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On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 05:11:24PM -0500, Yuval Levy wrote:
> On December 30, 2010 10:38:36 am Rogier Wolff wrote:
> > I think the gui is "reasonable" in that it pops
> > up the assistant and nudges the user to click "1: load images", and
> > this will result in a pano a few clicks further down th
Big thumbs up! Impressive indeed!
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Hi all,
I just entered the first blueprint for hugin into launchpad:
http://bit.ly/hmxCj4
(Link obfuscated to not spoil the surprise.)
What do you think?
Jan
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On December 29, 2010 01:26:21 pm kfj wrote:
> On 29 Dez., 14:09, Rogier Wolff wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 07:42:12AM -0500, Yuval Levy wrote:
> > > Still: I don't think CPs are the ultimate tool for the image
> > > alignment process...
>
> I agree. But what else do we have? I'm asking this
On December 29, 2010 05:02:30 am kfj wrote:
> On 28 Dez., 23:57, Bruno Postle wrote:
> > >Rogier, whom I asked for his personal script in the initial post,
> > >isn't sharing it and Bruno doesn't scale by arbitrary factors, which
> > >is what I'd like to see.
> >
> > Out of interest, what advanta
On December 29, 2010 04:50:17 am kfj wrote:
> my contribution will only become practical
> once my modifications to pano_trafo have been accepted
done (yesterday).
> If you look at the purpose of the script in a
> different way, you can maybe appreciate it's usefulness better: it's
> an insuranc
On December 30, 2010 07:59:36 pm Bruno Postle wrote:
> I think there are people who shoot some photos on holiday,
> install Hugin when they get home, and get a reasonable stitch
> without problems.
we rely on a lot of luck here, and the more features we add to Hugin, the less
lucky we are.
> W
Hoi Harry,
On January 2, 2011 03:08:51 am Harry van der Wolf wrote:
> Note: Stable versions for OSX are always released via Sourceforge and
> never via my website.
Sorry for that. Is there any reason why the betas and release candidates were
not on Sourceforge?
It would be helpful, from a rel
On December 31, 2010 05:05:20 am kfj wrote:
> Other programs hide complexity by default and can be switched into
> more advanced, or 'expert' modes, where more options become available.
this is not about complexity vs. simplicity.
Hugin is like an Office suite. In an office suite you have a Word
On December 31, 2010 12:20:22 pm Bruno Postle wrote:
> make the preview the 'main' application window and make the
> everything else secondary - to the extent that only the preview is visible
> during a normal workflow.
>
> This approach is now practical since we got background loading of photos,
On January 1, 2011 06:57:46 am Bruno Postle wrote:
> [Snip making the preview the default GUI]
>
> Any change needs to be considered as a complete user experience:
>
> The 123 load, align, stitch functions need to be very prominent, I'd make
> them huge text and overlay them over the preview canv
On January 2, 2011 03:58:53 am Rogier Wolff wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 05:11:24PM -0500, Yuval Levy wrote:
> > On December 30, 2010 10:38:36 am Rogier Wolff wrote:
> > Disagree. That assistant tab assist is a nuisance to the power user and
> > a deception to the occasional user - especially
On January 2, 2011 08:58:18 am Jan Martin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just entered the first blueprint for hugin into launchpad:
>
> http://bit.ly/hmxCj4
>
> (Link obfuscated to not spoil the surprise.)
>
> What do you think?
I don't want to spoil your experience, so let's say... it's a good start
Hi all,
I like to invite you to work on the specs together.
Jan
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/hugin/+spec/speed-test-tab
Hugin Speed Test tab for automatic hardware evaluation.
To pick the right hardware for hugin one needs to know what performance one
will get. For this we create a new "Sp
2011/1/2 Yuval Levy
> Hoi Harry,
>
> On January 2, 2011 03:08:51 am Harry van der Wolf wrote:
> > Note: Stable versions for OSX are always released via Sourceforge and
> > never via my website.
>
> Sorry for that. Is there any reason why the betas and release candidates
> were
> not on Sourcefo
2011/1/2 Yuval Levy
> On January 1, 2011 06:57:46 am Bruno Postle wrote:
> > [Snip making the preview the default GUI]
> >
> > Any change needs to be considered as a complete user experience:
> >
> > The 123 load, align, stitch functions need to be very prominent, I'd make
> > them huge text and
Hi,
i downloaded Hugin "HuginSetup_2010.4.0-64bit_Windows.exe" and
installed it on my Windows 7 x64. Everything work fine, until i try to
create the pano. Then i got the following message:
===
_MG_0176.CR2 _MG_0176_8B_NoComp-
Hi,
Someone nicknamed olegsov told me at linux.org.ru he had to calculate
polynomial for his Samyang 8mm lens himself.
The equation is:
r = 1.3131967461747968e-05 + p * (0.00064446589664794328 +
p*(5.6064710793791478e-09 - p*1.1398055689036795e-11))
What's the best way to get this into Hugin an
On Jan 2, 6:30 pm, prokoudine wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Someone nicknamed olegsov told me at linux.org.ru he had to calculate
> polynomial for his Samyang 8mm lens himself.
>
> The equation is:
>
> r = 1.3131967461747968e-05 + p * (0.00064446589664794328 +
> p*(5.6064710793791478e-09 - p*1.1398055689036795
On January 2, 2011 10:30:27 am prokoudine wrote:
> r = 1.3131967461747968e-05 + p * (0.00064446589664794328 +
> p*(5.6064710793791478e-09 - p*1.1398055689036795e-11))
>
> What's the best way to get this into Hugin and/or panotools?
a/b/c parameters
Yuv
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On January 2, 2011 10:22:29 am OS wrote:
> /usr/bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `(6'
> /usr/bin/sh: -c: line 1: `echo Operating System: Windows 7 (6.1 )'
> make: *** [info] Error 258
>
>
> Does anybody know what i am doing wrong??
can you please post the .pto and .pto.mk f
On January 2, 2011 10:09:08 am Harry van der Wolf wrote:
> 2011/1/2 Yuval Levy
> > I'd look at EXIF from the start. and at the quantity of images being
> > dropped
> > / added. but yes, starting in the middle is a good... start :)
>
> I agree with the "deck of cards" approach and completely dis
Hi Yuv,
I tried your idea to install compressed man pages. Looks useful. At least on my
system it works
flawlessly. May I commit?
Kornel
# Windows does not have a man page system
# TODO: it would be nice to convert the POD files to a text that is
# useful for Windows, and put this d
2011/1/2 OS
> Hi,
>
> i downloaded Hugin "HuginSetup_2010.4.0-64bit_Windows.exe" and
> installed it on my Windows 7 x64. Everything work fine, until i try to
> create the pano. Then i got the following message:
>
> ===
> _MG_
On 2 Jan., 16:22, OS wrote:
=
> _MG_0176.CR2 _MG_0176_8B_NoComp-_MG_0179_8B_NoComp.log
You aren't perchance trying to process RAW files with hugin? (I
noticed the .CR2 extension)
Hugin doesn't work with RAW images, you have to use a raw converter
first and feed hugin the TIFFs or JPGs.
Kay
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On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:37:41 -0500, Yuval Levy wrote:
> On December 30, 2010 07:59:36 pm Bruno Postle wrote:
>> I think there are people who shoot some photos on holiday,
>> install Hugin when they get home, and get a reasonable stitch
>> without problems.
>
>> Hugin is also the de-facto panorama
I was thinking how about making a window at the beginning that asks the
user if he wants to run Hugin as a normal panorama stitcher or in HDR mode??
Then you show the fast preview window mode with a black background, on the
right there would be a control panel with the 123 load, align and stitch
On 1/2/2011 9:37 AM, Yuval Levy wrote:
On January 2, 2011 03:58:53 am Rogier Wolff wrote:
On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 05:11:24PM -0500, Yuval Levy wrote:
On December 30, 2010 10:38:36 am Rogier Wolff wrote:
Disagree. That assistant tab assist is a nuisance to the power user and
a deception to the
On 2 Jan., 15:37, Yuval Levy wrote:
> currently a CP line in the PTO file looks like:
>
> c n0 N1 x2319.75430140533 y1306.89102657256 X635.409481924115
> Y1295.02701452379 t0
>
> what would it take to expand it to:
>
> c n0 N1 x2319.75430140533 y1306.89102657256 X635.409481924115
> Y1295.027014
On 1 Jan., 20:50, Joshua Stults wrote:
> BTW, thank you for your Python pto
> parser; very useful. Getting everything into python so easily makes
> trying stuff out way easier.
You're welcome! I hope there will be more pythonic activity soon. An
item on the wishlist is definitely to have Pyth
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Joshua Stults wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 6:15 AM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> As far as the X,Y and Z parameters are concerned, I found this
>> helpful:
>> http://wiki.panotools.org/Stiching_a_photo-mosaic
> Thank you; that is a *very* helpful picture on the
On 1 Jan., 20:32, Yuval Levy wrote:
> First: I updated the ptoimggen.py script to deal with Windows paths. I love
> Python. Attached (for Kay).
Yuval, I suppose you want to make sure that, when using the script on
a Unix machine, ptos coming from Windows users will be properly
treated. But
Kay,
Thanks for the script, it works great! It's helped in speeding up CP
optimization greatly.
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On 2 Jan., 20:33, kevin wrote:
> Kay,
>
> Thanks for the script, it works great! It's helped in speeding up CP
> optimization greatly.
You're welcome! By now my change to pano_trafo has also made it into
the repo, so if you grab the latest code and build it, a version of
pano_trafo which can b
On January 2, 2011 01:21:46 pm Roger Goodman wrote:
> And as a follow-on to that question, how about "Do you need
> help to calibrate your lens?" Some of us less-technical users don't
> know how to do things of this nature. This should call another wizard
> (script), to walk the user th
On January 2, 2011 10:47:24 am Kornel Benko wrote:
> Hi Yuv,
> I tried your idea to install compressed man pages. Looks useful. At least
> on my system it works flawlessly. May I commit?
yes, go ahead please. and: you really do not need to ask for permission to
commit, unless you suspect that yo
On January 2, 2011 11:19:09 am Robert Krawitz wrote:
> > Starting from the end: no projections other than equirect. For
> > everything else there is Panini (and a friendly notice at the end of
> > the process telling users where to get it).
>
> Equirectangular may work well for a full spherical p
On January 2, 2011 02:33:31 pm kfj wrote:
> name = re.sub ( '.*[/\\]' , '' , line.n.value )
>
> which discards everything up to the last slash or backslash. What do
> you say?
that you're the Python King and I have been away from Windows for too long to
care ;-)
well done, Kay.
Yuv
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On January 2, 2011 01:56:28 pm kfj wrote:
> On 1 Jan., 20:50, Joshua Stults wrote:
> > Is what's on sourceforge
> > [0] the latest and greatest? I noticed some messages on the list
> > that you guys are moving away from using source-forge, is the SVN
> > there still the working repo?
>
> the r
I am olegsov from linux,org.ru (gmail olegsov was taken by someone
else).
a,b,c parameters are distortion parameters for rectilinear lens type,
correct?
The polynomial provided is not a distortion polynomial, it is a
function that maps the distance from center (p in the formula), in
pixels, to th
Hi,
This is not a distortion correction polynomial, this is a projection
function - p is pixel distance from the center, r is angle in radians
between lens axis and "viewing direction", so to say, of that pixel.
It probably can be used to obtain a,b,c distortion parameters for the
closest existin
Hi,
thank you for your help.
The "old" version of hugin (2009.4.0 32bit) does not have problems
with these picutres or others. i tried more panoramas ...
@Harry: The names are all like "_MG_0176_8B_NoComp.tif". So nothing
bad or?
@Kay: the raw are beside of the tiffs. After your post i tried to
Oleg,
would you mind sending me a photo with prominent straight lines? Like
a building shot straight forward.
I will interested to look into this lens type, and potentially add a
new projection.
We believe it is a stereographic type of lens.
--dmg
> It probably can be used to obtain a,b,c dist
On January 2, 2011 12:52:53 pm OS wrote:
> @Yuv The files are attached.
>
> Here ist the .pto.mk file:
this is not an attachment. you copy&pasted the file into the message. not
the same. not useful because line numbers can't be easily discerned and lines
may be broken by the submission form.
Am Sonntag, 2. Januar 2011 schrieb Yuval Levy:
> On January 2, 2011 10:47:24 am Kornel Benko wrote:
> > Hi Yuv,
> > I tried your idea to install compressed man pages. Looks useful. At least
> > on my system it works flawlessly. May I commit?
>
> yes, go ahead please. and: you really do not need t
Hi,
i am new to google groups. Can you give me a hint how i can attach a
file to this post? I tried to upload the files under the point
"files", but with no success i can not attache it to the post?!
The link to both files are:
http://hugin-ptx.googlegroups.com/web/_MG_0176_8B_NoComp-_MG_017
On January 2, 2011 05:21:44 pm OS wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i am new to google groups. Can you give me a hint how i can attach a
> file to this post? I tried to upload the files under the point
> "files", but with no success i can not attache it to the post?!
AFAIK the GoogleGroups web interface sucks
On Thu 30-Dec-2010 at 08:14 -0800, kfj wrote:
With images like that, you're asking for trouble. Your images are
narrow-angle, and the content is often barely more than blank
walls or featureless surfaces. You can't reasonably expect a CP
generator to find CPs in this situation.
One way of w
On Sun 02-Jan-2011 at 10:38 -0800, kfj wrote:
#-hugin cpWeight s0 a0 w100
AFAIK this is established practice for introducing additional
('noncritical') values into the pto without breaking compatibility
with other pto-using programs.
It is used for Hugin GUI metadata that doesn't materially a
On Sat 01-Jan-2011 at 17:11 -0500, Yuval Levy wrote:
On December 26, 2010 07:07:29 pm Bruno Postle wrote:
Hugin doesn't have a usable way to share lens and camera information
between users, you basically have to recalculate this every time you
create a project.
A user can record his lens.ini f
On Sun 02-Jan-2011 at 09:37 -0500, Yuval Levy wrote:
On January 1, 2011 06:57:46 am Bruno Postle wrote:
[Snip making the preview the default GUI]
The 123 load, align, stitch functions need to be very prominent, I'd make
them huge text and overlay them over the preview canvas itself so this is
On Sun 02-Jan-2011 at 09:37 -0500, Yuval Levy wrote:
it's actually *mis* guiding. I am not against having a good assistant. but
the current assistant is nothing more than a blind run through the different
tabs with no guidance but raising the expectation of guidance.
It actually has quite a
/usr/bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `(6'
/usr/bin/sh: -c: line 1: `echo Operating System: Windows 7 (6.1 )'
make: *** [info] Error 258
The error appears to be in the Makefile, this line isn't a valid
bash/sh command:
echo Operating System: Windows 7 (6.1)
This loo
On January 2, 2011 01:38:46 pm kfj wrote:
> the C parser used by hugin would probably throw a fit
you'll be surprised to know that Hugin took a hand-crafted pto file with s/a/w
parameters without any problem, and ran the optimization as if they were not
there. So from that perspective, we can a
On January 2, 2011 04:19:35 pm dmg wrote:
> I will interested to look into this lens type, and potentially add a
> new projection.
>
> We believe it is a stereographic type of lens.
Michel Thoby did a comprehensive study [0]. There are some sample images
there. I contacted him for more.
Yuv
On January 2, 2011 06:35:20 pm Bruno Postle wrote:
> On Sun 02-Jan-2011 at 09:37 -0500, Yuval Levy wrote:
> >it's actually *mis* guiding. I am not against having a good assistant.
> >but the current assistant is nothing more than a blind run through the
> >different tabs with no guidance but rais
On January 2, 2011 06:35:11 pm Bruno Postle wrote:
> On Sun 02-Jan-2011 at 09:37 -0500, Yuval Levy wrote:
> >the project would be automatically updated after every new image is added,
> >incrementally.
>
> We are nowhere near having photo matching work at the speed
> necessary for this, this has t
On January 2, 2011 06:35:02 pm Bruno Postle wrote:
> On Sat 01-Jan-2011 at 17:11 -0500, Yuval Levy wrote:
> >On December 26, 2010 07:07:29 pm Bruno Postle wrote:
> >> Hugin doesn't have a usable way to share lens and camera information
> >> between users, you basically have to recalculate this ever
On January 2, 2011 05:07:11 pm Kornel Benko wrote:
> I am used to discuss first and then commit.
makes sense for non-trivial stuff.
thanks for committing.
Yuv
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