Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings with new mappers at a maperthon

2017-11-21 Thread john whelan
>John, without weighing in on your main point (to which I'm generally sympathetic), in the cases you speak of where it's easier to map from scratch, why not just do so and use ctrl+shift+g to preserve history? Probably because I have very little interest in correcting buildings. Cheerio John On

Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings with new mappers at a maperthon

2017-11-20 Thread Scott Davies
>One other thing is when I start with a new task, sometimes a lot of work is already done but also sometimes very poorly, buildings not squared or misplaced. I wonder, should I correct that or leave it for the validators? Hi Henk. Yes, the idea is to ensure the square is in a finished state

Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings with new mappers at a maperthon

2017-11-20 Thread john whelan
>One other thing is when I start with a new task, sometimes a lot of work is already done but also sometimes very poorly, buildings not squared or misplaced. I wonder, should I correct that or leave it for the validators? Interesting question I think its like hoping the fairies will come in the

Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings with new mappers at a maperthon

2017-11-20 Thread Dale Kunce
Hey all, I agree with Blake iD is absolutely the best tool to use for new mappers. Yes is requires a bit more clean up from a validator but that is ok, and is best practice anyway. The iD team is working on the building tool but doesn't have a release date. Having this tool would be a game

Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings with new mappers at a maperthon

2017-11-20 Thread Martin Noblecourt
: "Blake Girardot HOT/OSM"<blake.girar...@hotosm.org> To:"hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings with new mappers at a maperthon Message-ID: <CAJtx3h5hEQtaCLHwi65LscApOP_dWF+KG=wvjwxezq1rvxd...@mail.gmail.com> Co

Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings with new mappers at a maperthon

2017-11-20 Thread john whelan
Certain projects have a validator sitting on them. https://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2657 https://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2656 https://tasks.hotosm.org/project/3770 https://tasks.hotosm.org/project/3732 are four. There are others. Everything you mark as done will be validated, if your work

Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings with new mappers at a maperthon

2017-11-20 Thread hnugter
Dear Everybody, I'm one of the new mappers and a read alle these mails with great interest. I just started to map 6 months ago because of an article in our local paper. First I started to map with ID, very easy to use but recently I learned myself to work with JOSM and the building plugin. My

Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings with new mappers at a maperthon

2017-11-20 Thread Bjoern Hassler
Dear friends, thanks for the replies and engaging discussion. Can I propose that we start a google document to put down some of the ideas, and perhaps organise a follow-up chat or community seminar where the ideas can be discussed further? Outcomes can then be added to http://learnosm.org/en/

Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings with new mappers at a maperthon

2017-11-20 Thread john whelan
The interesting thing is when the very experienced iD specialist mapped a building they did it by placing a dot in the four corners of the building then the ways and tag were added very quickly by a short cut perhaps? By placing the four corners first you could see clearly where they should go.

Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings with new mappers at a maperthon

2017-11-20 Thread Stuart Ward
Having spent considerable time fixing iD editor squares non-square buildings, with random shared nodes, connected to roads, and areas, getting a better first time result is so important. I pains where you come across a square that they have clearly spent quite a lot of time mapping all the ins

Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings with new mappers at a maperthon

2017-11-19 Thread Blake Girardot HOT/OSM
Hi, A lot of this would be addressed if iD had a building mapping tool like JOSM does. I am going to restart the effort to get that added in to iD, I have some new ideas for how we might be able to accomplish it. I think it would save literally hundreds of hours volunteer time fixing buildings

Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings with new mappers at a maperthon

2017-11-19 Thread john whelan
and I totally concur with what Ralph has said. We asked people who were attending to install JAVA before they arrived and I had josm-tested.jar available on a DVD to minimise the stress on the wifi network. I had a USB DVD device with me and a bag of mice. The particular maperthon I was at was a

Re: [HOT] Mapping buildings with new mappers at a maperthon

2017-11-19 Thread ralph.aytoun
A useful guide to running your Mapathon can be found here http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/mapathon/ There is no hard and fast rule to running a successful Mapathon. As I point out, each Mapathon will evolve at it’s own pace and in it’s own direction dependent the expertise of the people

[HOT] Mapping buildings with new mappers at a maperthon

2017-11-17 Thread john whelan
I'm not a great person for maperthons, the last one I attended could have gone a little smoother, there was a time delay before mapping. They were mapping buildings and highways and although they were mapping for some time no tiles were completed. Recently there was another one locally which I