Re: [Hornlist] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register

2007-09-27 Thread Jonathan West
But we teach them in a wrong way just fingerings instead make them able to understand the harmonic series the relations of the tones each other. I remember at about age 10 working out the basis of the Bb side fingerings by myself and carefully drawing a chart that showed how the Bb

RE: [Hornlist] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register

2007-09-27 Thread hans
] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register But we teach them in a wrong way just fingerings instead make them able to understand the harmonic series the relations of the tones each other. I remember at about age 10 working out the basis of the Bb side fingerings by myself and carefully

Re: [Hornlist] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register

2007-09-27 Thread dalleyhn
I was taught to take advantage of the alternate fingering possibilities of both the F and B flat sides of the standard double horn. And depending how you tune the 3rd valve slides of both horns can have a lot of influence on which fingering to use. I personally tune the third valve slide of

Re: [Hornlist] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register

2007-09-26 Thread Richard
Jonathan West wrote: On 25/09/2007, Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know my son's teacher wanted him to learn a single fingering for every note on the horn to avoid confusion. Unless there is more to it than you have described here, I would respectfully suggest that the

Re: [Hornlist] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register

2007-09-26 Thread Jonathan West
When I was in college and studying with Nolan Miller of the Philadelphia orchestra, I would sometimes stumble when playing because, knowing and using all the available fingerings, I would freeze trying to pick the right one, even after practicing a piece numerous times. His recommendation was to

RE: [Hornlist] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register

2007-09-26 Thread hans
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan West Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register When I was in college and studying with Nolan Miller of the Philadelphia orchestra, I would sometimes stumble

[Hornlist] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register

2007-09-25 Thread Beth Duhon
With the recent activity on the list, I'm a little scared to post but here goes... Hornists, Will some of you please discuss your rationale for fingerings in the Low C#- F register? I know there are no absolutes, but I was taught to primarily use B-flat fingerings in that

Re: [Hornlist] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register

2007-09-25 Thread Jonathan West
Will some of you please discuss your rationale for fingerings in the Low C#- F register? In terms of scales, in my opinion students should practice in three ways 1. Everything on the F side 2. Everything on the Bb side except for notes that can't be reached on the Bb side 3.

RE: [Hornlist] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register

2007-09-25 Thread Steve Freides
. -S- -Original Message- From: Jonathan West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 4:40 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register Will some of you please discuss your rationale for fingerings

RE: [Hornlist] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register

2007-09-25 Thread Fred Baucom
: [Hornlist] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register Will some of you please discuss your rationale for fingerings in the Low C#- F register? In terms of scales, in my opinion students should practice in three ways 1. Everything on the F side 2. Everything on the Bb side except

Re: [Hornlist] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register

2007-09-25 Thread Jonathan West
On 25/09/2007, Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, don't you think for a sixth grader, that's asking too much? No I don't. Of course, 6th graders wouldn't be expected to practice all the more obscure scales, but if they have a double horn, then I think that it is reasonable that

RE: [Hornlist] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register

2007-09-25 Thread G
I use whichever fingering sounds best, in keeping with the demands of the music. I'm playing fourth on 1812, and it's all B side, baby. The opposite is true as well...there are times when I use the F side in the treble staff. If it sounds better, then that is what I do. Like Mr Baucom said,