Re: [Hornlist] Re: Inquiry on another topic

2003-10-24 Thread Mark Louttit
We musicians have always been in the lead when it comes to ignoring race. B.B. Bill, Maybe yes, maybe no. Read Willie Ruff's autobiography Call to Assembly. Even as recently as the late 1940's it was impossible or next to impossible for an Afro-American to get a job in a major orchestra. The

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Inquiry on another topic

2003-10-24 Thread Tom Warner
On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 06:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case you haven't noticed the change over the years, good Americans have learned to note cultural differences, not racial differences. Here, South of LA, it couldn't be more obvious. Just walk around the fashion malls. The

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Inquiry on another topic

2003-10-24 Thread Clayton
Clayton Whetmore, here: Mark Louttit wrote: We musicians have always been in the lead when it comes to ignoring race. B.B. Bill, Maybe yes, maybe no. Even as recently as the late 1940's it was impossible or next to impossible for an Afro-American to get a job in a major orchestra. The

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Inquiry on another topic

2003-10-24 Thread David Jewell
I think it was either Howard Wall or Alan Spanjer. Did you notice the big guy seemed not so big? Still quite a bit like Jessie Ventura, but not as much as he used to. paxmaha Leigh Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, And yet, last night the NYPhil, on the roof, playing Mozart, on David

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Inquiry on another topic

2003-10-24 Thread Billbamberg
Your points are all well taken, but certainly more pessimistic than mine. When I was in grade school, in Maryland, in the fifties, segregation was the accepted norm. As a kid, I never thought to question it. it just went on mindlessly. Now, the major barriers have been brought down. I try

[Hornlist] Re: Inquiry on another topic

2003-10-23 Thread Robert Marlatt
And we haven't come very far in 75 years. Sadly, I can only think of maybe half a dozen African American classical musicians working in Boston. Half of this number are members of the BSO. Bob Marlatt Boston MA Phil writes: John Mason, are you still on this list? I am and sadly know nothing

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Inquiry on another topic

2003-10-23 Thread Billbamberg
In case you haven't noticed the change over the years, good Americans have learned to note cultural differences, not racial differences. Here, South of LA, it couldn't be more obvious. Just walk around the fashion malls. The crowds appear to be international, all sizes, shapes, and colors.

[Hornlist] Re: Inquiry on another topic

2003-10-22 Thread John Mason
Phil writes: John Mason, are you still on this list? I am and sadly know nothing about the Victorian Concert Orchestra; Boston, Mass.; conducted by Clarence Cameron White, 1912-1918. Amy writes: I found a paragraph on this group in a book by Maude Hare, Negro Musicians and Their Music,

[Hornlist] Re: Inquiry on another topic

2003-10-22 Thread phirsch
Thanks to Amy McBeth, Bob Marlatt and John Mason for supplying some very promising information regarding the Victorian Concert Orchestra or places where I might do further research. Also, to Bill Bamberg; the horn being held by the player is fairly visible (or was when I was looking at it