Rory,
You are absolutely right, I'm not suggesting not using those guidelines, we
need them. The Organized Editing Guidelines are fine and I believe most of
the people in the OSM community want to follow the guidelines or at least
follow in spirit. I've worked very hard to create good clear
The guidelines are helpful high level guidance but the actual challenge is in
implementation. Building a proper data operation, whether in OSM or not, is not
just about talking to people and provide feedback. It definitely is that, but
needs to be in a system. But working across all aspects of
On 28.03.19 02:57, Vao Matua wrote:
I have observed some characteristics about the OSM mapping through HOT
tasks being done by mapathons, primarily ones done by corporate sponsors.
It appears that often these efforts are not well led, or at least not
led by individuals that have a good level of
Actually things are moving on iD, with focus on validation and expanded tools.
The blocker was never people asking for a building tool.
Improved validation in iD will help a lot. Being able to specify in TM projects
that iD should load for beginners treating any problems as errors not warnings
Providing tools sophisticated or not to Newbies is not the only problem with
quality. See my response about quality for the ticket
https://github.com/hotosm/tasking-manager/issues/1373
With the advent of the MissingMaps project in 2014, the organizations that
sponsor that project did not only
I gave it everything I could to get an iD editor buildings tool
completed and finally gave up after a few years.
This might be a good use of HOT's tech money or another partner who
has experience developing for iD.
How much effort and problems would be alleviated with an iD building tool?
Felix I agree with that approach. If it needs to be in the wiki, then automated
ways to create that archive makes sense.
Rebecca, I think those activities are critical. My perspective is that someone
in HOT needs to be primarily responsible for looking after data, quality and
adherence and
Hola,
Yes, I think it was one of the concerns of the creators of the revised
guidelines to assure that the scattered information on project's
websites like Missing Maps and companies' blogs finds a way back to
OpenStreetMap's infrastructure.
The Tasking Manager is probably the software that is
To draw a rectangular building in line with another takes two clicks in
JOSM using the buildings_tool plugin. Correctly labelled and square.
To correct a building drawn in iD that is untagged and the wrong shape
takes considerably more effort and time when validating.
If you catch the mapper
Hiya,
Just to follow up on this, the mapathons will be supporting Missing Maps
projects. Validation activities to support the mapathons are already
planned for the following week, as well as other activities such as
training and this effort to find local experienced mappers who are
interested in
Mikel et al,
I agree that we need to change the way we do mapathons, the credibility of
HOT and OSM is at risk.
I have observed some characteristics about the OSM mapping through HOT
tasks being done by mapathons, primarily ones done by corporate sponsors.
It appears that often these efforts are
Important to note the guidelines are suggestions not enforced requirements of
the OSMF. More on that in the blog post
https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2019/02/09/organised-editing-guidelines/
My opinion is master list of mapathons is a very good idea. I don’t think the
wiki is best system suited
Shoud I insist, we also need a new trend where such projects take
responsability to produce quality data. Badly, too often, this is not what we
observe. For the Ebola response in North Kivu, the coordinators, we had to
restart the mapping of Butembo in december since the data produced by
The OSM community & Foundation has recently adopted the Organised
Editing Guidelines, to guide events like this. The community wants to
help you make this a successful mapathon.
In emails like this, and in accordance with the OEG, you should link to
the wiki page(s) describing your mapathon.
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