[Hornlist] Hand in Telemann

2008-03-12 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Sorry to hassle you with this one - A few days ago I posted a question about the use of the hand in music by Handel, Telemann etc and didn't receceive a single response (which is unusual) Just in case it didn't go through or in case I didn't receive any replies that were sent, could I

Re: [Hornlist] Wah-wahs

2008-03-12 Thread David A. Jewell
The learned Prof C wrote Even if your horn has a conical bore, just install an Amado key or two, and you won't have to worry about wah wah any more. to which Paxmaha, ever eager for knowledge, responded: Cabbage- do you know of any valve that will help when the player has to go wah-wah at

Re: [Hornlist] Hand in Telemann

2008-03-12 Thread Aleks Ozolins
Hi Lawrence, I read your original post but was reluctant to answer because I'm by no means an expert on the subject, however, since no one else is weighing in, I will say what I can. Handel's music of that period is of a different nature than Telemann's in regard to use of the horn. Take

Re: [Hornlist] Transcriptions

2008-03-12 Thread Eric James
Gary, Point well taken, although there's probably no woodwind quintet I'd like to play (brass quintet either, for that matter). But do you happen to know where I can find the van Stumpen piece? It does sound intriguing. Eric James - Original Message From: Gary Greene [EMAIL

Re: [Hornlist] Transcriptions

2008-03-12 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 7:37 AM -0700 3/12/08, Eric James wrote: But do you happen to know where I can find the van Stumpen piece? It does sound intriguing. This fine work may be found at http://www.figmentpubs.com. Then again, maybe not. Carlberg -- Carlberg Jones Skype - carlbergbmug Cornista - Orquesta

Re: [Hornlist] Hand in Telemann

2008-03-12 Thread Jerryold99
In a message dated 3/12/2008 4:02:31 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My understanding is that hand horn technique did not come in until later, but I have seen/heard several performances of, for example, the Water Music, where hand horn technique was clearly

[Hornlist] Transcriptions

2008-03-12 Thread AllFlaExteriors
Transcriptions While agreeable that their are many wonderful pieces available for Horn taken in context they are written, music is meant to be played and enjoyed by all. As a musician we are part of a whole, but at the same time always seeking to gain new experiences. Transcriptions are

Re: [Hornlist] Transcriptions

2008-03-12 Thread Jonathan West
I've recently been listening to quite a bit of Beethoven and Mozart chamber music. It's amazing how many of their own tunes they recycled. Take a couple of examples in Mozart, the Theme Variations from the Gran Partita serenade pops up with entirely different instrumentation as a movement of the

Re: [Hornlist] Transcriptions

2008-03-12 Thread Richard V. West
Jonathan: I'm not a musicologist, but I believe that the string quintet version of the C minor wind serenade was created subsequent to the original (wind) version we all know and love. Probably for the same reasons that Mozart tried to create wind versions of excerpts from his operas (I

Re: [Hornlist] Hand in Telemann

2008-03-12 Thread Michiel van der Linden
Should the hand be used? Most likely not, since most evidence points clearly in the way that the instruments were played without hand in the bell, arguably even well into the classical period. The dilemma is, that the real historical way of doing it properly is lipping the out of tune notes into

Re: [Hornlist] Transcriptions

2008-03-12 Thread Eric James
In spite of all that has been written on the subject, there is still no hard evidence that Mozart ever got around to arrangeing Entfuehrung for winds. Eric James - Original Message From: Richard V. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Wednesday, March

Re: [Hornlist] Transcriptions

2008-03-12 Thread David Goldberg
This thread came up after I recommended various pieces that hornists can play with other instruments, in their original form. Only one of the suggestions was a transcription. The differences between playing a transcription v. playing an original part for an alien instrument are perhaps not

RE: [Hornlist] Transcriptions

2008-03-12 Thread John Baumgart
Not to mention Ravel's orchestration of Pictures at an Exhibition. To invoke one of the 20th century's great composers, Duke Ellington, If it sounds good, it is good. John Baumgart -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Greene Sent:

[Hornlist] Re: Hand in Telemann

2008-03-12 Thread Marc Gelfo
I'm currently playing the Telemann 2 horn concerto from Tafelmusik. All the notes are natural notes, with the exception of one (written) F natural, top of the staff. It comes right after an F# so Telemann must have expected a distinction. However, since that F# (11th harmonic) is actually in

Re: [Hornlist] Transcriptions

2008-03-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But we have a vast source of original music for or with our instrument employed. I protest only against recommendations of all this baroque literature. Why ? O.k., is higher a multitude of notes of advantage for our instrument, as too many people just struggle with the most simple musical