanks in advance.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 3:59 AM, msleeper 
 mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.commailto:mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com
 wrote:

 There's nothing to be confused about. Stop trying to read between the
 lines.

 In order to participate in the event, you have to REGISTER your
 servers. You don't have to make them quickplay valid. You JUST have to
 register them.

 How is there 20 replies to this thread.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Jason 
 pctool...@gmail.commailto:pctool...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ok, I am confused.  The quickplay (and registration of servers) is for
  servers without mods, etc.  Which is why we only have one of our five
  servers in the quickplay registration.  Yet, the OTHER servers is
  where we
  get most of our traffic.  Your quickplay registration rules say
  something
  along the lines of either getting blacklisted or ignored if you have
  modded
  servers.
  So people who have fun modded servers are simply shit out of luck?  If
  this is not the case, then please, explain and give DETAILS of what we
  will
  need to do.  I don't mind registering my servers for the halloween event
  stuff, my community would love itbut if I get left out because
  we
  have mods, I think that's a bit crappy of valve.
  Let us know exactly what we need to do to participate please...thank
  you
  in advance.
  Jason
 
  On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Rob Liu 
  robl...@gmail.commailto:robl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Why even bother trying to police it.  It's a holiday special events.
  People who's going to cheat/abuse it is still going get what they want
  in
  the end.
 
  On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Violent Crimes
  maxim_confus...@yahoo.commailto:maxim_confus...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your friends
  to
  get the gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the
  system?
 
  
  From: Jon Lippincott 
  j...@valvesoftware.commailto:j...@valvesoftware.com
  To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
  hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.commailto:hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com;
   Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
  mailing list 
  hlds@list.valvesoftware.commailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Cc: TF Team tft...@valvesoftware.commailto:tft...@valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM
  Subject: [hlds] Halloween 2011
 
  We're going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near
  future
  and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random
  gift
  drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register their
  servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the
  Halloween
  maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your
  server
  will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive

Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-24 Thread RSS List User

Has any launch date been announced yet?

On 10/25/2011 12:23 AM, Fletcher Dunn wrote:


Yes, drops are tied to particular maps.

*From:*hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *m33crob

*Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2011 9:22 PM
*To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
*Subject:* Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

Do you have to run the event maps specifically to get the drops? Sorry 
if this seems dumb, but I had my male period hiatus last year and did 
not play TF2 or follow it for that matter from October thru January of 
this year...


On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Jason pctool...@gmail.com 
mailto:pctool...@gmail.com wrote:


I already got itmsleeper, thanks for doing your best to make some 
of us look like morons even more.  Learn a little tact and learn to 
respect that some of us *do* have comprehension issues sometimes.  
Peace to you and the others who made us feel more stupid than we 
already did.  Cheers


On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:00 PM, msleeper 
mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com mailto:mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com 
wrote:


You're not reading the entire article then, and only skipping to the
parts you don't like.

The article is about how to setup your server to be quickplay enabled.
Part of that process is that you have to register your servers - but
that's the only part you have to follow to be eligible for the
Halloween stuff.

There's no criteria for your servers to be registered. The only thing
that cares about as vanilla as possible is the quickplay matchmaking
system. Nowhere does it say anything about that with just registering
your server.

How is this a hard concept to understand.


On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Jason pctool...@gmail.com 
mailto:pctool...@gmail.com wrote:


 msleeper, I am not reading between the lines, because it clearly states:
  Servers should be running as vanilla as possible. In particular, 
these

 server tags (sv_tags) will disqualify a server:

 We don't have but ONE vanilla server, thus my concern/question.
 So to someone who may reply in a HELPFUL way:  We don't have to put the
 results of the confirmation into our server.cfg as the instructions 
state,

 correct?  Just register and that's it?

 Thanks in advance.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 3:59 AM, msleeper 
mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com mailto:mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com

 wrote:

 There's nothing to be confused about. Stop trying to read between the
 lines.

 In order to participate in the event, you have to REGISTER your
 servers. You don't have to make them quickplay valid. You JUST have to
 register them.

 How is there 20 replies to this thread.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Jason pctool...@gmail.com 
mailto:pctool...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ok, I am confused.  The quickplay (and registration of servers) 
is for

  servers without mods, etc.  Which is why we only have one of our five
  servers in the quickplay registration.  Yet, the OTHER servers is
  where we
  get most of our traffic.  Your quickplay registration rules say
  something
  along the lines of either getting blacklisted or ignored if you have
  modded
  servers.
  So people who have fun modded servers are simply shit out of 
luck?  If
  this is not the case, then please, explain and give DETAILS of 
what we

  will
  need to do.  I don't mind registering my servers for the 
halloween event
  stuff, my community would love itbut if I get left out 
because

  we
  have mods, I think that's a bit crappy of valve.
  Let us know exactly what we need to do to participate 
please...thank

  you
  in advance.
  Jason
 
  On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Rob Liu robl...@gmail.com 
mailto:robl...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  Why even bother trying to police it.  It's a holiday special 
events.
  People who's going to cheat/abuse it is still going get what 
they want

  in
  the end.
 
  On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Violent Crimes
  maxim_confus...@yahoo.com mailto:maxim_confus...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

 
  Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your 
friends

  to
  get the gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the
  system?
 
  
  From: Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.com 
mailto:j...@valvesoftware.com

  To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
  hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com 
mailto:hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 
server
  mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com 
mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Cc: TF Team tft...@valvesoftware.com 
mailto:tft...@valvesoftware.com

  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM
  Subject: [hlds] Halloween 2011
 
  We're going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near
  future
  and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random
  gift
  drops, but this year we are requiring that participants 
register their

  servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the
  Halloween
  maps

Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-22 Thread Rob Liu
Why even bother trying to police it.  It's a holiday special events.
People who's going to cheat/abuse it is still going get what they want in
the end.

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Violent Crimes
maxim_confus...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your friends to get
 the gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the system?

 --
 *From:* Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.com
 *To:* Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
 hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
 mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 *Cc:* TF Team tft...@valvesoftware.com
 *Sent:* Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM
 *Subject:* [hlds] Halloween 2011

 We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near future
 and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random gift
 drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register their
 servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the Halloween
 maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your server
 will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
 traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift drop
 system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops and
 other potential value-adds in the future.

 You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live until
 next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined 
 herehttps://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2825-AFGJ-3513#how
 .

 -Jon

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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-22 Thread Jason
Ok, I am confused.  The quickplay (and registration of servers) is for
servers without mods, etc.  Which is why we only have one of our five
servers in the quickplay registration.  Yet, the OTHER servers is where we
get most of our traffic.  Your quickplay registration rules say something
along the lines of either getting blacklisted or ignored if you have modded
servers.

So people who have fun modded servers are simply shit out of luck?  If
this is not the case, then please, explain and give DETAILS of what we will
need to do.  I don't mind registering my servers for the halloween event
stuff, my community would love itbut if I get left out because we
have mods, I think that's a bit crappy of valve.

Let us know exactly what we need to do to participate please...thank you
in advance.

Jason

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Rob Liu robl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why even bother trying to police it.  It's a holiday special events.
 People who's going to cheat/abuse it is still going get what they want in
 the end.


 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Violent Crimes maxim_confus...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

 Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your friends to
 get the gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the system?

 --
 *From:* Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.com
 *To:* Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
 hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
 mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 *Cc:* TF Team tft...@valvesoftware.com
 *Sent:* Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM
 *Subject:* [hlds] Halloween 2011

 We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near future
 and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random gift
 drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register their
 servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the Halloween
 maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your server
 will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
 traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift drop
 system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops and
 other potential value-adds in the future.

 You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live until
 next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined 
 herehttps://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2825-AFGJ-3513#how
 .

 -Jon

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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-22 Thread msleeper
There's nothing to be confused about. Stop trying to read between the lines.

In order to participate in the event, you have to REGISTER your
servers. You don't have to make them quickplay valid. You JUST have to
register them.

How is there 20 replies to this thread.

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Jason pctool...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, I am confused.  The quickplay (and registration of servers) is for
 servers without mods, etc.  Which is why we only have one of our five
 servers in the quickplay registration.  Yet, the OTHER servers is where we
 get most of our traffic.  Your quickplay registration rules say something
 along the lines of either getting blacklisted or ignored if you have modded
 servers.
 So people who have fun modded servers are simply shit out of luck?  If
 this is not the case, then please, explain and give DETAILS of what we will
 need to do.  I don't mind registering my servers for the halloween event
 stuff, my community would love itbut if I get left out because we
 have mods, I think that's a bit crappy of valve.
 Let us know exactly what we need to do to participate please...thank you
 in advance.
 Jason

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Rob Liu robl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why even bother trying to police it.  It's a holiday special events.
 People who's going to cheat/abuse it is still going get what they want in
 the end.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Violent Crimes
 maxim_confus...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your friends to
 get the gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the system?

 
 From: Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.com
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
 mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Cc: TF Team tft...@valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM
 Subject: [hlds] Halloween 2011

 We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near future
 and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random gift
 drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register their
 servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the Halloween
 maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your server
 will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
 traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift drop
 system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops and
 other potential value-adds in the future.

 You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live until
 next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined here.

 -Jon
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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-22 Thread teamb...@comcast.net
Jason,

All the info about the quickplay and registration system was posted at a link 
at the bottom of Jon's original email.
If you read that you will probably get answers to most of your questions.

We are running quite a few plug-ins and our all of our servers are receiving a 
lot of players via quick so don't be overly concerned about being blacklisted.

- Reply message -
From: Jason pctool...@gmail.com
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Halloween 2011
Date: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 11:46 pm
Ok, I am confused.  The quickplay (and registration of servers) is for 
servers without mods, etc.  Which is why we only have one of our five servers 
in the quickplay registration.  Yet, the OTHER servers is where we get most 
of our traffic.  Your quickplay registration rules say something along the 
lines of either getting blacklisted or ignored if you have modded servers.

So people who have fun modded servers are simply shit out of luck?  If this 
is not the case, then please, explain and give DETAILS of what we will need to 
do.  I don't mind registering my servers for the halloween event stuff, my 
community would love itbut if I get left out because we have mods, I 
think that's a bit crappy of valve.  

Let us know exactly what we need to do to participate please...thank you in 
advance.
Jason

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Rob Liu robl...@gmail.com wrote:

Why even bother trying to police it.  It's a holiday special events.
People who's going to cheat/abuse it is still going get what they want in the 
end.


On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Violent Crimes maxim_confus...@yahoo.com 
wrote:




Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your friends to get the 
gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the system?



From: Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.com


To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing 
list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com


Cc: TF Team tft...@valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM


Subject: [hlds] Halloween 2011


We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near future and 
wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random gift drops, but 
this year we are requiring that participants register their servers.  If you 
choose not to register, you can still run the Halloween maps, but no gifts will 
drop on your server.  By registering, your server will also be included in 
matchmaking, which will potentially drive traffic to you.  Note that cheating 
or otherwise abusing the gift drop system will result in losing your 
registration, access to gift drops and other potential value-adds in the future.

 You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live until next 
week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined here.

 -Jon
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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-22 Thread Scott Highland

Some clarification would still help.

On Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:59:43 AM, msleeper wrote:

There's nothing to be confused about. Stop trying to read between the lines.

In order to participate in the event, you have to REGISTER your
servers. You don't have to make them quickplay valid. You JUST have to
register them.

How is there 20 replies to this thread.

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Jasonpctool...@gmail.com  wrote:

Ok, I am confused.  The quickplay (and registration of servers) is for
servers without mods, etc.  Which is why we only have one of our five
servers in the quickplay registration.  Yet, the OTHER servers is where we
get most of our traffic.  Your quickplay registration rules say something
along the lines of either getting blacklisted or ignored if you have modded
servers.
So people who have fun modded servers are simply shit out of luck?  If
this is not the case, then please, explain and give DETAILS of what we will
need to do.  I don't mind registering my servers for the halloween event
stuff, my community would love itbut if I get left out because we
have mods, I think that's a bit crappy of valve.
Let us know exactly what we need to do to participate please...thank you
in advance.
Jason

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Rob Liurobl...@gmail.com  wrote:


Why even bother trying to police it.  It's a holiday special events.
People who's going to cheat/abuse it is still going get what they want in
the end.

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Violent Crimes
maxim_confus...@yahoo.com  wrote:


Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your friends to
get the gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the system?


From: Jon Lippincottj...@valvesoftware.com
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
mailing listhlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Cc: TF Teamtft...@valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM
Subject: [hlds] Halloween 2011

We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near future
and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random gift
drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register their
servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the Halloween
maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your server
will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift drop
system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops and
other potential value-adds in the future.

You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live until
next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined here.

-Jon
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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-22 Thread kelly joe
How do you register your server?


On 22 October 2011 09:29, Scott Highland tgnwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Some clarification would still help.


 On Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:59:43 AM, msleeper wrote:

 There's nothing to be confused about. Stop trying to read between the
 lines.

 In order to participate in the event, you have to REGISTER your
 servers. You don't have to make them quickplay valid. You JUST have to
 register them.

 How is there 20 replies to this thread.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Jasonpctool...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Ok, I am confused.  The quickplay (and registration of servers) is for
 servers without mods, etc.  Which is why we only have one of our five
 servers in the quickplay registration.  Yet, the OTHER servers is where
 we
 get most of our traffic.  Your quickplay registration rules say
 something
 along the lines of either getting blacklisted or ignored if you have
 modded
 servers.
 So people who have fun modded servers are simply shit out of luck?  If
 this is not the case, then please, explain and give DETAILS of what we
 will
 need to do.  I don't mind registering my servers for the halloween event
 stuff, my community would love itbut if I get left out because we
 have mods, I think that's a bit crappy of valve.
 Let us know exactly what we need to do to participate please...thank
 you
 in advance.
 Jason

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Rob Liurobl...@gmail.com  wrote:


 Why even bother trying to police it.  It's a holiday special events.
 People who's going to cheat/abuse it is still going get what they want
 in
 the end.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Violent Crimes
 maxim_confus...@yahoo.com  wrote:


 Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your friends to
 get the gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the
 system?

 __**__
 From: Jon Lippincottjonl@valvesoftware.**com j...@valvesoftware.com
 
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 hlds_linux@list.**valvesoftware.comhlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com;
 Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
 mailing listhlds@list.valvesoftware.**comhlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 
 Cc: TF Teamtft...@valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM
 Subject: [hlds] Halloween 2011

 We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near
 future
 and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random gift
 drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register their
 servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the
 Halloween
 maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your
 server
 will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
 traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift drop
 system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops
 and
 other potential value-adds in the future.

 You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live until
 next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined here.

 -Jon
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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-22 Thread James Botting
You Connect to your server via the ft2 client, open console and issue the
identity create command (off the top of my head I think it is
cl_create_server_identity, but check that on the valve docs) then copy the
two cvars outputted by the command to your server.cfg
You need to do this for each one of your servers. They must all run with
unique registration values.

On 22 Oct 2011, at 12:09, kelly joe whitenoi...@ntlworld.com wrote:

How do you register your server?


On 22 October 2011 09:29, Scott Highland tgnwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Some clarification would still help.


 On Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:59:43 AM, msleeper wrote:

 There's nothing to be confused about. Stop trying to read between the
 lines.

 In order to participate in the event, you have to REGISTER your
 servers. You don't have to make them quickplay valid. You JUST have to
 register them.

 How is there 20 replies to this thread.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Jasonpctool...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Ok, I am confused.  The quickplay (and registration of servers) is for
 servers without mods, etc.  Which is why we only have one of our five
 servers in the quickplay registration.  Yet, the OTHER servers is where
 we
 get most of our traffic.  Your quickplay registration rules say
 something
 along the lines of either getting blacklisted or ignored if you have
 modded
 servers.
 So people who have fun modded servers are simply shit out of luck?  If
 this is not the case, then please, explain and give DETAILS of what we
 will
 need to do.  I don't mind registering my servers for the halloween event
 stuff, my community would love itbut if I get left out because we
 have mods, I think that's a bit crappy of valve.
 Let us know exactly what we need to do to participate please...thank
 you
 in advance.
 Jason

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Rob Liurobl...@gmail.com  wrote:


 Why even bother trying to police it.  It's a holiday special events.
 People who's going to cheat/abuse it is still going get what they want
 in
 the end.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Violent Crimes
 maxim_confus...@yahoo.com  wrote:


 Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your friends to
 get the gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the
 system?

 __**__
 From: Jon Lippincottjonl@valvesoftware.**com j...@valvesoftware.com
 
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 hlds_linux@list.**valvesoftware.comhlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com;
 Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
 mailing listhlds@list.valvesoftware.**comhlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 
 Cc: TF Teamtft...@valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM
 Subject: [hlds] Halloween 2011

 We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near
 future
 and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random gift
 drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register their
 servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the
 Halloween
 maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your
 server
 will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
 traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift drop
 system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops
 and
 other potential value-adds in the future.

 You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live until
 next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined here.

 -Jon
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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-22 Thread kelly joe
Thankx thats cleared a few things up. Does that mean you have to let other
players on, or can it remain private and password protected?

Also, what is ft2, and how do you connect via client, do I have to download
ft2? Where do the convars come from, and where do you get the registration
values from?

Thanks

Sorry about all the questions, this is only my second server!




On 22 October 2011 13:49, James Botting bottswan...@googlemail.com wrote:

 You Connect to your server via the ft2 client, open console and issue the
 identity create command (off the top of my head I think it is
 cl_create_server_identity, but check that on the valve docs) then copy the
 two cvars outputted by the command to your server.cfg
 You need to do this for each one of your servers. They must all run with
 unique registration values.


 On 22 Oct 2011, at 12:09, kelly joe whitenoi...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 How do you register your server?


 On 22 October 2011 09:29, Scott Highland tgnwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Some clarification would still help.


 On Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:59:43 AM, msleeper wrote:

 There's nothing to be confused about. Stop trying to read between the
 lines.

 In order to participate in the event, you have to REGISTER your
 servers. You don't have to make them quickplay valid. You JUST have to
 register them.

 How is there 20 replies to this thread.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Jasonpctool...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Ok, I am confused.  The quickplay (and registration of servers) is for
 servers without mods, etc.  Which is why we only have one of our five
 servers in the quickplay registration.  Yet, the OTHER servers is
 where we
 get most of our traffic.  Your quickplay registration rules say
 something
 along the lines of either getting blacklisted or ignored if you have
 modded
 servers.
 So people who have fun modded servers are simply shit out of luck?  If
 this is not the case, then please, explain and give DETAILS of what we
 will
 need to do.  I don't mind registering my servers for the halloween event
 stuff, my community would love itbut if I get left out because
 we
 have mods, I think that's a bit crappy of valve.
 Let us know exactly what we need to do to participate please...thank
 you
 in advance.
 Jason

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Rob Liurobl...@gmail.com  wrote:


 Why even bother trying to police it.  It's a holiday special events.
 People who's going to cheat/abuse it is still going get what they want
 in
 the end.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Violent Crimes
 maxim_confus...@yahoo.com  wrote:


 Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your friends
 to
 get the gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the
 system?

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 Cc: TF Teamtft...@valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM
 Subject: [hlds] Halloween 2011

 We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near
 future
 and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random
 gift
 drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register their
 servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the
 Halloween
 maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your
 server
 will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
 traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift drop
 system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops
 and
 other potential value-adds in the future.

 You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live
 until
 next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined here.

 -Jon
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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-22 Thread Saul Rennison
He meant connect to your server from TF2, not ft2. You enter the console
variables (convars) in the TF2 console.

On Saturday, 22 October 2011, kelly joe whitenoi...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 Thankx thats cleared a few things up. Does that mean you have to let other
players on, or can it remain private and password protected?

 Also, what is ft2, and how do you connect via client, do I have to
download ft2? Where do the convars come from, and where do you get the
registration values from?

 Thanks

 Sorry about all the questions, this is only my second server!



 On 22 October 2011 13:49, James Botting bottswan...@googlemail.com
wrote:

 You Connect to your server via the ft2 client, open console and issue the
identity create command (off the top of my head I think it is
cl_create_server_identity, but check that on the valve docs) then copy the
two cvars outputted by the command to your server.cfg
 You need to do this for each one of your servers. They must all run with
unique registration values.

 On 22 Oct 2011, at 12:09, kelly joe whitenoi...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 How do you register your server?


 On 22 October 2011 09:29, Scott Highland tgnwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Some clarification would still help.

 On Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:59:43 AM, msleeper wrote:

 There's nothing to be confused about. Stop trying to read between the
lines.

 In order to participate in the event, you have to REGISTER your
 servers. You don't have to make them quickplay valid. You JUST have to
 register them.

 How is there 20 replies to this thread.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Jasonpctool...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Ok, I am confused.  The quickplay (and registration of servers) is for
 servers without mods, etc.  Which is why we only have one of our five
 servers in the quickplay registration.  Yet, the OTHER servers is where
we
 get most of our traffic.  Your quickplay registration rules say
something
 along the lines of either getting blacklisted or ignored if you have
modded
 servers.
 So people who have fun modded servers are simply shit out of luck?  If
 this is not the case, then please, explain and give DETAILS of what we
will
 need to do.  I don't mind registering my servers for the halloween event
 stuff, my community would love itbut if I get left out because we
 have mods, I think that's a bit crappy of valve.
 Let us know exactly what we need to do to participate please...thank
you
 in advance.
 Jason

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Rob Liurobl...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Why even bother trying to police it.  It's a holiday special events.
 People who's going to cheat/abuse it is still going get what they want in
 the end.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Violent Crimes
 maxim_confus...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your friends to
 get the gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the
system?

 
 From: Jon Lippincottj...@valvesoftware.com
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
 mailing listh...@list.va

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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-22 Thread Emil Larsson
I would like to know this too, especially as we have a for the community
passworded server, which ran 24/7 mann manor last year (password was on the
steam community page for the group so it wasn't exactly that much of a
secret). No abuse were going on of any kind, the only difference was that it
was limited to the people who knew the password.

I want a clarification of what abuse or cheating would be. Of course,
fooling the server into that the server is full is one obvious way but
still...

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Violent Crimes
maxim_confus...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your friends to get
 the gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the system?

 --
 *From:* Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.com
 *To:* Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
 hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
 mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 *Cc:* TF Team tft...@valvesoftware.com
 *Sent:* Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM
 *Subject:* [hlds] Halloween 2011

 We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near future
 and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random gift
 drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register their
 servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the Halloween
 maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your server
 will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
 traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift drop
 system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops and
 other potential value-adds in the future.

 You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live until
 next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined 
 herehttps://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2825-AFGJ-3513#how
 .

 -Jon

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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-22 Thread James Botting
Yes I meant TF2. My apologies. Silly iPhone keyboard.
With a password I assume you would be excluded from quick play but that
wouldn't effect server registration I wouldn't think.

On 22 Oct 2011, at 15:36, Emil Larsson ail...@gmail.com wrote:

I would like to know this too, especially as we have a for the community
passworded server, which ran 24/7 mann manor last year (password was on the
steam community page for the group so it wasn't exactly that much of a
secret). No abuse were going on of any kind, the only difference was that it
was limited to the people who knew the password.

I want a clarification of what abuse or cheating would be. Of course,
fooling the server into that the server is full is one obvious way but
still...

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Violent Crimes
maxim_confus...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your friends to get
 the gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the system?

 --
 *From:* Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.com
 *To:* Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
 hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
 mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 *Cc:* TF Team tft...@valvesoftware.com
 *Sent:* Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM
 *Subject:* [hlds] Halloween 2011

 We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near future
 and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random gift
 drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register their
 servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the Halloween
 maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your server
 will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
 traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift drop
 system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops and
 other potential value-adds in the future.

 You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live until
 next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined 
 herehttps://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2825-AFGJ-3513#how
 .

 -Jon

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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-22 Thread kelly joe
Thanks So much guys, been wondering about this all day.

So I can register my server, and still keep it private! Great! ;)

Just one last question, what is quickplay?

Thanks




On 22 October 2011 15:45, James Botting bottswan...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Yes I meant TF2. My apologies. Silly iPhone keyboard.
 With a password I assume you would be excluded from quick play but that
 wouldn't effect server registration I wouldn't think.


 On 22 Oct 2011, at 15:36, Emil Larsson ail...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would like to know this too, especially as we have a for the community
 passworded server, which ran 24/7 mann manor last year (password was on the
 steam community page for the group so it wasn't exactly that much of a
 secret). No abuse were going on of any kind, the only difference was that it
 was limited to the people who knew the password.

 I want a clarification of what abuse or cheating would be. Of course,
 fooling the server into that the server is full is one obvious way but
 still...

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Violent Crimes maxim_confus...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

 Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your friends to
 get the gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the system?

 --
 *From:* Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.com
 *To:* Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
 hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
 mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 *Cc:* TF Team tft...@valvesoftware.com
 *Sent:* Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM
 *Subject:* [hlds] Halloween 2011

 We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near future
 and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random gift
 drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register their
 servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the Halloween
 maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your server
 will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
 traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift drop
 system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops and
 other potential value-adds in the future.

 You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live until
 next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined 
 herehttps://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2825-AFGJ-3513#how
 .

 -Jon

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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-22 Thread Jason
msleeper, I am not reading between the lines, because it clearly
states:  Servers
should be running as vanilla as possible. In particular, these server tags
(sv_tags) will disqualify a server:

We don't have but ONE vanilla server, thus my concern/question.

So to someone who may reply in a HELPFUL way:  We don't have to put the
results of the confirmation into our server.cfg as the instructions state,
correct?  Just register and that's it?

Thanks in advance.

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 3:59 AM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.comwrote:

 There's nothing to be confused about. Stop trying to read between the
 lines.

 In order to participate in the event, you have to REGISTER your
 servers. You don't have to make them quickplay valid. You JUST have to
 register them.

 How is there 20 replies to this thread.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Jason pctool...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ok, I am confused.  The quickplay (and registration of servers) is for
  servers without mods, etc.  Which is why we only have one of our five
  servers in the quickplay registration.  Yet, the OTHER servers is where
 we
  get most of our traffic.  Your quickplay registration rules say
 something
  along the lines of either getting blacklisted or ignored if you have
 modded
  servers.
  So people who have fun modded servers are simply shit out of luck?  If
  this is not the case, then please, explain and give DETAILS of what we
 will
  need to do.  I don't mind registering my servers for the halloween event
  stuff, my community would love itbut if I get left out because we
  have mods, I think that's a bit crappy of valve.
  Let us know exactly what we need to do to participate please...thank
 you
  in advance.
  Jason
 
  On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Rob Liu robl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Why even bother trying to police it.  It's a holiday special events.
  People who's going to cheat/abuse it is still going get what they want
 in
  the end.
 
  On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Violent Crimes
  maxim_confus...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your friends to
  get the gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the
 system?
 
  
  From: Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.com
  To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
  hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
  mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Cc: TF Team tft...@valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM
  Subject: [hlds] Halloween 2011
 
  We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near
 future
  and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random gift
  drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register their
  servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the
 Halloween
  maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your
 server
  will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
  traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift drop
  system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops
 and
  other potential value-adds in the future.
 
  You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live until
  next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined here.
 
  -Jon
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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-22 Thread Dravu
You really should read all of the messages already sent in reply to
this topic. Jeff outlined everything nicely earlier. The main point is
that when you register your server, you're simply registering it with
Valve. The quickplay traffic is just a perk and you can even use a
cvar to disable it if you don't want it. None of the servers I help
run are vanilla, but we registered them months ago anyways without
issue.

To answer your question: you do. When you run the command on your tf2
client to create a gameserver identity, you take the lines it outputs
and put them in your server.cfg file. Without those two lines, your
server won't be considered registered.

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Jason pctool...@gmail.com wrote:
 msleeper, I am not reading between the lines, because it clearly states:
  Servers should be running as vanilla as possible. In particular, these
 server tags (sv_tags) will disqualify a server:

 We don't have but ONE vanilla server, thus my concern/question.
 So to someone who may reply in a HELPFUL way:  We don't have to put the
 results of the confirmation into our server.cfg as the instructions state,
 correct?  Just register and that's it?

 Thanks in advance.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 3:59 AM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com
 wrote:

 There's nothing to be confused about. Stop trying to read between the
 lines.

 In order to participate in the event, you have to REGISTER your
 servers. You don't have to make them quickplay valid. You JUST have to
 register them.

 How is there 20 replies to this thread.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Jason pctool...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ok, I am confused.  The quickplay (and registration of servers) is for
  servers without mods, etc.  Which is why we only have one of our five
  servers in the quickplay registration.  Yet, the OTHER servers is
  where we
  get most of our traffic.  Your quickplay registration rules say
  something
  along the lines of either getting blacklisted or ignored if you have
  modded
  servers.
  So people who have fun modded servers are simply shit out of luck?  If
  this is not the case, then please, explain and give DETAILS of what we
  will
  need to do.  I don't mind registering my servers for the halloween event
  stuff, my community would love itbut if I get left out because
  we
  have mods, I think that's a bit crappy of valve.
  Let us know exactly what we need to do to participate please...thank
  you
  in advance.
  Jason
 
  On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Rob Liu robl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Why even bother trying to police it.  It's a holiday special events.
  People who's going to cheat/abuse it is still going get what they want
  in
  the end.
 
  On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Violent Crimes
  maxim_confus...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your friends
  to
  get the gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the
  system?
 
  
  From: Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.com
  To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
  hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server
  mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Cc: TF Team tft...@valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM
  Subject: [hlds] Halloween 2011
 
  We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near
  future
  and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random
  gift
  drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register their
  servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the
  Halloween
  maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your
  server
  will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
  traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift drop
  system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops
  and
  other potential value-adds in the future.
 
  You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live
  until
  next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined here.
 
  -Jon
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[hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-21 Thread Jon Lippincott
We're going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near future and 
wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random gift drops, but 
this year we are requiring that participants register their servers.  If you 
choose not to register, you can still run the Halloween maps, but no gifts will 
drop on your server.  By registering, your server will also be included in 
matchmaking, which will potentially drive traffic to you.  Note that cheating 
or otherwise abusing the gift drop system will result in losing your 
registration, access to gift drops and other potential value-adds in the future.

You still have plenty of time, as this change won't be going live until next 
week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined 
herehttps://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2825-AFGJ-3513#how.

-Jon
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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-21 Thread DontWannaName!
Are you going to whitelist cp_manor_event for just Halloween? Its currently
not enabled for match making in the FAQ.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.comwrote:

 We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near future
 and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random gift
 drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register their
 servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the Halloween
 maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your server
 will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
 traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift drop
 system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops and
 other potential value-adds in the future.

 ** **

 You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live until
 next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined 
 herehttps://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2825-AFGJ-3513#how
 .

 ** **

 -Jon

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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-21 Thread m33crob
So are you saying that operators such as myself who host custom maps are
completely SOL. I will register my server if needed for the event, however,
I don't register my servers because I would not get quickplay traffic
anyway.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.comwrote:

 We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near future
 and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random gift
 drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register their
 servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the Halloween
 maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your server
 will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
 traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift drop
 system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops and
 other potential value-adds in the future.

 ** **

 You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live until
 next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined 
 herehttps://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2825-AFGJ-3513#how
 .

 ** **

 -Jon

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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-21 Thread Yeef
Same here. I purposely didn't register my server for matchmaking, because
we're a relatively small group of players and aren't really interested in
matchmaking traffic since it's already common for people to have to wait for
a spot. I've asked my players if they're interested in the gift drops, but
I'm sure the majority will be. Is there a way to only be included in the
matchmaking during Halloween maps and remove the server from the pool during
every other map?

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:36 PM, m33crob ad...@m33crob.com wrote:

 So are you saying that operators such as myself who host custom maps are
 completely SOL. I will register my server if needed for the event, however,
 I don't register my servers because I would not get quickplay traffic
 anyway.

 On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.comwrote:

 We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near future
 and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random gift
 drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register their
 servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the Halloween
 maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your server
 will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
 traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift drop
 system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops and
 other potential value-adds in the future.

 ** **

 You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live until
 next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined 
 herehttps://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2825-AFGJ-3513#how
 .

 ** **

 -Jon

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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-21 Thread gameadmin
Set the cvar to disabled in server.cfg and enable in in the map-specific config 
file

Yeef va...@yeef.net wrote:

Same here. I purposely didn't register my server for matchmaking, because we're 
a relatively small group of players and aren't really interested in matchmaking 
traffic since it's already common for people to have to wait for a spot. I've 
asked my players if they're interested in the gift drops, but I'm sure the 
majority will be. Is there a way to only be included in the matchmaking during 
Halloween maps and remove the server from the pool during every other map?

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:36 PM, m33crob ad...@m33crob.com wrote:

So are you saying that operators such as myself who host custom maps are 
completely SOL. I will register my server if needed for the event, however, I 
don't register my servers because I would not get quickplay traffic anyway.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.com wrote:

We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near future and 
wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random gift drops, but 
this year we are requiring that participants register their servers.  If you 
choose not to register, you can still run the Halloween maps, but no gifts will 
drop on your server.  By registering, your server will also be included in 
matchmaking, which will potentially drive traffic to you.  Note that cheating 
or otherwise abusing the gift drop system will result in losing your 
registration, access to gift drops and other potential value-adds in the future.

 

You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live until next 
week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined here.

 

-Jon


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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-21 Thread Yeef
Didn't realize there was a cvar. tf_server_identity_disable_quickplay  for
those who aren't aware.

The other thing, though, is that we play with both weapon and damage spread
disabled. Would we also have to enable the damage spread for the Halloween
or could we simply add our server to the quickplay list and disqualify
ourselves for having damage spread off, but still receive gift drops since
the server is registered?

Hopefully John or someone else from Valve can clear this up.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:44 PM, gamead...@127001.org wrote:

 ** Set the cvar to disabled in server.cfg and enable in in the
 map-specific config file


 Yeef va...@yeef.net wrote:

 Same here. I purposely didn't register my server for matchmaking, because
 we're a relatively small group of players and aren't really interested in
 matchmaking traffic since it's already common for people to have to wait for
 a spot. I've asked my players if they're interested in the gift drops, but
 I'm sure the majority will be. Is there a way to only be included in the
 matchmaking during Halloween maps and remove the server from the pool during
 every other map?

 On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:36 PM, m33crob ad...@m33crob.com wrote:

 So are you saying that operators such as myself who host custom maps are
 completely SOL. I will register my server if needed for the event, however,
 I don't register my servers because I would not get quickplay traffic
 anyway.

 On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Jon Lippincott 
 j...@valvesoftware.comwrote:

 We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near
 future and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random
 gift drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register their
 servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the Halloween
 maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your server
 will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
 traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift drop
 system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops and
 other potential value-adds in the future.

 ** **

 You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live until
 next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined 
 herehttps://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2825-AFGJ-3513#how
 .

 ** **

 -Jon

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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-21 Thread Jeff Sugar
There seems to be some confusion as to the differences between registering
your server and enabling quickplay.

   - Your server must be registered to enable quickplay.
   - You don't have to enable quickplay if you register (use
   tf_server_identity_disable_quickplay 1)

So, in order to participate in the event, you must be *registered*, but yo
do *not* have to have quickplay enabled.

Hope this clears things up,
Jeff


On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Yeef va...@yeef.net wrote:

 Didn't realize there was a cvar. tf_server_identity_disable_quickplay  for
 those who aren't aware.

 The other thing, though, is that we play with both weapon and damage spread
 disabled. Would we also have to enable the damage spread for the Halloween
 or could we simply add our server to the quickplay list and disqualify
 ourselves for having damage spread off, but still receive gift drops since
 the server is registered?

 Hopefully John or someone else from Valve can clear this up.


 On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:44 PM, gamead...@127001.org wrote:

 ** Set the cvar to disabled in server.cfg and enable in in the
 map-specific config file


 Yeef va...@yeef.net wrote:

 Same here. I purposely didn't register my server for matchmaking, because
 we're a relatively small group of players and aren't really interested in
 matchmaking traffic since it's already common for people to have to wait for
 a spot. I've asked my players if they're interested in the gift drops, but
 I'm sure the majority will be. Is there a way to only be included in the
 matchmaking during Halloween maps and remove the server from the pool during
 every other map?

 On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:36 PM, m33crob ad...@m33crob.com wrote:

 So are you saying that operators such as myself who host custom maps are
 completely SOL. I will register my server if needed for the event, however,
 I don't register my servers because I would not get quickplay traffic
 anyway.

 On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.com
  wrote:

 We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near
 future and wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random
 gift drops, but this year we are requiring that participants register 
 their
 servers.  If you choose not to register, you can still run the Halloween
 maps, but no gifts will drop on your server.  By registering, your server
 will also be included in matchmaking, which will potentially drive
 traffic to you.  Note that cheating or otherwise abusing the gift drop
 system will result in losing your registration, access to gift drops and
 other potential value-adds in the future.

 ** **

 You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live until
 next week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined 
 herehttps://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2825-AFGJ-3513#how
 .

 ** **

 -Jon

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Re: [hlds] Halloween 2011

2011-10-21 Thread Violent Crimes
Would setting up a 10 person private server for you and your friends to get the 
gifts and not have to deal with other people be abusing the system?




From: Jon Lippincott j...@valvesoftware.com
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Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:32 PM
Subject: [hlds] Halloween 2011


We’re going to be launching some new Halloween content in the near future and 
wanted to give you all a quick heads-up.  There will be random gift drops, but 
this year we are requiring that participants register their servers.  If you 
choose not to register, you can still run the Halloween maps, but no gifts will 
drop on your server.  By registering, your server will also be included in 
matchmaking, which will potentially drive traffic to you.  Note that cheating 
or otherwise abusing the gift drop system will result in losing your 
registration, access to gift drops and other potential value-adds in the future.
 
You still have plenty of time, as this change won’t be going live until next 
week.  Registration is quick and simple, and is outlined here.
 
-Jon
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