[Hornlist] solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread Prof. Michael Enright
More solo beginnings off the top of my head:Britten Serenade (horn, duh)Rossini William Tell (cello)Moussorksky-Ravel Pictures at an Exhibition (trumpet)Sibelius Symphony #1 (clarinet)Beethoven Piano Concerto #4 (piano)Beethoven Fantasy for Piano, Chorus, and Orchestra (piano)Prokofiev Violin

Re: [Hornlist] (Czech) recordings

2009-06-29 Thread Richard V. West
Simon: It was I who sent that post. This happens when something called MIME format intervenes in some email portals. It came through fine on mine. However, this is all alien territory to me, so hopefully one of the computer gurus on the list can explain this particular cybernetic dissonance.

Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread Tim Costen
Le Chasseur Maudit (Caesar Franck) - 4th horn solo ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread Jeremy Cucco
Well...allow me to redeem myself: Liszt's Orpheus Mahler Symphony No 7 Mvmnt 2 Hanson Fanfare for the Signal Corps Cheers- J On Jun 29, 2009, at 12:48 AM, Robert N. Ward rnw...@comcast.net wrote: Bzzzt - there is a harp note with the flute's first note. B On Jun 28, 2009, at 8:38 PM,

Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread Jeremy Cucco
Let's not forget at least one movement of Symphonie Fantastique. On Jun 29, 2009, at 12:48 AM, Robert N. Ward rnw...@comcast.net wrote: Bzzzt - there is a harp note with the flute's first note. B On Jun 28, 2009, at 8:38 PM, Jeremy Cucco wrote: The Moldau? Or is there a triangle with

Re: [Hornlist] Horn-Soprano Duet

2009-06-29 Thread hestekin
Nocturnes by Cooke - a charming set of 6 (?) pieces - writing from home, and all my rep is in my office Berioz - le jeun patre breton (spelling may be suspect) - from les nuits d'ete lots of nice things by Franz Lachner All quite playable/ singable, and great fun to do. Kjellrun Quoting Carol

Re: [Hornlist] Horn-Soprano Duet

2009-06-29 Thread hestekin
Spelling definitely suspect - Ber*L*ioz! Quoting heste...@mun.ca: Nocturnes by Cooke - a charming set of 6 (?) pieces - writing from home, and all my rep is in my office Berioz - le jeun patre breton (spelling may be suspect) - from les nuits d'ete lots of nice things by Franz Lachner

Re: [Hornlist] OT: Schubert

2009-06-29 Thread Bill Tyler
--- On Mon, 6/29/09, Steve Haflich s...@franz.com wrote: Schubert's use of compound measures is worth study.  Compare the very odd initial statement of the theme in the Unfinished.  When I was in a grad school seminar Prof Maury Yeston (the same dude as the composer of _Nine_) was

Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread Steve Freides
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Jeremy Cuccojer...@sublymerecords.com wrote: The Moldau?  Or is there a triangle with the flute? I'm pretty sure there's something else (is it a triangle? OK) with the flute right at the very beginning. I teach this piece in Music Appreciation regularly but I

Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread David Lamb
Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin with a one single, solo instrument. Bernstein: Facsimile David Lamb in Seattle ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at

Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread eww02
what country's national anthem is based on the main theme from the Moldau? Israel--Hatikvah EWW -Original Message- From: Steve Freides steve.frei...@gmail.com To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Mon, Jun 29, 2009 9:29 am Subject: Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings On Sun,

[Hornlist] Re: OT Solo Beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread John Schreckengost
I haven't seen this one: John Adams; Short Ride in a Fast Machine (wood block solo) John Schreckengost Chicago, IL ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at

Re: [Hornlist] Re: OT Solo Beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread Jeremy Cucco
Oh...what about Venus (Holst)? And the final movement of Mahler 5? On Jun 29, 2009, at 10:47 AM, John Schreckengost jgschr...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't seen this one: John Adams; Short Ride in a Fast Machine (wood block solo) John Schreckengost Chicago, IL

Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread Steve Freides
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM, ew...@aol.com wrote: what country's national anthem is based on the main theme from the Moldau? Israel--Hatikvah EWW Yup! With an interesting change in meter but the same basic shape to the melody. -S- -Original Message- From: Steve Freides

Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread Steve Haflich
Kit Wolf c.j.l.w...@newcastle.ac.uk wrote: I don't know whether individual movements should count, but Gilbert and Sullivan's HMS Pinafore, 2nd act starts with a horn solo - as I recall. Bob asked about compositions for orchestra, and HMS Pinafore hardly qualifies. It is an operetta, and

[Hornlist] Hoyer 5802 CK

2009-06-29 Thread Laura Briney
I am looking at buying this model and I'm looking for any information from anyone who has had any experience with this horn. Any and all information would be helpful. Thank you. ~Laura B. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at

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2009-06-29 Thread Kit Wolf
Kit Wolf c.j.l.w...@newcastle.ac.uk wrote: I don't know whether individual movements should count, but Gilbert and Sullivan's HMS Pinafore, 2nd act starts with a horn solo - as I recall. Bob asked about compositions for orchestra, and HMS Pinafore hardly qualifies. It is an operetta,

Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread David Goldberg
It's a fine semantic point, whether compositions for orchestra implies for only orchestra, thus making it necessary for Bob to specify concerti as exceptions which he wants to also count. But words mean what we want them to mean. We in this case, means Bob. So maybe Bob wants us to stretch

Re: [Hornlist] Re: solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread Steve Freides
Is it really that large a collection? I'm no historian but, if memory serves, the tradition of classical concertos was that first movements were in a sort of double Sonata form, or at least there was a double exposition, and the first one was the orchestra, and only then the solist. I'm thinking

[Hornlist] solo beginnings - the list so far

2009-06-29 Thread Robert N. Ward
Hi all, Hope you have enjoyed this little exercise - here is the list so far: Beethoven Violin concerto (tympani) Rachmaninov Piano concerto #2 (solo piano) Britten Serenade (horn, duh) Rossini William Tell (cello) Moussorksky-Ravel Pictures at an Exhibition (trumpet) Sibelius Symphony #1

Re: [Hornlist] solo beginnings - the list so far

2009-06-29 Thread Debbie Schmidt
Bernstein: On the Waterfront (great solo) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] solo beginnings - the list so far

2009-06-29 Thread Robert N. Ward
Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner! On Jun 29, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Debbie Schmidt wrote: Bernstein: On the Waterfront (great solo) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at

Re: [Hornlist] solo beginnings - the list so far

2009-06-29 Thread Jeremy Cucco
While we're on the subject of Bernstein, his second symphony (Age of Anxiety) starts with solo instruments on both the first and second movements (clarinet and piano respectively). Albeit, in both cases, very briefly. Robert N. Ward wrote: Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner! On Jun 29,

Re: [Hornlist] solo beginnings - the list so far

2009-06-29 Thread Dan Malloy Jr
Crap...should have gotten that one since we just played it this past season... :-/ Dan On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Robert N. Ward rnw...@comcast.net wrote: Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner! On Jun 29, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Debbie Schmidt wrote: Bernstein: On the Waterfront (great

Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
This is interesting, as I suspected another country to be falsely mentioned. I did not have the Hatikva in my immediate memory, but heard the choir version from this page: http://www.science.co.il/Israel-anthem.asp The Moldau theme is not of Bohemian-Moravian origins. Smetana was a choir master

Re: [Hornlist] Hoyer 5802 CK

2009-06-29 Thread Tina Barkan
Hi Laura, I have a 5801 PMAL that I bought in December 08. The horn has a lovely sound and great valves but it is significantly sharp. At IHS, all of the Hoyer horns of this model (I don't know if they checked their other models) were sharp. Hoyer is making new tuning slides for me but I

[Hornlist] horn player seeks group in northern NJ

2009-06-29 Thread Kerri Bridges
Hi all I'm back in NJ after a time abroad and keen to get playing again. Is there any community group in the northern NJ area (Bergen country or close) looking for a horn? I can also play clarinet if necessary. Thanks, Kerri ___ post:

Re: [Hornlist] Hoyer 5802 CK

2009-06-29 Thread Jeremy Cucco
I'm curious... I tried a couple 5802s in Macomb - both were pretty well in tune and both were quite fine instruments. Granted, I did have the main slides pulled about an inch each, but I wouldn't want it any other way. (What if the orchestra tunes sharp or drifts sharp?) Are your main

Re: [Hornlist] solo beginnings - the list so far

2009-06-29 Thread Steve Haflich
Bob -- Your list missed the Grieg Piano Concerto (tympani). ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

[Hornlist] two recommendations

2009-06-29 Thread Robert N. Ward
Hi again all, Hope you enjoyed the solo beginnings thread. Now, I have two things to recommend to everyone. The first is a book, written by David McGill, principal bassoon of the Chicago Symphony. It's called Sound in Motion - A Performer's Guide to Greater Musical Expression. Someone

Re: [Hornlist] Hoyer 5802 CK

2009-06-29 Thread Tina Barkan
They're pulled all the way out and the horn's still sharp. :( With all the slides pushed in the horn's at 452. For a European horn I would have expected around 445. The Hoyer engineer who was there from Germany agreed that the horn was too sharp. I think what surprised them was that all

Re: [Hornlist] two recommendations

2009-06-29 Thread Jeremy Cucco
Bob - Excellent suggestion - David's book is fantastic and has honestly made me re-evaluate how I play and practice. After having read his book, I can say that my practice time is more efficient and I am a far better player. I had the rare opportunity of doing the audio broadcasting for a

Re: [Hornlist] solo beginnings - the list so far

2009-06-29 Thread Per Ottar Gjerstad
Now that we have been very clever in finding these solos at the beginning, I wonder if we can turn it all backwards and see if can get some solo endings on a list. Per Ottar ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at

Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread HornCabbage
My Concerto for Brass Trio and Orchestra starts with a wood block solo. And my Concertini for Toy Piano and Orchestra starts with a cello solo. Gotta go, Cabbage ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

RE: [Hornlist] Hoyer 5802 CK

2009-06-29 Thread John Kowalchuk
Were all these horns sharp when others played them? John Kowalchuk Maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes Oshawa, Ontario http://kowalchukmutes.com Canadians don't surf the net, we paddle it. -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+hornontario=yahoo...@music.memphis.edu

Re: [Hornlist] Hoyer 5802 CK

2009-06-29 Thread Michiel van der Linden
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 21:19, John Kowalchukhornonta...@yahoo.ca wrote: Were all these horns sharp when others played them? John Kowalchuk Maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes Oshawa, Ontario     http://kowalchukmutes.com Canadians don't surf the net, we paddle it. I have a 6801,

Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread Bill Tyler
Is it too late for another one? If I remember correctly ... Sibelius Symphony #7 ... tympani --- On Sun, 6/28/09, Robert N. Ward rnw...@comcast.net wrote: From: Robert N. Ward rnw...@comcast.net Subject: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings To: Horn Mailing List - old horn@music.memphis.edu,

Re: [Hornlist] solo beginnings - the list so far

2009-06-29 Thread Thomas Jones
Scheherazade, 4th horn end of first movement. -Nicholas - Original Message From: Per Ottar Gjerstad potgj...@frisurf.no To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:15:51 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] solo beginnings - the list so far Now that we have been

Re: [Hornlist] Hoyer 5802 CK

2009-06-29 Thread Tina Barkan
Yes, as far as I know all of the Hoyer folks at the show, including their engineer, played all of the PMAL's that were there and found them to be sharp. I know that the Hoyer engineer was on the phone with their factory in Germany immediately after he tested the horns so something is

Re: [Hornlist] Hoyer 5802 CK

2009-06-29 Thread Debbie Schmidt
If this a Systemic design issue maybe the Hoyer folks should be talking replacement as opposed to longer slides Debbie Schmidt Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Tina Barkan tina.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, as far as I know all of the Hoyer folks at the show, including

[Hornlist] Re: solo beginnings - the list so far

2009-06-29 Thread Steve Burian
It probably doesn't count because of the tutti orchestra hit on the first beat, but Tchaikovsky's Second Symphony also begins with a nice unaccompanied horn solo. Steve _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®.

Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread David Lamb
I almost forgot... the second movement (Vivace) of my piece for horn and chamber orchestra begins with a horn solo. If you want to hear it, go to www.classical.net, in the upper RH corner where it says Site search search for Lamb. Next scroll down to #9 and click on MP3. There you will find

Re: [Hornlist] horn player seeks group in northern NJ

2009-06-29 Thread Steve Freides
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Kerri Bridgesbridg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I'm back in NJ after a time abroad and keen to get playing again. Is there any community group in the northern NJ area (Bergen country or close) looking for a horn? I can also play clarinet if necessary. Kerri,

[Hornlist] Re: solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread Howard Sanner
Mahler 4 starts with sleigh bells (or whatever they're really called). The Rachmaninoff 2nd piano concerto starts, like the Beethoven 4th (my favorite piece of music), with the solo piano. Prelude to Act I of Tristan starts with a cello solo. Howard Sanner hornl...@terrier.ampexguy.com

Re: [Hornlist] FS: Giardinelli S15 and G17 mpc

2009-06-29 Thread Steve Freides
Mailed from the Post Office today via First Class, you should see in a few days. Please drop a line when they get there. -S- On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Benjamin Irvine-Scottbisonh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Steve, sorry for the delay, long day at work. I will do paypal in  a moment.

Fwd: [Hornlist] two recommendations

2009-06-29 Thread Martin Bender
In a pinch, Mac users can avail themselves of the Photo Booth program; the sound is not the greatest, but it will give you an idea of how you sound. Happy practising, martin bender Begin forwarded message: From: Robert N. Ward rnw...@comcast.net Date: June 29, 2009 2:58:43 PM EDT (CA) To:

Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread Steve Freides
Klaus, fascinating - thank you. -S- On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerreyorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote: This is interesting, as I suspected another country to be falsely mentioned. I did not have the Hatikva in my immediate memory, but heard the choir version from this

[Hornlist] Re: OT: solo beginnings, Re: Re:

2009-06-29 Thread Larry Jellison
Professor Cabbage wrote: My Concerto for Brass Trio and Orchestra starts with a wood block solo. And my Concertini for Toy Piano and Orchestra starts with a cello solo. ___ My Concerto for Horn, Audience, with Seasonal Variations calls for selected

[Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 78, Issue 31

2009-06-29 Thread Jim McDermott
Not having ever played in a real orchestra, I do remember a band arrangement of Greensleeves that required me to play a 4th line D all by myself at the beginning for two measures. I only fracked it once in 6 performances.(g) Also it was just mentioned here is the beginning of the new Star

[Hornlist] Re: Solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread Joel Lazar
To clarify, if it hasn't already been done: Moldau does begin with a harp harmonic along with the flute entry. HOWEVER: Solo harp [second harp, in fact], at the start of Vysherad [accent omitted] and clearly in emulation of Smetana: Solo harp at the start of Dvorak's Slavonic Rhapsody #3

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread Dan Phillips
On Jun 29, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Joel Lazar wrote: No doubt more to come! Timpani solo to begin the Burleske for piano and orchestra of Richard Strauss. Dan ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at

[Hornlist] Excerpt from A Lutheran's Guide to the Orchestra by Garrison Keillor Options

2009-06-29 Thread Steve Freides
In this much longer piece, Garrison Keillor, after a short introduction, discusses each instrument of the orchestra and its suitability for a Lutheran. For whatever reason, he takes on the French Horn first, so here it is, from the beginning: -S- A Lutheran's Guide to the Orchestra by Garrison

[Hornlist] OT: Moving melody

2009-06-29 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
In another context we touched upon the Israeli hymn Hatikva being inspired by Smetana’s Moldau. I unloaded old trivia by telling about Smetana having heard Ack, Värmeland du sköna during his Gothenburg years. But things took one more twist:   I wanted to find the music for that Swedish tune on

Re: [Hornlist] OT: Moving melody

2009-06-29 Thread David Goldberg
Good sleuthing, Klaus! I googled Let op u saeck and found this: http://www.dbnl.org/tekst/duys001oude02_01/duys001oude02_01_0211.htm David G Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: In another context we touched upon the Israeli hymn Hatikva being inspired by Smetana’s Moldau. I unloaded old trivia

Re: [Hornlist] OT: Moving melody

2009-06-29 Thread David Lamb
I know the tune of Värmeland du sköna and I must confess that I don't see the relationship to the big tune in the Moldau. What am I missing here? David Lamb in Seattle ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at

Re: [Hornlist] OT: Moving melody

2009-06-29 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
Thanks for finding that music! We are down to the interval progression of the first phrase, but that portion is shared by all of the samples coming up through our discussions within the last day. Absolutely no reason to ward off threads like the one initiated by Mr. Ward. Klaus --- On Tue,

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Solo beginnings

2009-06-29 Thread Hans Pizka
How about Verdi´s Don Carlo. The classic version most played begins with the solo horn quartet. Richard Strauss Silent woman starts with the solohorn, Richard Wagner´s Liebesverbot starts with Castagnettes solo; more to come Wednesday, when back home after 4 weeks+ travel in Asia. Regards

Re: [Hornlist] Hoyer 5802 CK

2009-06-29 Thread Leigh Alexander
Laura; I have a 5802CK I purchased from Ken Pope at IHS '09. I love it and the intonation is fine. Leigh Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Laura Briney wrote: I am looking at buying this model and I'm looking for any information from anyone who has had any experience

[Hornlist] Was solo beginnings Smetana and Hatikvah

2009-06-29 Thread Steven Ovitsky
What country's national anthem is based on the main theme from the Moldau? Israel--Hatikvah Yup! With an interesting change in meter but the same basic shape to the melody. It is too simplistic to say that Hatikvah is based on Smetana's Vltava. The

Re: [Hornlist] solo beginnings - the list so far

2009-06-29 Thread Jay Anderson
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Robert N. Wardrnw...@comcast.net wrote: Hi all, Hope you have enjoyed this little exercise - here is the list so far: ... Unfortunately Liszt's Symphony Poem No.4 Orpheus begins with horns 1 and 2 playing on octave concert G's. I asked the same question over