[Hornlist] Re: Single F horns - Conn 4D
Steve Freides wrote: Anyone playing in a community band or otherwise and using a single F horn? Just a couple of days ago, I took my 1923 Conn 4d out of its case and was reminded just how much I enjoy playing it. It blows _so_ easily and makes quite a nice tone, IMHO. The trouble, of course, is that it gets tricky to hit notes above the staff on a single F but I have trouble with that aspect of my playing, anyway, so it is not yet a big concern to me. My double is a Yamaha 666, which I like but is heavier to hold and a lot more work to play. Perhaps "training" on the bigger horn and then playing the smaller is the best of all worlds. -- I have offered to supply the section of my orchestra with a more or less matched set of single F horns for classical era and Viennese repertory, but so far have not gotten an enthusiastic response from the other players. I use a lot of F horn for that repertory on my double anyway. I find the extra resistance helps with endurance on sustained high notes, and the higher tessitura adds extra brilliance when playing loud. As part of my demonstration for prospective buyers of single F horns, I have (re-)learned the Tchaikovsky 5th slow movement solo on the F horn. It's not really too scary, since you don't have to attack notes very high, and it sounds great. I mostly need the music in front of me so the double horn fingerings don 't pop out unbidden. The Conn 4D is a really nice single F. The Yamaha 31x series are good, and I mostly sell those for young students. Another really good single F horn is the Reynolds Contempora FE-12. It's like the F side of a Pottag model double, but much lighter. Wonderful sound and very responsive. I have one listed on hornplayer. net. Not to be confused with the Reynolds Emperor, which is the same horn as the Olds Ambassador. Richard Hirsh, Chicago ___ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: Single F horns - Conn 4D
>> Playing the single F horn, or playing more on the F side of a >> double is good practice; I play up to 4th line D of the F >> side of my 8D because I like the sound of that D on the F >> side of the 8D (as well as the C a second below). I have found myself playing more and more on the F-side, partly because of the sound and partly because it seems to give me better endurance. For example, if I have to hold a high-G for several bars I'll use the B-flat side to pitch it then change fingerings when I next have to breathe. Having said that, a fair proportion of my wrong notes are due to forgetting which side of the horn I'm using. But getting better. Kit -- Sometimes my Email program gives the wrong return address. If you have any trouble replying to me, use '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and not 'n802...' Sorry for any confusion ___ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: Single F horns - Conn 4D
> -Original Message- > From: Larry Jellison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:18 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Single F horns - Conn 4D > > Steve asked: > >Anyone playing in a community band or otherwise and using a single F > >horn?< > > Steve, we know you also have a single Bb, so do you play that > in ensembles? I haven't done much ensemble playing since I got that Bb single, and most of what I've done has been on the double. > I also have a single Bb as well as an 8D. I > use either one of them to play in ensembles. Depending on > the characteristics of the music, the ensemble, and the horn > section, I chose one or the other. Generally, the single Bb > does just fine with most ensembles. The Bb single will, I think, be something I use more when I become a better player. I'm still spending a good deal of my time playing from the Horner method book, and it got kind of frustrating playing those exercise on the Bb single because they're _so_ written with an F horn (or a double) in mind. I got to the point where I could do it but, as they say, the operation was a success but the patient died - I didn't want to keep dealing with the Bb horn for that material so I went back to the double. I could say the same for band fourth horn parts. > Playing the single F horn, or playing more on the F side of a > double is good practice; I play up to 4th line D of the F > side of my 8D because I like the sound of that D on the F > side of the 8D (as well as the C a second below). I play my double up to about the same area on the F side, usually taking written C on the F side, D on the Bb side most but not all the time, and the C# however it seems most convenient. I find myself using alternate fingerings a lot, mostly because I enjoy playing around with them, e.g., that Du Bist Die Ruh in the Horner book - I find myself playing the first section on the F side of the horn and then the repeat on the Bb side, just for the nice contrast in color it provides. > But I also > use the Bb side of the 8D throughout all ranges if I want > clarity, quicker response, and better projection. It is a wonderful luxury to just noodle around on the horn and not have to be concerned with what's quicker and more reliable and the like. I confess that I am enamored of the sound of the F horn. To me, those notes right in the middle of the staff just sound so wonderful on an F horn. Thanks for your reply, Larry. I've got three nice horns, an F single, a Bb single, and a double, all of which I enjoy playing; I'm a lucky man. -S- > Larry > > > > ___ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridays computer.com > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1678 - Release > Date: 9/25/2008 7:05 AM > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1678 - Release Date: 9/25/2008 7:05 AM ___ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Single F horns - Conn 4D
Steve asked: >Anyone playing in a community band or otherwise and using a single F horn?< Steve, we know you also have a single Bb, so do you play that in ensembles? I also have a single Bb as well as an 8D. I use either one of them to play in ensembles. Depending on the characteristics of the music, the ensemble, and the horn section, I chose one or the other. Generally, the single Bb does just fine with most ensembles. Playing the single F horn, or playing more on the F side of a double is good practice; I play up to 4th line D of the F side of my 8D because I like the sound of that D on the F side of the 8D (as well as the C a second below). But I also use the Bb side of the 8D throughout all ranges if I want clarity, quicker response, and better projection. Larry ___ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
