[Hornlist] Conductors of amateur groups

2006-10-10 Thread Wendell Rider
On Oct 9, 2006, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: message: 3 date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:48:11 EDT from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: Re: [Hornlist] Conductors of amateur ensembles I used to help out with a local amateur orchestra, the conductor of which was notorious - he used to yell and

[Hornlist] Conductors, etc.

2006-10-10 Thread Wendell Rider
message: 5 date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 13:01:52 +0200 from: hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: [Hornlist] Conductors etc I try it again to incend a fire(works) about conductors their means of interpretation, as the first attempt resulted in zero effect but one single reply. Are you to cautious to talk

RE: [Hornlist] Conductors of amateur groups

2006-10-10 Thread hans
Hello Wendell, Lawrence said it streight: The conductor-pigs do better concerts than those who just like to please the orchestra with their sweet talk. Personally, I prefer the bad people in front, as they keep all high alert prepared, so to make best quality music. Never had any problems with

Re: [Hornlist] Conductors etc

2006-10-10 Thread Linda Sherman
hans wrote: What makes a good conductor Speaking strictly as an audience member, the most reliable factor that always seems to separate the good conductors from the not-so-good is how they use tempo. The good ones just seem to have the right feel for the tempo and the general flow

[Hornlist] Double Change Valve

2006-10-10 Thread Linda Sherman
Okay, another probably dumb question from a non-player: I was poking around on the web and came across Robert Ward's web site where he lists the horns played by the San Franscisco S.O.'s horn section, and one of the models was described as an old Paxman double change valve descant. I can

RE: [Hornlist] Conductors etc

2006-10-10 Thread hans
The tempos stay in certain relations each other (ganzzahlig), that´s it. Once a conductor has understood this, he is good. Well, can you describe clean colours ? Colours which you can find in nature ? If you can describe them, you have to transpose that to music. That´s it. Some have this ability

RE: [Hornlist] Double Change Valve

2006-10-10 Thread hans
Alexander once used a double-change-valve for the Bb-highF horns. They were two single valves working simultaneously connected by a linkage. = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [Hornlist] Double Change Valve

2006-10-10 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 6:16 AM -0700 10/10/06, Linda Sherman wrote: . . . what's a double change valve? One valve sends the vibrations from the leadpipe to either the Bb side or the high F side. The other valve sends the vibrations from either the Bb side or the high F side onward to the bell. These two

Re: [Hornlist] Conductors of amateur groups

2006-10-10 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 10/10/2006 10:41:01 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And your point is what? Wendell Rider My point is that in this particular case once the conductor was calmed down the performances suffered. I've seen similar things happen with sportsmen. Cheers,

Re: [Hornlist] Double Change Valve

2006-10-10 Thread James Wester
Linda, I'm going to answer this even though it has been answered already, only because the explainations to me weren't clear and I know what they were talking about, so I figured you might not of gotten the jist of it. Double change valve refers to the obvious, there are 2 changes valves.

[Hornlist] Re: recording of Franz Strauss Theme and Variations

2006-10-10 Thread phirsch
Yesterday, I wrote: I'm just saying that you oughtn't fret over whether or not you have a good recording; in this case any that doesn't willfully misrepresent what Franz put to paper (did I once read that this was actually written by Richard, or am I mixing this up with something else?) will do

RE: [Hornlist] Conductors of amateur ensembles

2006-10-10 Thread Paul Kampen
Message text written by The Horn List he used to yell and bawl at his players and more than once I saw grown men and women crying behind their stands. Dear All This is very similar to a conductor (once a leading horn player and now deceased) for whom I played both as a student and in my

RE: [Hornlist] Double Change Valve

2006-10-10 Thread hans
Hello James, and how about the compensating bb/high-F ??? With double change valves ? Or on a Viennese horn ? Put this in comparison let us know your thoughts. Great ! Next time we have to explain that the air flows from the front end - the mouthpiece stuck on the lead pipe - through the horn to

RE: [Hornlist] Double Change Valve

2006-10-10 Thread hans
Sorry, did I get it right, that the both valves are sending out vibrations. Are they vibrators ? And is that the source of the notorious vibrato often heard at delicate horn soli ? Ooops, I opened a worm can, perhaps. How to overcome this effect ? Very simply, start the vibrato by yourself to use

[Hornlist] Embouchure Dystonia

2006-10-10 Thread James Wester
I only recently found out what the heck was wrong with me. Focal dystonia. More specifically Embouchure Dystonia. Mine came about from trying to learn the bag pipes. The extreme clamping pressure needed to seal the mouthpipe on the pipes completely obliterated my horn embouchure. I didn't

Re: [Hornlist] Conductors of amateur ensembles

2006-10-10 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 10/10/2006 16:09:28 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He conducted a very well known amateur orchestra in the north Cheshire commuter belt where many of the Manchester professional community (medical practitioners, lawyers, university lecturers, senior

[Hornlist] Things Straussian

2006-10-10 Thread William Melton
Of many things mentioned by Prof. Pizka, this nugget provoked interest: My source is reliable as the owner was just 17 years younger than Franz Strauss=B4 son Richard ... The two scores are part of the heritage of the famous horn player who=B4s biography I=B4m writing at the moment ... More

[Hornlist] Air travel with your axe redux

2006-10-10 Thread phirsch
Well, this topic hasn't been hashed over on this list for at least a day or two, so I guess it's time to revisit once again by inviting you to follow the link to today's NY Times online: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/10/nyregion/10musician.html I can't say that I totally sympathize with one

[Hornlist] Break in embouchure

2006-10-10 Thread MARKSUERON
When I descend on a g scale from space above staff, I feel like I would like to reposition my lips around the d. Should this be done, or do you need to play through it with air? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at

RE: [Hornlist] Embouchure Dystonia

2006-10-10 Thread Bill Gross
One is reminded of a statement by H (for Horseface) Allen Smith, the definition of a gentleman is someone who can play the bagpipes but doesn't. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Wester Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:17 PM To:

RE: [Hornlist] Conductors etc

2006-10-10 Thread Bill Gross
Where is the Cabbage in all this? I'm sure he would be willing to explain to us just exactly what atomic structure is needed to make a good conductor. I'm sure it has something to do with the distribution of electrons in the nuclear structure. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Hornlist] Air travel with your axe redux

2006-10-10 Thread hans
Thank you, Peter, for this N.Y.Times story. But something is strange with that story: why was the trumpet case on the luggage belt ? Hand luggage is not on any luggage belt except the very short belt through the x-ray-machine. I just can repeat here, curing symptoms is the wrong way, as one must