Re: [Hpr] Kevin O'Brien, Ken Fallon, Mike Ray

[Yung Lyun]

I’ve made some progress in changing the show format to correct the 
copyright issues (quoting articles). It’s not much work to correct this 
issue, but I’m also contacting some of the sources I draw news from for 
more information concerning their licenses. I’ve received emails from 
the FBI and DEA about their publications. I’m told these releases are 
considered “public information”, but one may **not** use any of the 
images (Agency logos) or claim to be affiliated with those agencies 
without written permission; I’m allergic to prison so I’ll make no such 
claims.


I’m researching other news shows and polishing my craft. Thank you for 
the “Shannon Morse ” link; I will 
review this soon. The show dose not have major issues that would cause 
it to end, but I wanted the community to make that decision. So far I’ve 
seen positive mentions of the show. This process is healthy, it’s more 
engagement for the community and a show (oh no news) will benefit from 
it as well. I would like to hear more from Mike Ray; maybe do a show 
with him on the subject of “recurring cast” and “show labels/identity”?


Thank you for your time.

--
SGOTI. (Some Guy On the Internet).
Standard Time Zone: U.S.A., New York, (UTC/GMT -5).
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[Hpr] HPR Community News - next Saturday on 2023-06-03T15:00:00Z

[Dave Morriss via Hpr]

The next Community News will be recorded using Mumble on Saturday, June 
03 2023 between 15:00 (UTC) and 17:00 (UTC) in the 'HPR' room on 
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During the recording HPR Volunteers will review the shows released 
during May 2023, they will read comments submitted during that month, as 
well as summarising email sent to the HPR mailing list.


All HPR listeners are welcome to join in, but we ask that you listen to 
all the shows in May before you do so.


Occasionally, due to local factors, we might need to change the time, or 
even the date, without warning. If you're planning on joining in it 
might be a good idea to let us know in advance - email 
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schedule in the rare event that we have to make a change.


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These extended elements are removed before the show is made fully 
available on the HPR site (and on archive.org). Comments which might 
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which would normally be in this month, but which were read out in the 
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   Start and end times:15:00 (UTC) and 17:00 (UTC)
   Mumble server:  chatter.skyehaven.net
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Re: [Hpr] Policy Change, Call to action for Host to Show ratio

[Ken Fallon]

I think it should be possible to keep "Ho No News", by changing the way 
the news sites are referenced. If you have a look at how ThreatWire by 
Shannon Morse  does it, you can see how 
she navigates this issues. She paraphrases articles and keeps direct 
quotes to an absolute minimum.


I'm not sure how much additional work this would be, so another approach 
might be to quote sites that have a CC compatible license. Many 
government run sites required threats to be logged publicly using an 
open license.


If people could help out by tracking down some of these resources for 
SGOTI that would help.


--
Regards,

Ken Fallon (PA7KEN,G5KEN)
https://kenfallon.com
https://hackerpublicradio.org/hosts/ken_fallon


On 2023-05-27 23:57, Kevin O'Brien wrote:
I'm a strong believer in the value of licenses like Creative Commons, 
and I take them seriously. If there is no way to continue the Oh No 
news without violating the license, then as much as I love it, I would 
vote to stop it. Is there absolutely no way of continuing it without a 
license violation, though? Could a simple change in the show bring it 
into compliance. As far as I am aware, you cannot copyright facts, and 
much of what SGOTI does in this show is to state that such-and-such 
happened. Where I would think a problem would arise is in direct 
quoting of someone else's copyrighted material, and even that can be a 
gray area if the source is cited and only a little bit is quoted. So 
my preference would be to look into how SGOTI can continue his show 
while being in legal compliance. But if that is not possible, then I 
reluctantly come down on the side of license compliance.


Regards,


--
Kevin B. O'Brien
z wil...@zwilnik.com
http://about.me/zwilnik


  “People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Governments should
  be afraid of their people.” - Alan Moore, /V for Vendetta/



On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 8:25 AM Ken Fallon  wrote:

Hi All,

Can you please respond to this policy change, as it stands this is
something that we should not implement.

Also please send in some shows this weekend as we're going to be
moving to the static site soon and it would be great to have the
queue full.

Ken.


On 2023-05-12 11:14, Ken Fallon wrote:


Hi All,

First , *w**e need shows immediately* as there is an empty queue
next week, and the number of Emergency/Reserve shows are also
dwindling. So please finish that show you were thinking of
submitting and send it in. If you don't care when it's released
please put "Use as Emergency show" in the show notes for now.

... hold music while you do that ...

I am concerned about the future of HPR, as a project where the
shows are produced by the community. At this rate we cease to be
a bar camp style podcast and become one where the shows are
provided by a rotating team of "regulars".

Ideally we would like it so that every show is contributed by a
different host, giving a 1:1 ratio between show and host. So far
this year all but 4 of the submissions are from hosts who
submitted more than one show, a 3:1 ratio. Ahuka aside, the
majority are as a result of kindhearted hosts who contribute
shows at the last minute to fill the vacant slots.

To make this problem more visible I would like to introduce the
following Scheduling Guideline "*No host should submit any more
than one show in a two week period.*" Of course these are
guidelines etc etc., but it should still allow prolific hosts to
submit shows while not masking the underlying issue that we have
yet to address.

Which is: We need new hosts, but we also need old hosts who have
not submitted shows this year to submit a show.

How do we solve this problem ?

-- 
Regards,


Ken Fallon (PA7KEN,G5KEN)
https://kenfallon.com
https://hackerpublicradio.org/hosts/ken_fallon
ID
Host
Total

159 HPR Volunteers  12
198 Ahuka   9
391 Some Guy On The Internet8
318 Archer727
282 Mike Ray5
30  Ken Fallon  5
326 Brian in Ohio   5
36  operat0r3
365 Bookewyrmm  3
225 Dave Morriss3
401 Mechatroniac3
415 enistello   2
407 Celeste 2
268 Andrew Conway   2
152 Claudio Miranda 2
293 Rho`n   2
416 screwtape   2
342 norrist 2
238 Jon Kulp2
375 minnix  2
201 MrX 2
408 Stache_AF   1
383 Paul Quirk  1
209 David Whitman   1
377 Zen_Floater21




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