Re: [I2nsf] Call for WG adoption of draft-kumar-i2nsf-client-facing-interface-req
I think that this draft has good, promising work in it. However, I do not think that it is ready, at this moment in time, for WG adoption. Here are some specific points focused on just the Abstract that I think the authors should work on to improve this draft: DRAFT: This document provides a framework ... I am missing how this framework relates to the framework draft; this needs to be covered. DRAFT: ...and information model for the definition of northbound interfaces for a security controller. I could not find an information model in this draft. While I don't expect a detailed model at this stage, I don't even see proposed classes or the beginning of a class hierarchy. DRAFT The interfaces are based on user-intent instead of vendor-specific or device-centric approaches... There are too many subjects that are attempted to be covered! User-intent is a subject by itself - a big one. There isn't even a definition in I2NSF of this term, let alone in the industry . I would strongly recommend that this be moved into a separate draft. DRAFT The document identifies the common interfaces needed to enforce the user-intent based policies onto network security functions (NSFs) irrespective of how those functions are realized. How can you define a set of interfaces when there is no definition of user-intent based policies? I'm not even sure what a "user-intent based policy is", best regards, John On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Linda Dunbar <linda.dun...@huawei.com> wrote: > Dear WG: > > > > This email serves as a call for WG adoption of > draft-kumar-i2nsf-client-facing-interface-req > as a WG document. The call for adoption will run for 2 weeks ending Oct 5, > 2016. > > The requirement document is one of the key deliverables specified by the > I2NSF charter. > > > > Please note that this is a call for adoption, and not a last call for > content of the document. Adopting a WG document simply means that the WG > will focus its efforts on that particular draft going forward, and use that > document for resolving open issues and documenting the WG’s decisions. > > > > Please indicate whether you support adoption for not, and if not why. > Issues you have with the current document itself can also be raised, but > they should be raised in the context of what should be changed in the > document going forward, rather than a pre-condition for adoption. > > > > Finally, now is also a good time to poll for knowledge of any IPR that > applies to this draft, in line with the IPR disclosure obligations for WG > participants (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you > are listed as a document author please respond to this email (to the > chairs) whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR > > https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-kumar-i2nsf-client- > facing-interface-req-00.txt > > > > > > Authors: there are some editorial changes needed to comply with the I2NSF > terminologies that the WG has agreed, in particular: > > -Abstract: needs to change the starting sentence to “This > document provides a framework and requirement ….” > > -Change all reference of “North Bound Interface” to > “Client/consumer facing interface”. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Linda & Adrian > > > > ___ > I2nsf mailing list > I2nsf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2nsf > > -- regards, John ___ I2nsf mailing list I2nsf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2nsf
Re: [I2nsf] Call for WG adoption of draft-kumar-i2nsf-client-facing-interface-req
HI Ed, I would be happy to address your concerns and/or incorporate new ideas you may have into the draft as we proceed in the WG. We would definitely take suggestions about the content and way to express requirements. Regards, Rakesh From: I2nsf <i2nsf-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of "elopez.i...@nym.hush.com" <elopez.i...@nym.hush.com> Date: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 11:41 AM To: Linda Dunbar <linda.dun...@huawei.com>, "i2nsf@ietf.org" <i2nsf@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [I2nsf] Call for WG adoption of draft-kumar-i2nsf-client-facing-interface-req I am good with the framework, but I have reservations on the functional and operational requirements. I'm good to adopt this as a WG document, in the intent that we need to focus our effort on this, but I'm not comfortable with the content in its current state - Ed On 9/21/2016 at 1:55 PM, "Linda Dunbar" <linda.dun...@huawei.com> wrote: Dear WG: This email serves as a call for WG adoption of draft-kumar-i2nsf-client-facing-interface-req as a WG document. The call for adoption will run for 2 weeks ending Oct 5, 2016. The requirement document is one of the key deliverables specified by the I2NSF charter. Please note that this is a call for adoption, and not a last call for content of the document. Adopting a WG document simply means that the WG will focus its efforts on that particular draft going forward, and use that document for resolving open issues and documenting the WG’s decisions. Please indicate whether you support adoption for not, and if not why. Issues you have with the current document itself can also be raised, but they should be raised in the context of what should be changed in the document going forward, rather than a pre-condition for adoption. Finally, now is also a good time to poll for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, in line with the IPR disclosure obligations for WG participants (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author please respond to this email (to the chairs) whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-kumar-i2nsf-client-facing-interface-req-00.txt Authors: there are some editorial changes needed to comply with the I2NSF terminologies that the WG has agreed, in particular: -Abstract: needs to change the starting sentence to “This document provides a framework and requirement ….” -Change all reference of “North Bound Interface” to “Client/consumer facing interface”. Thank you, Linda & Adrian ___ I2nsf mailing list I2nsf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2nsf
Re: [I2nsf] Call for WG adoption of draft-kumar-i2nsf-client-facing-interface-req
I am good with the framework, but I have reservations on the functional and operational requirements. I'm good to adopt this as a WG document, in the intent that we need to focus our effort on this, but I'm not comfortable with the content in its current state - Ed On 9/21/2016 at 1:55 PM, "Linda Dunbar" wrote: Dear WG: This email serves as a call for WG adoption of draft-kumar-i2nsf-client-facing-interface-req as a WG document. The call for adoption will run for 2 weeks ending Oct 5, 2016. The requirement document is one of the key deliverables specified by the I2NSF charter. Please note that this is a call for adoption, and not a last call for content of the document. Adopting a WG document simply means that the WG will focus its efforts on that particular draft going forward, and use that document for resolving open issues and documenting the WG’s decisions. Please indicate whether you support adoption for not, and if not why. Issues you have with the current document itself can also be raised, but they should be raised in the context of what should be changed in the document going forward, rather than a pre-condition for adoption. Finally, now is also a good time to poll for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, in line with the IPR disclosure obligations for WG participants (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author please respond to this email (to the chairs) whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-kumar-i2nsf-client-facing-interface-req-00.txt Authors: there are some editorial changes needed to comply with the I2NSF terminologies that the WG has agreed, in particular: -Abstract: needs to change the starting sentence to “This document provides a framework and requirement ….” -Change all reference of “North Bound Interface” to “Client/consumer facing interface”. Thank you, Linda & Adrian ___ I2nsf mailing list I2nsf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2nsf
Re: [I2nsf] Call for WG adoption of draft-kumar-i2nsf-client-facing-interface-req
Hi, Im my view, the -00 version is not mature enough to be adopted. Adopting a -00 is rather unusual for good reasons: before WG adoption drafts usually need to gather comments and increase the consensus they can reach within the community. In particular, I would have liked to see a -01 version addressing the comments I originally shared on the list at the beginning of August. Be goode, On 21 Sep 2016, at 19:54 , Linda Dunbar <linda.dun...@huawei.com<mailto:linda.dun...@huawei.com>> wrote: Dear WG: This email serves as a call for WG adoption of draft-kumar-i2nsf-client-facing-interface-req as a WG document. The call for adoption will run for 2 weeks ending Oct 5, 2016. The requirement document is one of the key deliverables specified by the I2NSF charter. Please note that this is a call for adoption, and not a last call for content of the document. Adopting a WG document simply means that the WG will focus its efforts on that particular draft going forward, and use that document for resolving open issues and documenting the WG’s decisions. Please indicate whether you support adoption for not, and if not why. Issues you have with the current document itself can also be raised, but they should be raised in the context of what should be changed in the document going forward, rather than a pre-condition for adoption. Finally, now is also a good time to poll for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, in line with the IPR disclosure obligations for WG participants (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author please respond to this email (to the chairs) whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-kumar-i2nsf-client-facing-interface-req-00.txt Authors: there are some editorial changes needed to comply with the I2NSF terminologies that the WG has agreed, in particular: -Abstract: needs to change the starting sentence to “This document provides a framework and requirement ….” -Change all reference of “North Bound Interface” to “Client/consumer facing interface”. Thank you, Linda & Adrian ___ I2nsf mailing list I2nsf@ietf.org<mailto:I2nsf@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2nsf -- "Esta vez no fallaremos, Doctor Infierno" Dr Diego R. Lopez Telefonica I+D http://people.tid.es/diego.lopez/ e-mail: diego.r.lo...@telefonica.com Tel:+34 913 129 041 Mobile: +34 682 051 091 -- ___ I2nsf mailing list I2nsf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2nsf
[I2nsf] Call for WG adoption of draft-kumar-i2nsf-client-facing-interface-req
Dear WG: This email serves as a call for WG adoption of draft-kumar-i2nsf-client-facing-interface-req as a WG document. The call for adoption will run for 2 weeks ending Oct 5, 2016. The requirement document is one of the key deliverables specified by the I2NSF charter. Please note that this is a call for adoption, and not a last call for content of the document. Adopting a WG document simply means that the WG will focus its efforts on that particular draft going forward, and use that document for resolving open issues and documenting the WG's decisions. Please indicate whether you support adoption for not, and if not why. Issues you have with the current document itself can also be raised, but they should be raised in the context of what should be changed in the document going forward, rather than a pre-condition for adoption. Finally, now is also a good time to poll for knowledge of any IPR that applies to this draft, in line with the IPR disclosure obligations for WG participants (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author please respond to this email (to the chairs) whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-kumar-i2nsf-client-facing-interface-req-00.txt Authors: there are some editorial changes needed to comply with the I2NSF terminologies that the WG has agreed, in particular: -Abstract: needs to change the starting sentence to "This document provides a framework and requirement " -Change all reference of "North Bound Interface" to "Client/consumer facing interface". Thank you, Linda & Adrian ___ I2nsf mailing list I2nsf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2nsf
