Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Stefan Peter]

Dear Michael Havens
Am 26.09.2016 um 15:18 schrieb Michael Havens:
> I get it... they got rid of the optimizer tab and moved the settings
> into Photos.

Not exactly. You still get an optimizer tab when you set the Optimize ->
Geometric setting to "Custom parameters" in the Photo tab.

With kind regards

Stefan Peter

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Michael Havens]

I get it... they got rid of the optimizer tab and moved the settings into 
Photos.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Michael Havens]

On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 3:09:51 AM UTC-4, zarl wrote:
>
> Michael Havens wrote on 26.09.16 01:18: 
> > What does 'optimize' do? I just ran almost the entire process through to 
> > the end (2 hours) when I was rereading what I hadn't done when I noticed 
> > it was said I did not optimize it. So I stopped, optimized, and started 
> > the process again. BUT what does it do? 
>
> http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Optimizer_tab 
>

Thank you for that. While reading through it I found 'optimizer tab'. I 
don't have an 'optimizer tab'. Only 'Photos', 'Masks', 'Control Points', 
and 'Stitcher' tabs. I can optimize with Edit-> optimize but no tab.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Carl von Einem]

Michael Havens wrote on 26.09.16 01:18:

What does 'optimize' do? I just ran almost the entire process through to
the end (2 hours) when I was rereading what I hadn't done when I noticed
it was said I did not optimize it. So I stopped, optimized, and started
the process again. BUT what does it do?


http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Optimizer_tab


Further, is there any benefit in running it twice... threee, four times?


I think you should start with a simple horizontal, one row set of images 
taken from a tripod (don't forget about overlap) and play with that 
through the whole process of creating a 360° panorama without having to 
care about nadir and zenith. Once you get familiar with the process, 
include nadir and zenith images in the next step.


In the "tutorials" section of http://wiki.panotools.org/ I found a link 
to -> Panorama Tools - Using The Optimizer

http://www.johnhpanos.com/optitute.htm
(maybe a bit outdated at several points but I hope you'll get the image)

You can always use the Panotools wiki as a glossary. In Firefox you can 
easily add it to your list of search engines.


I also have a feeling that your knowledge of the operating system you're 
working with is rather basic. Maybe you can also find tutorials about 
that somewhere.


Carl

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[hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Michael Havens]

What does 'optimize' do? I just ran almost the entire process through to 
the end (2 hours) when I was rereading what I hadn't done when I noticed it 
was said I did not optimize it. So I stopped, optimized, and started the 
process again. BUT what does it do? 

Further, is there any benefit in running it twice... threee, four times?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Michael Havens]

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 2:34:33 PM UTC-4, Stefan Peter wrote:
>
> Dear Michael Havens 
>
> On 25.09.2016 19:36, Michael Havens wrote: 
> > Please explain to me 2 unconnected image groups found: 
> > [0-19,21-33],[20]. 0-19 looks to me like 20 images, as does 21-33 (13 
> > images), while 20 looks like 1 image. 
>
> Yes, exactly. You have one image (number 20) that is neither connected 
> to the images 0-19 nor to the images 21-33. 
>

Thanks for detailing that. 

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Michael Havens]

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 2:34:33 PM UTC-4, Stefan Peter wrote:
>
>
> > As for the file system that runs out of space the last time I run 
> > this through and I was at my computer when the notification that I was 
> > running out of disk space appeared the notification appeared about a 
> > minute before the stitching was done. 
>
> You mean that you have been notified a minute after the fact?


I got the notification a minute or so before the job was complete.
 

>
> > "If that's the case, then setting it to be in /home would probably solve 
> > the problem, in 
> > which case the only issue is the bug with the missing PATH variable." 
> > 
> > This is the situation. 
>
> Sorry? What do you want to tell me with this? Please remember that I can 
> not read your mind and I don't have a link to your system that tells me 
> what is going on there. Did you intend to let me know that when setting 
> the tempdir to /home, your problem is solved? 
>

Yes, this solved the issue. However, I had to find the control points 
before I set  /home as hugintmp. I have said so much previously. unless 
I'm crazy and only said so in my mind and not in type.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Stefan Peter]

Dear Michael Havens

On 25.09.2016 19:36, Michael Havens wrote:
> Please explain to me 2 unconnected image groups found:
> [0-19,21-33],[20]. 0-19 looks to me like 20 images, as does 21-33 (13
> images), while 20 looks like 1 image.

Yes, exactly. You have one image (number 20) that is neither connected
to the images 0-19 nor to the images 21-33.

> Also, how do I find control points
> in the cloud images?

Sorry, I don't understand the question here. Are you asking how to find
out what control points link to/from image 20? Just set hugin to expert
mode (Interface -> Expert), switch to the control points tab, select
image 20 in the left image tab and try to find a tab in the right image
tab that borders to image 20. And yes, in this mode, you can manually
create CPs from one image to another in order to fix this problem.

> As for the file system that runs out of space the last time I run
> this through and I was at my computer when the notification that I was
> running out of disk space appeared the notification appeared about a
> minute before the stitching was done.

You mean that you have been notified a minute after the fact? Are you
aware that notification is dependant on CPU usage and (maybe) free space
on the root drive? Just imagine that enfuse has monopolized the CPU in
order to clean up the mess so all other activities had to wait for this
to have happened?

> "If that's the case, then setting it to be in /home would probably solve
> the problem, in 
> which case the only issue is the bug with the missing PATH variable."
> 
> This is the situation.

Sorry? What do you want to tell me with this? Please remember that I can
not read your mind and I don't have a link to your system that tells me
what is going on there. Did you intend to let me know that when setting
the tempdir to /home, your problem is solved?

> "So, unless your project used the root partition for its temporary files, "
> I don't know but I think this is what it did because if I find the
> control points and then reassign hugin's temp file location it does not
> run out of space.
> 
>  while [ true ]; do 
>  date +'%s'|tee -a log.log 
>  df -x tmpfs|tee -a log.log 
>  sleep 10 
>  done 
> 
> I don't have time to sit in front of my computer until hugun finishes
> the stitch right now. II'll do this after we connect the unconnected images

Sorry, I can not help you there. And I may not have the time later.

With kind regards

Stefan Peter



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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Michael Havens]

Please explain to me 2 unconnected image groups found: [0-19,21-33],[20]. 
0-19 looks to me like 20 images, as does 21-33 (13 images), while 20 looks 
like 1 image. Also, how do I find control points in the cloud images?

As for the file system that runs out of space the last time I run this 
through and I was at my computer when the notification that I was running 
out of disk space appeared the notification appeared about a minute before 
the stitching was done.

"If that's the case, then setting it to be in /home would probably solve 
the problem, in 
which case the only issue is the bug with the missing PATH variable."

This is the situation.

"So, unless your project used the root partition for its temporary files, "
I don't know but I think this is what it did because if I find the control 
points and then reassign hugin's temp file location it does not run out of 
space.

 while [ true ]; do 
 date +'%s'|tee -a log.log 
 df -x tmpfs|tee -a log.log 
 sleep 10 
 done 

I don't have time to sit in front of my computer until hugun finishes the 
stitch right now. II'll do this after we connect the unconnected images

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Sunday, 25 September 2016 at  9:50:11 +0200, Stefan Peter wrote:
> Dera Michael Havens
>
> On 24.09.2016 03:56, Michael Havens wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 3:05:29 PM UTC-4, Stefan Peter wrote:
>>
>> So, please, could you share the pto you used in this example? Please
>> put
>> it up somewhere like pastebin.com  and just
>> send the link to this mailing
>> list.
>>
>>
>> http://pastebin.com/QCX1z8Ra
>>
>
> Thank you for the pro. I managed to get a setup reasonably close to
> yours (enfuse 4.1.4 instead of 4.1.3) and this is what I found;
> ...

Thanks for following up on this.  I think I've done as much as I can,
so I'll leave it to you.  A couple of thoughts:

> And finally: I still don't know what file system runs out of space.

Yes, I've asked several times for details on this, but none were
forthcoming.

> In the "Exposure fused from any arrangement" phase of the stitching,
> enfuse/enblend use up to 16 GBytes of space in my home directory
> which would fill up your root directory (7 GBytes free),

I think it's reasonable to assume that Michael was partially following
my instructions by removing the temp directory specification, so it's
possible that the files were being written to /tmp or elsewhere on the
root file system.  But there's no way to know without the information
I asked for.  As you observer, all the df output he sent shows plenty
of space free in both directories, at least because they weren't done
concurrently.

Quite possibly there is an issue here with enfuse.  My guess is that
it really does write to the temporary directory.  If that's the case,
then setting it to be in /home would probably solve the problem, in
which case the only issue is the bug with the missing PATH variable.

> On the other hand, you don't need the "fuse from any arrangement"
> unless you have bracketed shots.

I suspect this is a problem with the Assistant, which frequently
offers this for what appears to be no good reason.  It doesn't happen
if you go via the Stitcher tab.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Stefan Peter]

Dera Michael Havens

On 24.09.2016 03:56, Michael Havens wrote:
> 
> 
> On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 3:05:29 PM UTC-4, Stefan Peter wrote:
> 
> So, please, could you share the pto you used in this example? Please
> put
> it up somewhere like pastebin.com  and just
> send the link to this mailing
> list.
> 
>  
> http://pastebin.com/QCX1z8Ra 
> 

Thank you for the pro. I managed to get a setup reasonably close to
yours (enfuse 4.1.4 instead of 4.1.3) and this is what I found;

Your project is not yet ready for prime time, hugin reports
2 unconnected image groups found: [0-19,21-33],[20]
I suppose this is where the hole in the center comes from.

Your project is not optimized. When optimizing just for position, I get
an average control distance of 18.26 with a maximum of 241.78, You
should bring down the maximum distance to around 1.0 and optimize for
"positions, view and barrel" at least.

Your shots in the middle two rows do not overlap sufficiently. This will
lead to problems finding control points and to smaller holes in the
"circumference" of the pano.

And finally: I still don't know what file system runs out of space. In
the "Exposure fused from any arrangement" phase of the stitching,
enfuse/enblend use up to 16 GBytes of space in my home directory which
would fill up your root directory (7 GBytes free), but your home
directory has around 140GBytes free and should be able to cope with this.
The maximum space used in my root directory during the stitch was only
64 MBytes and this number may have been influenced by other programs
running at the same time.

So, unless your project used the root partition for its temporary files,
I can not see why you should run out of space. The df listings you sent
to this list unfortunately do not give a clue, maybe because they have
been spaced apart to wide. If you want to, you can try to run the
following in a terminal during the stitch and send me the resulting
log.log to my private eMail:

while [ true ]; do
  date +'%s'|tee -a log.log
  df -x tmpfs|tee -a log.log
  sleep 10
done

On the other hand, you don't need the "fuse from any arrangement" unless
you have bracketed shots.


With kind regards

Stefan Peter

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Michael Havens]

I understand it now! I started with '1' while hugin starts its numbering 
with '0',so that is the right one.

On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 9:56:16 PM UTC-4, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>
>
> On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 3:05:29 PM UTC-4, Stefan Peter wrote:
>>
>> So, please, could you share the pto you used in this example? Please put 
>> it up somewhere like pastebin.com and just send the link to this mailing 
>> list.
>
>  
> http://pastebin.com/QCX1z8Ra 
>
> And another issue: Could you please let us know (again?) what versions of 
>> hugin 
>>
>
> 2016.2.0.48cb11a23351
>  
>
>> enblend 
>>
>
> 4.1.3
>  
>
>> enfuse 
>>
>
> 4.1.3
>
> I have to apologize. I got stupid last night and deleted the  status 
> report however, google drive  has a trash bin so I was able to recover 
> it.
> The log file I am sending is the last one in te series. It is not named as 
> expected so I don't know...
>

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Michael Havens]

On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 3:05:29 PM UTC-4, Stefan Peter wrote:
>
> So, please, could you share the pto you used in this example? Please put 
> it up somewhere like pastebin.com and just send the link to this mailing 
> list.

 
http://pastebin.com/QCX1z8Ra 

And another issue: Could you please let us know (again?) what versions of 
> hugin 
>

2016.2.0.48cb11a23351
 

> enblend 
>

4.1.3
 

> enfuse 
>

4.1.3

I have to apologize. I got stupid last night and deleted the  status 
report however, google drive  has a trash bin so I was able to recover 
it.
The log file I am sending is the last one in te series. It is not named as 
expected so I don't know...

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Stitching panorama...


Platform: Linux 3.19.0-32-generic x86_64
Version: 2016.2.0.48cb11a23351
Working directory: 
/home/bmike1/Documents/Business/Photography/PropertyPhotographing/Test/Panorama/3
Output prefix: DSC_0493 - DSC_0526-5

Blender: enblend 4.1.3
Exposure fusion: enfuse 4.1.3
ExifTool version: 9.46

Number of active images: 34
Output exposure value: 13.7
Canvas size: 20360x10180
ROI: (0, 0) - (20360, 10180) 
FOV: 360x180
Projection: Equirectangular(2)
Using GPU for remapping: false

Panorama Outputs:
* Exposure corrected, low dynamic range
* Exposure fused from any arrangement

First input image
Number: 0
Filename: 
/home/bmike1/Documents/Business/Photography/PropertyPhotographing/Test/Panorama/3/DSC_0493.JPG
Size: 6016x4000
Projection: Normal (rectilinear)
Response type: custom (EMoR)
HFOV: 66
Exposure value: 13.7


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Stefan Peter]

Dear Michael Havens

Thank you for the text files. However, I had some time earlier today,
when the documents on google where still available, and I think I
spotted something. However, the text files you sent are missing the log
file from the Hugin run and there I found the following issues:

Your pto is set up to create both "Exposure corrected, low dynamic
range" output (which succeeds) and "Exposure, fused from any
arrangement" which fails.

There have been plenty of error messages in this log along the lines of
"can not enfuse single file" that made me believe that you either have
not done a proper alignment of the images or have certain areas of the
pano done with varying exposures. But hen, the "Exposure corrected, low
dynamic range" image would have to fail ...

Anyhow, I can not investigate this because the Hugin log file is missing
from the text files you sent.

One other thing I remember from this log file is the fact that the error
messages "no space left on device" originated from enfuse. Now enfuse
4.x actually uses the /tmp/ directory for an image cache, but the docs
only talk about 1024 MBytes which should not be a problem with your
system. However, this "Exposure, fused from any arrangement" seems to
want to enfuse 22 images in your case. I have no idea what space
requirements such an operation would call for.

So, please, could you share the pto you used in this example? Please put
it up somewhere like pastebin.com and just send the link to this mailing
list. And I don't need the images, I can fake them just fine (thanks to
panotools).

And another issue: Could you please let us know (again?) what versions of
hugin
enblend
enfuse
You have installed?


With kind regards

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[hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Michael Havens]

oh... for anyone who reads this if you don't realize it the numbers in the 
filenames are the time in 24 hour time. Subtract 1200 from it to get 12 
hour time.

On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 9:46:52 AM UTC-4, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>

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[hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Carl von Einem]

Michael Havens wrote on 23.09.16 07:55:

I thought it was proper to place large amounts of text on a hosting
service rather than on the mailing list. Do you wish for me to place it
all on here instead?



No, please don't attach large documents to your messages.

When someone asks for "plain text" no file format like PDF or DOC is 
needed, just a simple .txt file, no formatting.


See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_text

Carl

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

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I thought it was proper to place large amounts of text on a hosting service 
rather than on the mailing list. Do you wish for me to place it all on here 
instead?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Thursday, 22 September 2016 at 19:19:57 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:
> okay here is a series of issuances of commands spread out over a period of
> time:
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2xvsVTZy4y1RzJlZ2tnRUZsRnM

Ouch, is that painful.  Don't you have the plain text?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

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Status Report is a copy of the text in the status report window that hugin 
opens for you when the panorama completes (or fails).

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Michael Havens]

okay here is a series of issuances of commands spread out over a period of 
time:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2xvsVTZy4y1RzJlZ2tnRUZsRnM

the panos I am working with this time are the files that begin "DSC_0493 - 
DSC_0526-5"

I believe what you are looking for is one of the last lines in 'status 
report'.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

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On Thursday, 22 September 2016 at  6:37:57 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:
> On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 12:00:32 AM UTC-4, Groogle wrote:
>>
>> One thing that occurs to me is that this might be swap space.  Do
>> you have swap to file enabled?  If so it could be that that is
>> filling up your root file system.  Try:
>>
>>  $ swapon -s
>
>
>> $ swapon -s
> Filename Type SizeUsed Priority
> /dev/sdb5 partition 5855656 0 -1

OK, that wasn't it, then.  It might still be worth looking at this
towards the end of stitching to see what happens to the "Used" value.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

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On Thursday, 22 September 2016 at  6:34:15 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 11:30:02 PM UTC-4, Groogle wrote:
>>
>> I'm sure that much of your issues relate to the fact that you write
>> your reply away from what you're replying to.  In case it's my
>> terminology, that recommendation is to leave the temporary directory
>> specification empty (default).
>
> Now we are running in circles. If I do that the intermediate files created
> while stitching fill up the root partition.

Do they?  So far you have presented no evidence.

> No problem though.  I'll just do as was suggested and fin control
> points with the "temporary directory specification empty (default)"
> and then set the "temporary directory specification" to the larger
> directory that can handle the intermediate files created while
> stitching.

That's exactly what I'm asking you not to do.

On Thursday, 22 September 2016 at 13:13:12 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:
> Okay, I just started a big pano with the custom temp directory set to
> default and here is ls -l /tmp and ls -l in the directory where all of the
> intermediate files are being put when I run out of disk space (like ya all
> said the intermediate files go in the directory the images are in:

I don't see anything.

> a side note- I had to leave for work so I left it running figuring it would
> just pause when I got the notice that disk space was low. I got home and
> the panorama was complete. So it looks as if I found a bug that in my case
> did not matter. Anyways here is the outputs of ls -l after I restart
> stitching and wait for the low disk space error to occur I also did df for
> the drives too:

This, too, is missing.

On Thursday, 22 September 2016 at 14:39:31 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> Sorry, i thought my mouse froze after the large pano so I flipped
> off the computer but I was messing with the wrong mouse!  (I guess
> I'll take the dead mouse off of my desk) In any case do you need
> that information I was going to give you?

If you mean the information you referred to above, definitely.  So far
there's no evidence that anything is wrong with Hugin.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

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On Thursday, 22 September 2016 at  8:13:17 +0300, Markku Kolkka wrote:
> 22.9.2016, 6.12, Greg 'groggy' Lehey kirjoitti:
>>
>> At least I have the information now, but unless nona or enblend are
>> hiding something, there's no evidence of any large files being written
>> to the temporary directory, so you might as well reset the preference
>> so that you don't have to start Hugin twice.  If you do run into the
>> root file system filling up again, take a look in the /tmp directory
>> and see what you can find.
>
> If some program uses the tmpfile() function to create temporary files
> they will not show in directory listings because they are unlinked
> during the tmpfile() call.

That's possible.  Hugin does not use tmpfile(), but it's not beyond
the bounds of possibility that some library might.

> The filesystem usage should be visible with the "du" command.

Right.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

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On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 4:13:12 PM UTC-4, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> Okay, I just started a big pano with the custom temp directory set to 
> default and here is ls -l /tmp and ls -l in the directory where all of the 
> intermediate files are being put when I run out of disk space (like ya all 
> said the intermediate files go in the directory the images are in:
>
> a side note- I had to leave for work so I left it running figuring it 
> would just pause when I got the notice that disk space was low. I got home 
> and the panorama was complete. So it looks as if I found a bug that in my 
> case did not matter. Anyways here is the outputs of ls -l after I restart 
> stitching and wait for the low disk space error to occur I also did df for 
> the drives too:
>

Sorry, i thought my mouse froze after the large pano so I flipped off the 
computer but I was messing with the wrong mouse!  (I guess I'll take the 
dead mouse off of my desk) In any case do you need that information I was 
going to give you? And I run Mint 17.3 .

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Michael Havens]

Okay, I just started a big pano with the custom temp directory set to 
default and here is ls -l /tmp and ls -l in the directory where all of the 
intermediate files are being put when I run out of disk space (like ya all 
said the intermediate files go in the directory the images are in:

a side note- I had to leave for work so I left it running figuring it would 
just pause when I got the notice that disk space was low. I got home and 
the panorama was complete. So it looks as if I found a bug that in my case 
did not matter. Anyways here is the outputs of ls -l after I restart 
stitching and wait for the low disk space error to occur I also did df for 
the drives too:


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Michael Havens]

On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 12:00:32 AM UTC-4, Groogle wrote:
>
> One thing that occurs to me is that this might be swap space.  Do you 
> have swap to file enabled?  If so it could be that that is filling up 
> your root file system.  Try: 
>
>  $ swapon -s


~ $ swapon -s
Filename Type SizeUsed Priority
/dev/sdb5 partition 5855656 0 -1
 

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

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On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 11:30:02 PM UTC-4, Groogle wrote:
>
> I'm sure that much of your issues relate to the fact that you write 
> your reply away from what you're replying to.  In case it's my 
> terminology, that recommendation is to leave the temporary directory 
> specification empty (default). 
>

Now we are running in circles. If I do that the intermediate files created 
while stitching fill up the root partition. No problem though.  I'll just 
do as was suggested and fin control points with  the "temporary directory 
specification empty (default)" and then set the "temporary directory 
specification" to the larger directory  that can handle the intermediate 
files created while stitching. 


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

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22.9.2016, 6.12, Greg 'groggy' Lehey kirjoitti:
> 
> At least I have the information now, but unless nona or enblend are
> hiding something, there's no evidence of any large files being written
> to the temporary directory, so you might as well reset the preference
> so that you don't have to start Hugin twice.  If you do run into the
> root file system filling up again, take a look in the /tmp directory
> and see what you can find.

If some program uses the tmpfile() function to create temporary files
they will not show in directory listings because they are unlinked
during the tmpfile() call. The filesystem usage should be visible with
the "du" command.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

[resequenced]

On Wednesday, 21 September 2016 at 20:24:31 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 11:12:55 PM UTC-4, Groogle wrote:
>>
>> At least I have the information now, but unless nona or enblend are
>> hiding something, there's no evidence of any large files being written
>> to the temporary directory, so you might as well reset the preference
>> so that you don't have to start Hugin twice.
>
> but the problem is that when I give it a custom temporary directory
> none of the control point detectors work.

I'm sure that much of your issues relate to the fact that you write
your reply away from what you're replying to.  In case it's my
terminology, that recommendation is to leave the temporary directory
specification empty (default).

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

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On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 11:12:55 PM UTC-4, Groogle wrote:
>
>   My guess is that whatever the problem was, 
> it has gone into hiding. 
>
>
but the problem is that when I give it a custom temporary directory none of 
the control point detectors work.
 And I meant before/after stitching has started
 

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Michael Havens]

but the problem is that when I give it a custom temporary directory none of 
the control point detectors work.

On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 11:12:55 PM UTC-4, Groogle wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, 21 September 2016 at 19:53:25 -0700, Michael Havens wrote: 
> > On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 10:38:36 PM UTC-4, Groogle wrote: 
> >> 
> >> On Wednesday, 21 September 2016 at 19:33:27 -0700, Michael Havens 
> wrote: 
> >>> In preferences->file name->Temporary directory I typed in 
> >>> "/home/bmike1/hugintmp" 
> >>> In the same location if /home/bmike1/hugintmp is present when I 
> >>> search for control points it will fail. 
> >> 
> >> We seem to be going round in circles.  I reported this issue nearly a 
> >> week ago.  What does it write to the root file system when you don't 
> >> specify a temporary directory? 
> > 
> > after searching for control points: 
> > 
> > Searching for control points... 
> > Hugin's cpfind 2016.2.0.48cb11a23351 
> > based on Pan-o-matic by Anael Orlinski 
> > 
> > Written output to /tmp/ap_res2RPWJD 
> > 
> > Written output to /tmp/haXhtqCX 
>
> OK, these are just the small PTO files, which you showed in more 
> detail in your other post. 
>
> > after stitching: 
>
> Is this your comment?  It confuses the issue.  But after stitching 
> there's nothing left to do. 
>
> At least I have the information now, but unless nona or enblend are 
> hiding something, there's no evidence of any large files being written 
> to the temporary directory, so you might as well reset the preference 
> so that you don't have to start Hugin twice.  If you do run into the 
> root file system filling up again, take a look in the /tmp directory 
> and see what you can find.  My guess is that whatever the problem was, 
> it has gone into hiding. 
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

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On Wednesday, 21 September 2016 at 19:53:25 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 10:38:36 PM UTC-4, Groogle wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday, 21 September 2016 at 19:33:27 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:
>>> In preferences->file name->Temporary directory I typed in
>>> "/home/bmike1/hugintmp"
>>> In the same location if /home/bmike1/hugintmp is present when I
>>> search for control points it will fail.
>>
>> We seem to be going round in circles.  I reported this issue nearly a
>> week ago.  What does it write to the root file system when you don't
>> specify a temporary directory?
>
> after searching for control points:
>
> Searching for control points...
> Hugin's cpfind 2016.2.0.48cb11a23351
> based on Pan-o-matic by Anael Orlinski
>
> Written output to /tmp/ap_res2RPWJD
>
> Written output to /tmp/haXhtqCX

OK, these are just the small PTO files, which you showed in more
detail in your other post.

> after stitching:

Is this your comment?  It confuses the issue.  But after stitching
there's nothing left to do.

At least I have the information now, but unless nona or enblend are
hiding something, there's no evidence of any large files being written
to the temporary directory, so you might as well reset the preference
so that you don't have to start Hugin twice.  If you do run into the
root file system filling up again, take a look in the /tmp directory
and see what you can find.  My guess is that whatever the problem was,
it has gone into hiding.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Michael Havens]

On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 10:38:36 PM UTC-4, Groogle wrote:
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> On Wednesday, 21 September 2016 at 19:33:27 -0700, Michael Havens wrote: 
> > In preferences->file name->Temporary directory I typed in 
> > "/home/bmike1/hugintmp" 
> > In the same location if /home/bmike1/hugintmp is present when I search 
> for 
> > control points it will fail. 
>
> We seem to be going round in circles.  I reported this issue nearly a 
> week ago.  What does it write to the root file system when you don't 
> specify a temporary directory? 
>
 
after searching for control points:

Searching for control points...
Hugin's cpfind 2016.2.0.48cb11a23351
based on Pan-o-matic by Anael Orlinski

Project contains the following images:
Image 0
  Imagefile: 
/home/bmike1/Documents/Business/Photography/PropertyPhotographing/Test/Panorama/3/DSC_0494.JPG
  Remapped : yes
Image 1
  Imagefile: 
/home/bmike1/Documents/Business/Photography/PropertyPhotographing/Test/Panorama/3/DSC_0495.JPG
  Remapped : yes
Image 2
  Imagefile: 
/home/bmike1/Documents/Business/Photography/PropertyPhotographing/Test/Panorama/3/DSC_0496.JPG
  Remapped : yes
Image 3
  Imagefile: 
/home/bmike1/Documents/Business/Photography/PropertyPhotographing/Test/Panorama/3/DSC_0497.JPG
  Remapped : yes
Image 4
  Imagefile: 
/home/bmike1/Documents/Business/Photography/PropertyPhotographing/Test/Panorama/3/DSC_0498.JPG
  Remapped : yes

--- Analyze Images ---
i0 : Analyzing image...
i1 : Analyzing image...
i3 : Analyzing image...
i2 : Analyzing image...
i4 : Analyzing image...

--- Find matches ---
i3 <> i4 : Found 24 matches
i2 <> i3 : Found 23 matches
i0 <> i1 : Found 25 matches
i1 <> i2 : Found 24 matches

--- Find matches for overlapping images ---

--- Write Project output ---
Written output to /tmp/ap_res2RPWJD

Detection took 42.551 seconds.

Written output to /tmp/haXhtqCX
Statistically cleaning of control points...

Removed 3 control points in step 1
Removed 6 control points in step 2

Written output to /tmp/haXhtqCX
Searching for vertical lines...
linefind is searching for vertical lines
Working on image 
/home/bmike1/Documents/Business/Photography/PropertyPhotographing/Test/Panorama/3/DSC_0494.JPG
Working on image 
/home/bmike1/Documents/Business/Photography/PropertyPhotographing/Test/Panorama/3/DSC_0495.JPG
Working on image 
/home/bmike1/Documents/Business/Photography/PropertyPhotographing/Test/Panorama/3/DSC_0497.JPG
Working on image 
/home/bmike1/Documents/Business/Photography/PropertyPhotographing/Test/Panorama/3/DSC_0496.JPG
Working on image 
/home/bmike1/Documents/Business/Photography/PropertyPhotographing/Test/Panorama/3/DSC_0498.JPG

Found 3 vertical lines


Written output to /tmp/haXhtqCX

Opened project /tmp/haXhtqCX

Project contains
5 images
1 lenses
5 stacks
90 control points

Control points statistics
Mean error: 971.36
Standard deviation: 186.23
Minimum   : 0.56
Maximum   : 1090.06
All images are connected.

Optimizing...
Optimizing Variables
Strategy 1
Average (rms) distance between Controlpoints 
after 0 iteration(s):  982.983793096836 units
Strategy 1
Average (rms) distance between Controlpoints 
after 1 iteration(s):  41.9359835841126 units
Strategy 1
Average (rms) distance between Controlpoints 
after 2 iteration(s):  6.63019692569752 units
Strategy 1
Average (rms) distance between Controlpoints 
after 3 iteration(s):  4.61077632604332 units
Strategy 1
Average (rms) distance between Controlpoints 
after 4 iteration(s):  3.01981247229104 units
Strategy 1
Average (rms) distance between Controlpoints 
after 5 iteration(s):  2.97569382964583 units
Strategy 1
Average (rms) distance between Controlpoints 
after 6 iteration(s):  2.76688043502161 units
Strategy 1
Average (rms) distance between Controlpoints 
after 7 iteration(s):  2.74875128077305 units

Optimizing Variables
Strategy 2
Average (rms) distance between Controlpoints 
after 0 iteration(s):  2.50387441947329 units
Strategy 2
Average (rms) distance between Controlpoints 
after 1 iteration(s):  2.46501866893365 units
Strategy 2
Average (rms) distance between Controlpoints 
after 2 iteration(s):  2.46298406887543 units
Strategy 2
Average (rms) distance between Controlpoints 
after 3 iteration(s):  2.46288404323768 units
Strategy 2
Average (rms) distance between Controlpoints 
after 4 iteration(s):  2.46287903562832 units
Strategy 2
Average (rms) distance between Controlpoints 
after 5 iteration(s):  2.46287877868892 units

Optimizing Variables
Strategy 1
Average (rms) distance between Controlpoints 
after 0 iteration(s):  1870.16827459187 units
Strategy 1
Average (rms) distance between Controlpoints 
after 1 iteration(s):  1211.92765038268 units
Strategy 1
Average (rms) distance between Controlpoints 
after 2 iteration(s):  602.088772194531 units
Strategy 1
Average (rms) distance between Controlpoints 
after 3 iteration(s):

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Wednesday, 21 September 2016 at 19:33:27 -0700, Michael Havens wrote:
> In preferences->file name->Temporary directory I typed in
> "/home/bmike1/hugintmp"
> In the same location if /home/bmike1/hugintmp is present when I search for
> control points it will fail.

We seem to be going round in circles.  I reported this issue nearly a
week ago.  What does it write to the root file system when you don't
specify a temporary directory?

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[hugin-ptx] Re: first attempt at a spherical pano

[Michael Havens]

In preferences->file name->Temporary directory I typed in 
"/home/bmike1/hugintmp"
In the same location if /home/bmike1/hugintmp is present when I search for 
control points it will fail.

On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 10:28:54 PM UTC-4, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> or at least of a dome pano (half sphere).
> I got 34 images and when I first load the images everything seems cool but 
> when I click align I get an error . Then I click continue and it 
> says that none of my images have control points and that I need to put them 
> in manually. Any ideas as to what's wrong?
>
> ASSERT INFO:
> /usr/include/wx-3.0/wx/strvararg.h(451): assert "(argtype & 
> (wxFormatStringSpecifier::value)) == argtype" failed in 
> wxArgNormalizer(): format specifier doesn't match argument type
>
> BACKTRACE:
> [1] MainFrame::RunAssistant(wxWindow*)
> [2] GLPreviewFrame::OnAlign(wxCommandEvent&)
> [3] wxAppConsoleBase::CallEventHandler(wxEvtHandler*, wxEventFunctor&, 
> wxEvent&) const
> [4] wxEvtHandler::ProcessEventIfMatchesId(wxEventTableEntryBase const&, 
> wxEvtHandler*, wxEvent&)
> [5] wxEventHashTable::HandleEvent(wxEvent&, wxEvtHandler*)
> [6] wxEvtHandler::TryHereOnly(wxEvent&)
> [7] wxEvtHandler::ProcessEventLocally(wxEvent&)
> [8] wxEvtHandler::ProcessEvent(wxEvent&)
> [9] wxWindowBase::TryAfter(wxEvent&)
> [10] wxWindowBase::TryAfter(wxEvent&)
> [11] wxWindowBase::TryAfter(wxEvent&)
> [12] wxWindowBase::TryAfter(wxEvent&)
> [13] wxEvtHandler::SafelyProcessEvent(wxEvent&)
> [14] g_signal_emit_valist
> [15] g_signal_emit
> [16] g_signal_emit_valist
> [17] g_signal_emit
> [18] g_closure_invoke
> [19] g_signal_emit_valist
> [20] g_signal_emit
> [21] gtk_propagate_event
> [22] gtk_main_do_event
> [23] g_main_context_dispatch
> [24] g_main_loop_run
> [25] gtk_main
> [26] wxGUIEventLoop::DoRun()
> [27] wxEventLoopBase::Run()
> [28] wxAppConsoleBase::MainLoop()
> [29] wxEntry(int&, wchar_t**)
> [30] main
> [31] __libc_start_main
> [32] _start
>
>
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