Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On 10/12/2015 07:28 PM, brandan34 via hugin and other free panoramic software wrote: I have had enough problems finding some of the controls that I have given up and made a several scripts to edit the pto file outside of hugin. In fairness I had that problem with the old hugin as well. This new

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On 21 September 2015 03:59:45 BST, John Muccigrosso wrote: > >If I might, I'd suggest that, at least IMO, a lot of the responses to >the >grumbling were fairly final sounding and even a bit harsh. A look back >at >the responses when the new UI was being shown shows complaints about a >number

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

As a non-programmer (know enough to be dangerous, but only in very limited circumstances :-) ), I very much appreciate the comments of Yuv and Bruno. My own sense is similar to Bruno's: simple stuff often works great, but when there's a problem, it can be really hard to figure out why. I've

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Hello Yuval, On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 22:14:25 +1000, Yuval Levy wrote: Hi Terry, and everybody else: On 15-09-21 01:55 AM, Terry Duell wrote: [snip] That's a good point, but I think it is unlikely that the developer(s) would have ended up implementing a design that caused

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On 21 September 2015 03:59:45 BST, John Muccigrosso wrote: > >If I might, I'd suggest that, at least IMO, a lot of the responses to >the >grumbling were fairly final sounding and even a bit harsh. A look back >at >the responses when the new UI was being shown shows complaints about a >number

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Hi Terry, and everybody else: On 15-09-21 01:55 AM, Terry Duell wrote: > [snip] > >> >> Yes, I had a few complaints about the redesign. None of my complaints >> were given any response beyond the above, 'Your issue doesn't cause me >> any >> concern' and boiled down to 'you'll get used to it.' >

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Hello all, hello John, you expressed a couple of problems that I experience, too. It took me quite some time to get used to it. 1. "Hiding the Optimizer and Exposure windows is confusing." I guess you meant the tabs. These are displayed as soon as you choose a setting like "custom

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On Sep 20, 2015 16:59, "John Muccigrosso" wrote: > > On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 1:48:48 AM UTC-4, Tduell wrote: >> >> I guess everyone has their preferences as to how things should look and >> feel, but there haven't been a lot of grumbles (there have been some) >>

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Hallo Everyone, Monday, September 21, 2015, 4:59:45 AM, you wrote: > about the new interface since it's introduction. I don't see any of the   > points you raise as being issues that cause me any concern. > I guess the hope of getting these nags rectified may increase if other   > users express

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Hello Gnome, [snip] Yes, I had a few complaints about the redesign. None of my complaints were given any response beyond the above, 'Your issue doesn't cause me any concern' and boiled down to 'you'll get used to it.' That's a good point, but I think it is unlikely that the

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Hello John, On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 12:59:45 +1000, John Muccigrosso wrote: On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 1:48:48 AM UTC-4, Tduell wrote: I guess everyone has their preferences as to how things should look and feel, but there haven't been a lot of grumbles (there have

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Hello John, On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 05:06:22 +1000, John Eklund wrote: After sticking to an old Hugin version for years ("if it ain't broken, don't fix it"), I finally created a project which made the old cpfind crash (500 images gigapixel), so I reminded myself that new is

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On Friday, May 18, 2012 12:08:34 AM UTC+2, Bruno Postle wrote: What is your objection to the exposure correction? You don't want any exposure correction, even from the EXIF data? or you don't like the values that the photometric optimisation comes up with? it sometimes gives bad

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Hello, two issues here: 1) in version (5806:49acc6d432c6) I get an crash if I want do delete more than one image from a project. I do the following: Open project - Go to Photos Tab select two or more images at the *end* of the list. Right click remove selected image(s)'. hugin:

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On Sun 20-May-2012 at 01:54 -0700, Jeffrey Martin wrote: On Friday, May 18, 2012 12:08:34 AM UTC+2, Bruno Postle wrote: What is your objection to the exposure correction? You don't want any exposure correction, even from the EXIF data? or you don't like the values that the photometric

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Hi, I do get a compilation error in the latest 5804 version when compiling AssistantPanel.cpp /Users/Shared/development/hugin_related/gui_overhaul/mac/../src/hugin1/hugin/AssistantPanel.cpp:420: error: 'HUGIN_ASS_PREVIEW' was not declared in this scope The 5799 version compiled correctly. Harry

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

2012/5/19 T. Modes thomas.mo...@gmx.de Hi Harry, On 19 Mai, 12:07, Harry van der Wolf hvdw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I do get a compilation error in the latest 5804 version when compiling AssistantPanel.cpp

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:08:28 PM UTC-4, Bruno Postle wrote: On Wed 16-May-2012 at 18:47 -0700, Yuv wrote: Why should XYZ be considered more advanced than bracketing? XYZ is still very unstable, most of the time it goes and does something weird. If you are careful you can get

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Just compiled the 5806:49acc6d432c6 version. I do like the combined assistant/preview mode. However, after cpfind has finished and the images are laid out in the preview, the view is always too small. I always have to zoom out, using the slider, to make the entire pano fit in the preview. Is this

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

And.. the menu doesn't function correctly anymore. In the menu I have from left to right: Hugin, File, Edit, etc. Below hugin was always the Stop Hugin option/action. It's still there but it doesn't function anymore. Suddenly below File there is also a Stop option/action. That one works. The

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

- In the Old GUI, I liked the drop down in the Optimizer menu, that gave the different stitching options. This allows to play around without understanding in detail what's happening. These still exist, but they are now on the Photos tab. I agree that this is non-optimal, but also

RE: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

XYZ is in a universal language, that of experts, of mathematicians. It is the language of XYZ that allows us to situate ourselves in a spatial 3d world. Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 18:47:18 -0700 From: goo...@levy.ch To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On Wed 16-May-2012 at 18:47 -0700, Yuv wrote: I agree with both Margaret and Jim. The current terminology reflects an inward view that has nothing to do with the level of proficiency of the user -- neither in terms of computing nor in terms of photography. It draws an arbitrary line in the

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On Thu 17-May-2012 at 03:54 -0700, David Horman wrote: On the stitcher tab, which panorama output option should I tick if I want a blended, *not* exposure corrected, low dynamic range panorama? At the moment you need to reset all photometric parameters in the Images tab, then stitch as

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

I shoot on manual and trust my blender to correct any other exposure difference (which should be very little), and I think having to reset all parameters to 0 to turn it off (when in fact it's still *on*, just at 0 strength, as it were) is pretty convoluted. A no exposure correction option

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On Thu 17-May-2012 at 15:32 -0700, David Horman wrote: I shoot on manual and trust my blender to correct any other exposure difference (which should be very little), and I think having to reset all parameters to 0 to turn it off (when in fact it's still *on*, just at 0 strength, as it were) is

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

2012/5/18 Monkey davidhorma...@gmail.com I shoot on manual and trust my blender to correct any other exposure difference (which should be very little), and I think having to reset all parameters to 0 to turn it off (when in fact it's still *on*, just at 0 strength, as it were) is pretty

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On 05/13/2012 09:04 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: 2012/5/14 Gnome Nomad gnomeno...@gmail.com mailto:gnomeno...@gmail.com On 05/10/2012 02:01 AM, kfj wrote: On 9 Mai, 21:25, Bruno Postlebr...@postle.net mailto:br...@postle.net wrote: In the existing GUI there

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

2012/5/16 Gnome Nomad gnomeno...@gmail.com On 05/13/2012 09:04 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: 2012/5/14 Gnome Nomad gnomeno...@gmail.com mailto:gnomeno...@gmail.com On 05/10/2012 02:01 AM, kfj wrote: On 9 Mai, 21:25, Bruno Postlebr...@postle.net mailto:br...@postle.net

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On Wed 16-May-2012 at 11:05 +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: Sorry, I was not clear, I did not mean tabs down the side (I think you meant something like vertical :-/ ) I meant tabs within tabs. In the images tab, on the left a single column list of image names, and in the right part of the

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 6:58:02 AM UTC-4, Jim Watters wrote: On 2012-05-14 7:45 PM, Margaret Wong wrote: Personally I think of the Assistant as 'beginner', and anything to do with bracketing or XYZ mosaics as 'expert', i.e. things that should be well hidden unless you go looking for

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Good morning The remark below stands - In the Old GUI, I liked the drop down in the Optimizer menu, that gave the different stitching options. This allows to play around without understanding in detail what's happening. These still exist, but they are now on the Photos tab. I agree

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On 2012-05-14 7:45 PM, Margaret Wong wrote: Personally I think of the Assistant as 'beginner', and anything to do with bracketing or XYZ mosaics as 'expert', i.e. things that should be well hidden unless you go looking for them. Everything else in the GUI is relevant to

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Great! Has anyone built a windows test version of this that could be shared for playing around with? Cheers /O 2012/5/15 Jim Watters jwatt...@photocreations.ca On 2012-05-14 7:45 PM, Margaret Wong wrote: Personally I think of the Assistant as 'beginner', and anything to do with

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On 05/10/2012 02:01 AM, kfj wrote: On 9 Mai, 21:25, Bruno Postlebr...@postle.net wrote: In the existing GUI there is the Images tab and there is the Camera and Lens tab, which is actually another two tabs. They each show a different set of image parameters, but some image parameters are not

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

2012/5/14 Gnome Nomad gnomeno...@gmail.com On 05/10/2012 02:01 AM, kfj wrote: On 9 Mai, 21:25, Bruno Postlebr...@postle.net wrote: In the existing GUI there is the Images tab and there is the Camera and Lens tab, which is actually another two tabs. They each show a different set of

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On Sun 13-May-2012 at 21:37 +0200, Serge Droz wrote: The remark below stands - In the Old GUI, I liked the drop down in the Optimizer menu, that gave the different stitching options. This allows to play around without understanding in detail what's happening. These still exist, but

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Hello List, I've tried out the latest (5786:fd5019496dd1) version of hugin with the new GUI. Here some feedback: - I have two Optimizer tabs, only the on can be clicked. - There is no Stitch tab, and I haven't figured out how to stitch from the GUI - In the Old GUI, I liked the drop down in

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

There was a problem building, which I fixed. I did need the appended patch. - I have two Optimizer tabs, only the on can be clicked. - There is no Stitch tab, and I haven't figured out how to stitch from the GUI The remark below stands - In the Old GUI, I liked the drop down in the

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On 05/09/2012 06:26 AM, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: 2012/5/9 T. Modes thomas.mo...@gmx.de mailto:thomas.mo...@gmx.de Concerning the fast preview: I thought also on this, but I'm not sure. There is still the issue with the crashing preview. I fixed some time ago a further issue, but

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

2012/5/10 Gnome Nomad gnomeno...@gmail.com In the Windows 2011.4.0 version, the fast preview crash still occurs, although much much less frequently. For me, the current frequency of crash is quite acceptable, but others may disagree. And it seems some others have it at much higher rates than

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

2012/5/10 Harry van der Wolf hvdw...@gmail.com 2012/5/10 Gnome Nomad gnomeno...@gmail.com In the Windows 2011.4.0 version, the fast preview crash still occurs, although much much less frequently. For me, the current frequency of crash is quite acceptable, but others may disagree. And it

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On 2012-05-09 5:05 PM, Bruno Postle wrote: On Wed 09-May-2012 at 09:12 -0700, Thomas Modes wrote: In the fast preview I started to hide controls in the beginner mode: currently only the mosaic drag controls are hidden for beginner. Which control do you think can be confusing for beginner?

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Jim Watters schrieb am 10.05.12 17:29: On 2012-05-09 5:05 PM, Bruno Postle wrote: On Wed 09-May-2012 at 09:12 -0700, Thomas Modes wrote: In the fast preview I started to hide controls in the beginner mode: currently only the mosaic drag controls are hidden for beginner. Which control do you

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

What about easy, medium, hard? Now we still have to find a way to implement fatality ;-) Without kidding: I think guided, standard and expert mode are pretty nice. Guided being assistant only, basically (except maybe from some basic viewpoint selection using the preview window). -- Bart On

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

What about “Normal” and “Nerd”? On 10 May 2012 17:30, Bart van Andel bavanan...@gmail.com wrote: What about easy, medium, hard? Now we still have to find a way to implement fatality ;-) Without kidding: I think guided, standard and expert mode are pretty nice. Guided being assistant only,

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Den 08/05/2012 23.48 skrev Hugin has lots of photography jargon, but this is inevitable, there has to be a better word than GUI. If a label, e.g. next to a checkbox, is needed, what about cutting down the acronym and let it say user interface mode or maybe just interface mode? Or even user mode?

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Em 09/05/2012 05:18, Thomas Pryds escreveu: Den 08/05/2012 23.48 skrev Hugin has lots of photography jargon, but this is inevitable, there has to be a better word than GUI. If a label, e.g. next to a checkbox, is needed, what about cutting down the acronym and let it say user interface

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

2012/5/9 T. Modes thomas.mo...@gmx.de Concerning the fast preview: I thought also on this, but I'm not sure. There is still the issue with the crashing preview. I fixed some time ago a further issue, but until now no feedback if it is really fixed. In the fast preview I started to hide

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On Tue 08-May-2012 at 19:11 -1000, Gnome Nomad wrote: I do wonder all this effort to merge tabs together (I don't happen to agree with that, since some of the merges that have already been mentioned have apparently made it harder to use!) In the existing GUI there is the Images tab and

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On Wed 09-May-2012 at 09:12 -0700, Thomas Modes wrote: Concerning the fast preview: I thought also on this, but I'm not sure. There is still the issue with the crashing preview. I fixed some time ago a further issue, but until now no feedback if it is really fixed. I don't think there is any

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On Wed 09-May-2012 at 09:12 -0700, Thomas Modes wrote: I will fix this point when the above mentioned merge is done. It's on my to do list. One more bug: Good to see the g t shear parameters in the GUI, but they are filled with the same values as the d e parameters. -- Bruno -- You

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Hi 2012/5/8 Yuv goo...@levy.ch I took advantage of a bug in the Ubuntu PPA nightly builder (should build the latest trunk, instead it build the latest updated branch at the time of pulling, which ends up being quite random) to try the overhauled GUI. I had a couple of images to defish, no

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 6:57:23 AM UTC-4, Harry van der Wolf wrote: I would prefer more clarity to the used mode as well but I don't like fiddling with background colors. Some interfaces are really terrible color wise and I prefer the grey backgrounds of many programs: It's the easiest and

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Currently building. 2012/5/8 T. Modes thomas.mo...@gmx.de First impression: well done, good job, it is an improvement. the beginner/advanced/expert switch shouldn't be hidden in the Settings menu I don't see a point on adding extra buttons for this to the toolbar. IMHO only

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

And now after building I think the best label in the screen and in the menu is Gui mode. In the screen it is immediately clear what is meant with it and it automatically explains the the menu label as well. (And for the insiders we create an extra label: Gui tmodes) (Away for the rest of the

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On Tue 08-May-2012 at 12:52 -0700, Thomas Modes wrote: On 8 Mai, 20:14, Harry van der Wolf hvdw...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for the propose. I changed the label. I changed the display wxChoice to wxRadioBox. So I hope it is more obvious. This is clearer, do you have any plans for what comes

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On Tue 08-May-2012 at 12:52 -0700, Thomas Modes wrote: And now after building I think the best label in the screen and in the menu is Gui mode. I think this is much better, but I'm concerned the acronym GUI can't make much sense to most people - How does it translate into other languages?

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On 05/08/2012 11:39 AM, Bruno Postle wrote: On Tue 08-May-2012 at 12:52 -0700, Thomas Modes wrote: On 8 Mai, 20:14, Harry van der Wolf hvdw...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for the propose. I changed the label. I changed the display wxChoice to wxRadioBox. So I hope it is more obvious. This is

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On 05/08/2012 11:48 AM, Bruno Postle wrote: On Tue 08-May-2012 at 12:52 -0700, Thomas Modes wrote: And now after building I think the best label in the screen and in the menu is Gui mode. I think this is much better, but I'm concerned the acronym GUI can't make much sense to most people - How

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

2012/5/9 Gnome Nomad gnomeno...@gmail.com GUI is a piece of programmer/UXD computer jargon that makes ordinary people go Huh? Plus using GUI would imply (to more knowledgable computer folker) that the alternative is a TUI (TEXT user interface), not just a simplified GUI. I vote for

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

I took advantage of a bug in the Ubuntu PPA nightly builder (should build the latest trunk, instead it build the latest updated branch at the time of pulling, which ends up being quite random) to try the overhauled GUI. I had a couple of images to defish, no fancy projects. First impression:

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On 6 May 2012 09:11, T. Modes thomas.mo...@gmx.de wrote: I see the same error on fedora f16, this is with gcc-4.6.3. Thats strange. I tested on f15, there it works. Now I installed f16, and also here it works. Nevertheless I modified the code and committed (works here on Windows and

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Dear arclance On 05.05.2012 21:58, arclance wrote: I tried building your gui_overhaul branch but it failed. [ 82%] Building CXX object src/hugin1/hugin/CMakeFiles/hugin.dir/ ImagesPanel.cpp.o In file included from /usr/include/c++/4.4/backward/hash_set:60, from

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

Hi Thomas, 2012/5/5 arclance arclanceml...@gmail.com I tried building your gui_overhaul branch but it failed. [ 82%] Building CXX object src/hugin1/hugin/CMakeFiles/hugin.dir/ ImagesPanel.cpp.o In file included from /usr/include/c++/4.4/backward/hash_set:60, from

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul

On Sat 05-May-2012 at 12:58 -0700, arclance wrote: I tried building your gui_overhaul branch but it failed. [ 82%] Building CXX object src/hugin1/hugin/CMakeFiles/hugin.dir/ PanoPanel.cpp.o /media/Linux_Data/Programs_CB10/Hugin/src/hugin/hugin_gui_overhaul/src/ hugin1/hugin/ImagesPanel.cpp: In