Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Terminology's definition on "ACL" is different from ietf-netmod-acl-model

2016-09-13 Thread John Strassner
ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Annika > Sparkles > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:51 PM > *To:* John Strassner > *Cc:* Rakesh Kumar; DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA; i2nsf@ietf.org; Linda Dunbar; > Xialiang (Frank); elopez.i...@nym.hush.com; Susan Hares > *Subject:* Re: [I2nsf] I2N

Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Terminology's definition on "ACL" is different from ietf-netmod-acl-model

2016-09-13 Thread Susan Hares
IEGO LOPEZ GARCIA <diego.r.lo...@telefonica.com>, "Xialiang (Frank)" <frank.xiali...@huawei.com> Cc: "i2nsf@ietf.org" <i2nsf@ietf.org>, Susan Hares <sha...@ndzh.com> Subject: Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Terminology's definition on "ACL" is different from

Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Terminology's definition on "ACL" is different from ietf-netmod-acl-model

2016-09-13 Thread Annika Sparkles
Regards, >> >> Rakesh >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *I2nsf <i2nsf-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of John Strassner < >> straz...@gmail.com> >> *Date: *Monday, September 12, 2016 at 5:31 PM >> *To: *Linda Dunbar <linda.dun...@

Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Terminology's definition on "ACL" is different from ietf-netmod-acl-model

2016-09-12 Thread Rakesh Kumar
, "Xialiang (Frank)" <frank.xiali...@huawei.com> Cc: "i2nsf@ietf.org" <i2nsf@ietf.org>, Susan Hares <sha...@ndzh.com> Subject: Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Terminology's definition on "ACL" is different from ietf-netmod-acl-model Hi Linda, My vote is NO. Wi

Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Terminology's definition on "ACL" is different from ietf-netmod-acl-model

2016-09-12 Thread John Strassner
September 12, 2016 1:07 PM > *To:* John Strassner <straz...@gmail.com>; Susan Hares <sha...@ndzh.com>; > i2nsf@ietf.org > *Subject:* [I2nsf] I2NSF Terminology's definition on "ACL" is different > from ietf-netmod-acl-model > > > > John, et al, > > >

Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Terminology's definition on "ACL" is different from ietf-netmod-acl-model

2016-09-12 Thread John Strassner
Hi Linda, My vote is NO. With all due respect, RFC4949 predates the acl model by almost 7 years. Furthermore, ACLs may or may not **filter** traffic. The roots of ACLs go much farther back (at least to 1997 that I can find) and, fundamentally, are permissions. A permission is not the same as

Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Terminology's definition on "ACL" is different from ietf-netmod-acl-model

2016-09-12 Thread elopez . ietf
To: John Strassner ; Susan Hares ; i2nsf@ietf.org Subject: [I2nsf] I2NSF Terminology's definition on "ACL" is different from ietf-netmod-acl-model John, et al, The “ietf-netmod-acl-model” has “ACL” defined as: An ACL is an ordered set of rules that is us

Re: [I2nsf] I2NSF Terminology's definition on "ACL" is different from ietf-netmod-acl-model

2016-09-12 Thread Natale, Bob
, BobN From: I2nsf [mailto:i2nsf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Linda Dunbar Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 1:07 PM To: John Strassner <straz...@gmail.com>; Susan Hares <sha...@ndzh.com>; i2nsf@ietf.org Subject: [I2nsf] I2NSF Terminology's definition on "ACL" is different from

[I2nsf] I2NSF Terminology's definition on "ACL" is different from ietf-netmod-acl-model

2016-09-12 Thread Linda Dunbar
John, et al, The "ietf-netmod-acl-model" has "ACL" defined as: An ACL is an ordered set of rules that is used to filter traffic on a networking device. Each rule is represented by an Access Control Entry (ACE). The "draft-ietf-i2nsf-terminology-01" has ACL as: ACL (Acess Control List): This is