This was somewhat discussed recently on one of the lists and I figure I'll
add my 2 cents here.
While I don't have perfect pitch, I can recognize most if not all pitches
whether it be something I played or something I heard live or on a
recording. Sadly, I can't do it all the time and more often
From: Steve Burian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An F# in the key of D major might be as much as 30 cents higher than the Gb
in the key of Eb minor.
A good thought, Steve, but you stated it exactly backwards. A just
major third is about 386 cents and a just monor third is about 316
cents.
This is all perfect, but far too confusing most people, who
struggle from note to note, cracking more notes than written
or splitting every note ever second time (a bit exaggerated
but true !) or worse splitting three notes out of two
written notes.
The more important thing is it, to give the
Snip:
One strange thing I am aware of where harmonics are concerned is the
annoying 60 cycle hum generated by fluorescent lights. We once had
a college professor in counterpoint who would insist upon turning
the classroom lights off because the 60 cycle hum disturbed him.
This did not make
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Jay K wrote
My (amateur and self-taught) understanding of ET piano
tuning is that only the octaves are really intented to sound
'correct'. All the other intervals are slightly off, but in
such a way that regardless of the key, similar intervals have
the same
All this pitch discussion reminds me of an aural tape produced many
years ago by the Piano Technicians Guild. I had a copy of it borrowed
from a PTG member and used it in some of my classes when I was
teaching. It was entitled The Building Blocks of Music and compared
a number of tuning
David:
Yeah, what he said. The good news is, for working up a difficult
piece at home you can tolerate some audio funnies (audities?). The
bad news is, vocal high range to low range is a long way for these
programs, and piano is one of the hardest instruments to shift
satisfactorily.
The newsgroup news:24hoursupport.helpdesk is a good starting point to ask
about specific software's legitimacy and also to ask for recommendations of
more specific newsgroups. Usenet is a good resource albeit one with a poor
signal-to-noise ratio at times. news:rec.music.classical.recordings
I use Audacity from http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
for recording and editing sound files. It can change pitch and tempo
independently.
It is public domain software and is free. You have to rip the CD to mp3 or wav.
You may have to download a mp3 codec.
Herb Foster
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At 02:04 PM 5/29/06 -0400, David Goldberg wrote:
The specific problem that I want to resolve is changing the pitch of the
piano accompaniment CDs that are bundled with the vocal collection books
that I mention here from time to time.
Not software here's a piece of hardware that might suit your
for some reason, I have a concert 'E' stored!
There is also the acquired perfect pitch, means the a is
fix stored in the memory. There is a lot of education
involved.
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for some reason, I have a concert 'E' stored
I don't think it is! Mine's an octave lower!
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I've always heard the term relative pitch used for those having quite good
ears, but not quite perfect pitch. I put myself in that catagory. Some who
can sing a pitch cold most of the time, knows proper intervals, plays in tune,
yet probably coudln't tell you if a solitary note was sharp or
I've always heard the term relative pitch used for those having
quite good ears, but not quite perfect pitch.
No, that isn't what I understand by relative pitch. To me, relative pitch is
the ability to hear intervals accurately, and so to be able to sing or play
accurately and in tune any
Not to be argumentative, but I don't see how your definition and mine
contradict each other. Maybe defined differently, but not contradictory.
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I've always heard the term relative pitch used for those having
quite good ears, but not quite perfect pitch.
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Not to be argumentative, but I don't see how your definition
and mine contradict each other. Maybe defined differently
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I've always heard the term relative pitch used for those
having quite good ears, but not quite perfect pitch. I put
myself in that catagory. Some who can sing a pitch cold
most of the time, knows proper intervals, plays in tune, yet
probably coudln't tell you if a solitary
: RE: [Hornlist] pitch
There is also the acquired perfect pitch, means the a is
fix stored in the memory. There is a lot of education
involved.
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I've always heard the term relative pitch used for
those
having quite good ears, but not quite perfect pitch.
I put
myself in that catagory. Some who can sing a pitch
cold
most of the time, knows proper intervals, plays in
tune, yet
probably coudln't tell
In a message dated 5/25/06 10:05:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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Relative pitch usually means functional perfect pitch once given a starting
note. Same zero defects kind of performance expected in terms of all
notes relative to each other, just not expected to be
question for those with perfect pitch . Within how many cents is your pitch
perfect to tuned piano with 440=a?
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Guess what cabbage. I'm finding I can sing any note cold 75% of the time,
without doing an interval check, so 75% of the time I could start a piece
correctly.
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question for those with perfect pitch . Within how many
cents is your pitch perfect to tuned piano with 440=a?
To digress slightly: It is really not quite so black and white as this,
e.g., I think the right pitches all the time, but when I sing, if I'm
producing my
Three-quarters perfect pitch, I guess.
I was a late bloomer as far as perfect pitch is concerned - I didn't
realize I had perfect pitch until several fellow students told me that, if I
never made mistakes in pitch, I must have perfect pitch - I didn't even know
what perfect pitch was. They were
In a message dated 12/7/2005 7:16:08 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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Can anyone out there explain why the intonation is lower when playing off
the leg than when resting the bell on the leg?
Maybe in your case your hand position changes a little when you raise the
May-be it is the changed distance between ear bell-hole
...
Or, did your tuning slide get lose when lifting up the horn
from the on the leg position ..
Or, did you change the mouthpiece for both positions ...
.(who knows ...)
Or did you change soimething else on the instrument, when
Dan McCartney wrote:
Can anyone out there explain why the intonation is lower when
playing off the leg than when resting the bell on the leg?
Have you confirmed this change in intonation with an electronic tuner? It
may be that the tone color is different and subjectively 'feels' different
If there is a change, I would expect it to result from a change of
right hand position in the bell. Use ears to listen and adjust to
correct any deviation from pitch center.
Paul Mansur
On Wednesday, December 7, 2005, at 08:15 AM, Dan McCartney wrote:
Can anyone out there explain why the
At 1:03 PM -0400 10/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I am playing an exercise that is tonic oriented, should I be checking
pitches against the piano untempered notes in the scale or should I be
hearing
and playing harmonic pitches - major thirds and sixths 14 cents lower, etc.
Hi, Ron -
Carlberg Jones wrote:
At 1:03 PM -0400 10/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I am playing an exercise that is tonic oriented, should I be
checking pitches against the piano untempered notes in the scale or
should I be hearing
and playing harmonic pitches - major thirds and sixths 14
On Thursday, October 20, 2005, at 02:44 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
I don't agree with this. I find most people expect even temperament
these
days, and playing in tune means generally playing in even temperament.
Personally, I find it difficult to play in any not-even temperament
anymore.
will change over time (should I live that long).
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