[Hpr] Community news and many-to-many db relationships

2014-07-07 Thread Mike Ray
Hello list.

I am sending this to the list as an easier way to include Dave and Ken
and because it might amuse others.

I haven't been party to the 'discussions' between Dave and Ken about
database strategies other than some remarks in past community news
'casts in which Ken mentioned many-to-many relationships.

I have to say I think from Ken's remarks in the latest community news
'cast that Dave is probably right and Ken's description of
comma-seperated fields in tables sound like enough to make Mr Codd spin
in his grave.

With this in mind I am going to turn the email I sent to Ken into a
podcast.  I will use SQLite as an RDBMS as it's the world's most used
system of that ilk, and the easiest to set up and run.  I'll also use
Perl to automate some of the table definitions, data insertion and
extraction etc.

It sounds like I might have to split it into more than one show, the
first to define some stuff and explain about SQLite, subsequent show(s)
to talk about many-to-many, entity relationship diagrams etc.

Now I have to go and have a lie down after hearing mention of
comma-seperated data in table columns, yuck.

Mike Ray


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Re: [Hpr] Community news and many-to-many db relationships

2014-07-07 Thread Kevin O'Brien

On 7/7/2014 2:20 PM, Mike Ray wrote:

Hello list.

I am sending this to the list as an easier way to include Dave and Ken
and because it might amuse others.

I haven't been party to the 'discussions' between Dave and Ken about
database strategies other than some remarks in past community news
'casts in which Ken mentioned many-to-many relationships.

I have to say I think from Ken's remarks in the latest community news
'cast that Dave is probably right and Ken's description of
comma-seperated fields in tables sound like enough to make Mr Codd spin
in his grave.

With this in mind I am going to turn the email I sent to Ken into a
podcast.  I will use SQLite as an RDBMS as it's the world's most used
system of that ilk, and the easiest to set up and run.  I'll also use
Perl to automate some of the table definitions, data insertion and
extraction etc.

It sounds like I might have to split it into more than one show, the
first to define some stuff and explain about SQLite, subsequent show(s)
to talk about many-to-many, entity relationship diagrams etc.

Now I have to go and have a lie down after hearing mention of
comma-seperated data in table columns, yuck.

Mike Ray


Mike, please do. This is exactly what HPR is about. I wouldn't mind if 
it turned into a series on databases.


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[Hpr] Orca

2014-07-07 Thread Mike Ray

Just a quick heads-up...Jonathan Nadau didn't write Orca.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orca_%28assistive_technology%29

Currently the project is led by Joan-Marie Diggs.

Not another person who is in the habit of using the adjectives 'alpha'
and 'stable' in the same sentence.





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