Re: [IAEP] Sugar Application Stack

2008-11-12 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 20:03, C.W. Holeman II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where does this go in the sugarlabs.org web site? Or is it already there? http://sugarlabs.org/go/Taxonomy assigns names to some of the things on your diagram, but your diagram is probably worth putting on a separate page.

Re: [IAEP] Scratch license

2008-11-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tom, Bill and others, On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:34:28PM -0500, Tom Hoffman wrote: Scratch is, or should be a trademark. [details snipped] Mozilla has very strict terms for trademark use -- so much so that it is called Iceweasel in Debian:

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar Camp Cambridge 17-21 Nov

2008-11-12 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Rob, On this: I already added some of these above things to the roadmap wiki page as things to try and improve in 9.1. I'm not sure I found the place where you recorded that. Did you by any chance add it to the XO Feature Roadmap? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Feature_roadmap There are some

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar Camp Cambridge 17-21 Nov

2008-11-12 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Rob, On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:48 AM, Robert McQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bernie, Brendan, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Brendan R. Powers wrote: I would like to propose a discussion on making the collaboration a bit more standards compliant. The idea would be to get sugar to function

[IAEP] Requiring to send out a meeting agenda

2008-11-12 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello, I propose that we make sending out an agenda for all of our meeting a required step. We was supposed to have a Deployment meeting today, people came for it, but it didn't happen. That really sucks imo and we should be careful about not repeating it. I'm sure this will happen less often as

Re: [IAEP] Scratch license

2008-11-12 Thread Tom Hoffman
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Bill Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch Resnick responded to my query as follows. I replied by saying I was not an expert on licensing and / or open source but that people on the IAEP list (and Tom) would be certain to provide some useful feedback. Hi Bill.

Re: [IAEP] Volunteer-driven development of educational software

2008-11-12 Thread Greg Dekoenigsberg
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Caroline Meeks wrote: World wide there are many programmers paid to create and maintain activities with strong pedagogical elements intended solely for kids.  Many of these activities are distributed without cost and some are open source.  Some that I'm familiar with are

Re: [IAEP] Requiring to send out a meeting agenda

2008-11-12 Thread Walter Bender
This one was my fault. I got my times mixed up. In my defense, I did post an agenda on the wiki in the meeting section of the Deployment Team pages. Next week won't work for me as I'll be over the Atlantic, but I will work with you to put together an agenda before hand. @Marco, I guess the

Re: [IAEP] Requiring to send out a meeting agenda

2008-11-12 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Hello Marco. Deployment meeting is scheduled for november 19, per: http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTea/Meetings#2008-11-19_meeting we will send an agenda before it happens, and agree with you, we should always send an agenda before the meetings if not the meeting is not going. cheers!.

Re: [IAEP] Kicking off the Sugar Labs marketing team: wanna play?

2008-11-12 Thread Greg Dekoenigsberg
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Caroline Meeks wrote: I'd like to help.  Are you around Cambridge next week? Absolutely. We're gonna have a lot to talk about. :) --g On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all.  I'd like to have a formal kick-off

Re: [IAEP] Announcing Fedora Sugar Spin!

2008-11-12 Thread Greg Dekoenigsberg
Thanks for the detailed analysis, Morgan. Much appreciated. --g On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Morgan Collett wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 18:02, Greg Dekoenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Bill Kerr wrote: Meaning what, exactly? Can you be more specific? Well, it's

Re: [IAEP] Announcing Fedora Sugar Spin!

2008-11-12 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 18:02, Greg Dekoenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Bill Kerr wrote: Meaning what, exactly? Can you be more specific? Well, it's meant to be possible for collaboration to work out of the box. This did not happen with Wolfgang's Live CD

[IAEP] AMO patch set accepted

2008-11-12 Thread David Farning
After lingering purgatory, aka Mozilla's Bugzilla, for the last couple of months, the first set of patches to allow amo to serve Sugar activities has made it into the upstream tree:-/ Looks like I can pick this back up. david ___ IAEP -- It's An

Re: [IAEP] AMO patch set accepted

2008-11-12 Thread Greg Dekoenigsberg
BRILLIANT. Well done, David. This is a Big Deal. --g On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, David Farning wrote: After lingering purgatory, aka Mozilla's Bugzilla, for the last couple of months, the first set of patches to allow amo to serve Sugar activities has made it into the upstream tree:-/ Looks

Re: [IAEP] Announcing Fedora Sugar Spin!

2008-11-12 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 20:23 +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 18:02, Greg Dekoenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Bill Kerr wrote: Meaning what, exactly? Can you be more specific? Well, it's meant to be possible for collaboration to work

Re: [IAEP] AMO patch set accepted

2008-11-12 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Yup, congrats, David. That remembers me I have one patch in the purgatory to take care of... Regards, Tomeu On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BRILLIANT. Well done, David. This is a Big Deal. --g On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, David Farning wrote:

Re: [IAEP] Volunteer-driven development of educational software

2008-11-12 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Caroline Meeks wrote: World wide there are many programmers paid to create and maintain activities with strong pedagogical elements intended solely for kids. Many of these activities are

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar Camp Cambridge 17-21 Nov

2008-11-12 Thread Mel Chua
Bernie and I just took a look at the CIC spaces; they are beautiful. We're using the same space for the Monday night hackathon (especially invited: new contributors). I'll send out another email about that in a moment. -Mel On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [IAEP] Sugar packages for non-mainstream distros

2008-11-12 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:11 AM, Aleksey Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just some thoughts and some practices (specific?) of Sugar packaging process http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam/jhconvert Sounds very very similar to what Guy (in cc) has been doing for debian! Marco

[IAEP] wiki vs infrastructure component

2008-11-12 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Tickets 4, 5, 6, 12 should really be assigned to wiki or am I missing something? Marco ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Scratch license

2008-11-12 Thread Pamela Jones
Might I suggest that you contact the Software Freedom Law Center? They do stuff like this precisely. Trying to do a license without a lawyer these days is like pinning a bull's eye on your project. PJ Jonas Smedegaard wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tom, Bill and

Re: [IAEP] wiki move ReleaseTeam to DevelopmentTeam/Release

2008-11-12 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:16 AM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a heads up. I moved ReleaseTeam to DevelopmentTeam/Release and deleted the related cruft. Please let me know if anything major broke. Thanks for taking care of it David! Marco

[IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
In the interest of trying to make room for the unexpected around the Nov 17 G1G1 launch, I've tried to compress most of the technical talks into a single day, Wed. Nov 19. There will be plenty of flex time during the rest of the week to get to topics not covered, delve in depth, or try to hack

Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:07 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this schedule seem reasonable to others? (Esp. those I've pencilled in for talks?) If you are going to be in town, made a 9.1 proposal (or forgot to), and aren't listed above, let me know. I should have also

Re: [IAEP] coming to Sugarcamp

2008-11-12 Thread Bryan Berry
Subject: [IAEP] Are you coming to Sugarcamp? Unfortunately, won't make it. I will be in the Boston for much of January. Is XOCamp still in the works following FUDCon? Tony Anderson and I were both planning to attend. -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org

Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:11 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:07 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this schedule seem reasonable to others? (Esp. those I've pencilled in for talks?) If you are going to be in town, made a 9.1 proposal

Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:07 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4pm: Internationalization (Marco, C. Scott, possibly Saymindu by phone and/or cjb on language learning) I'm not giving talks about i18n :) Marco ___ IAEP -- It's An

Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:18 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like Bernie start a on-line schedule at http://sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugarcamp Yes, Bernie and I are working together on this. I just thought I'd post a proposal to the list in general to find out if I'm totally

Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:07 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4pm: Internationalization (Marco, C. Scott, possibly Saymindu by phone and/or cjb on language learning) I'm not giving talks about i18n

Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope there are gobby sessions for all events, and that they are more brainstorming and writing than presentation and recording video. No. Wednesday talks are well-structured, compressed data, idea, open question and

Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:07 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this schedule seem reasonable to others? (Esp. those I've pencilled in for talks?) If you are going to be in town, made a 9.1

Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:39 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope there are gobby sessions for all events, and that they are more brainstorming and writing than presentation and recording video. No.

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if (a) I understand how Bernie's schedule (Talk:Sugarcamp) works; but (b) Friday morning at 9am is the only time that works for Evangelina, who is able to jooin us for the Portfolio discussion. I don't think we'll