On 2 Jan 2009, at 05:32, Bryan Berry wrote:
There are 200-300 flash developers in Nepal and about 2 guys that have
written pygtk apps (maybe once). The numbers are more extreme in
Bangladesh, India, Pakistan. We can't bet on mass #'s of programmers
suddenly becoming linux developers in order
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 03:09 -0500, Chris Ball wrote:
Hi Bryan,
Developing learning activities requires the developer already know
something about programming. In Nepal, China, India that means they
have at least a pirated copy of Windows and possibly Adobe Flash.
If they
I think Bryan's idea is wonderfully practical. What's more, it sounds easy
to achieve. You just need a 'swf-activity' launcher, and a script to
sugarize .SWF files into .xo bundles which launch as fullscreen activities.
Building it around Browse is probably a bad idea (re: the .xol
Bryan, I appreciate you raising this discussion thread. Unequivocally,
We need to make it easier for everyone to contribute.
In regard to your essay, I think it is important in this discussion to
make a clearer distinction between (1) the constraints on FLOSS
development in the developing world
Bryan, as usual, brings up great suggestions that require stepping outside
of our preconceptions.
Regarding Wade's comment, I have just provisioned an XO with Teapot's
Intrepid Ibex as popularized at olpcnews (beautiful package, btw). It
comes with tubewatcher, a script using clive to download a
Hi,
without needing to get into what is better for our deployments, I do
see value in making easier to make Sugar activities using technologies
such as HTML, CSS, etc
Bryan, can we get into a more detailed view on what it would take
ideally to create a new activity using such activities? Which
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 12:30 -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote:
I think Bryan's idea is wonderfully practical. What's more, it sounds
easy to achieve. You just need a 'swf-activity' launcher, and a
script to sugarize .SWF files into .xo bundles which launch as
fullscreen activities.
that's a
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 12:46 -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
Bryan, I appreciate you raising this discussion thread. Unequivocally,
We need to make it easier for everyone to contribute.
Thanks for your support!
In regard to your essay, I think it is important in this discussion to
make a clearer
Because it may help others on this list, here's a reply I received
regarding my problem with Flash on the XO. Carlos Nazareno wrote:
Hi Stan!
I'm having problems: Adobe FlashPlayer doesn't detect the XO's built-in
webcam so it can't transmit video out to the Internet on
The work we did for WikiBrowse (the WikipediaES and WikipediaEN) activities
would make a good starting point.
First of all the Browse code should be integrated into Sugar. This has been
discussed before, and makes sense since you guys are maintaining the Browse
activity anyway.
The Browse code
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote:
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 12:46 -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
Bryan, I appreciate you raising this discussion thread. Unequivocally,
We need to make it easier for everyone to contribute.
Thanks for your support!
In regard to
this is neat Wade.
It is a little more heavy weight for some activities. both google gears,
flash, and the flash framework flex have some nice lightweight
persistence functionality.
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 14:32 -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote:
The work we did for WikiBrowse (the WikipediaES and
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote:
I don't think anyone is arguing that we should preclude people from
using whatever tools they have at hand.
I think the question is how well the Sugar community *supports* using using
a particular tool (Flash,
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 14:54 -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote:
I don't understand the construing of constructionism with exclusively
high-level math and science and I don't quite what you mean
by
foundational skills. I don't think anyone would argue that
we don't
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote:
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 14:54 -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote:
I don't understand the construing of constructionism with exclusively
high-level math and science and I don't quite what you mean
by
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 15:18 -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
I think we have consensus on three issues:
(1) We should try to support better integration of more development
environments into Sugar (e.g., cookbook Flash and Javascript support
of the Journal);
(2) We should encourage Activity
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 15:18 -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
(3) We need lots more Activities.
While there is consensus on this point, there is not consensus on the
best way to get a lot more Activities. That is, pulling a lot more
developers into building learning activities that run on Sugar.
--
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote:
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 15:18 -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
(3) We need lots more Activities.
While there is consensus on this point, there is not consensus on the
best way to get a lot more Activities. That is, pulling a
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 12:25:13PM -0800, Bryan Berry wrote:
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 15:18 -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
(3) We need lots more Activities.
While there is consensus on this point, there is not consensus on the
best way to get a lot more Activities. That is, pulling a lot more
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote:
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 12:25:13PM -0800, Bryan Berry wrote:
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 15:18 -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
(3) We need lots more Activities.
While there is consensus on this point, there is not consensus on
You can view the flash-based activities OLE Nepal is developing in your
regular web browser. We have them stored in our online E-LIbrary
http://www.pustakalaya.org/external-content/static/epaath/E-Paath-2.activity/activity/Activity/MenuStage.html
1) Click on a grade in the upper-lefthand corner
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 04:01:34PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote:
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 12:25:13PM -0800, Bryan Berry wrote:
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 15:18 -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
(3) We need lots more Activities.
While
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote:
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 04:01:34PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote:
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 12:25:13PM -0800, Bryan Berry wrote:
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at
If you have used TuxType, you will know that it's a simplistic typing
*practice game* and in no way teaches the user how to type.
That said, there are typing programs out there that could work. I just
wanted to make a nice one for Sugar.
-Wade
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Sascha Silbe
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 06:12:40PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
Can you please cite a few examples to help ground me further?
Let's try:
* the Etoys/Debian fight?
* the F6/F7 timeframe Java fight?
* the Debian/Fedora fight? (and the Ubuntu/Debian fight?)
* the activity packaging formats
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote:
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 06:12:40PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
Can you please cite a few examples to help ground me further?
Let's try:
* the Etoys/Debian fight?
* the F6/F7 timeframe Java fight?
* the
I'm following the format used by programs like MicroType and Mavis Beacon
Teaches Typing (what I personally learned on). Both have demo versions for
Windows available.
TT will be simple compared with these programs, but they are the general
template.
We are working towards an alpha in early
Hey Silas,
Good to hear from you and hope you are having a good holiday season!
I have cced the iaep mailing list so other can chime in.
Silas is the coordinator of the University of Wisconsin OLPC sutudent
org. John Wiley, the former Dean of the School of Engineering,
purchased 100 XOs.
In addition to the essential ideas discussed below, we need to have a
discussion of skill, and the appropriate kinds of practice for
achieving it. We have ample proof that reading cannot be taught simply
as a classroom subject. Those who catch the reading bug, and read all
sorts of things that no
Hi,
I have to put my 2 cents into this dialog between David and Silas.
First, regarding sterilization of an XO, David wrote:
David Farning wrote:
Did I mention that once I soaked my xo in bleach for five minutes when
someone wanted to know if they could take an XO to their child who was
in
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote:
If you have used TuxType, you will know that it's a simplistic typing
*practice game* and in no way teaches the user how to type.
That said, there are typing programs out there that could work. I just
wanted to make a nice
Nicholas has a budget for this sort of thing, but the rest of us will
need funding, so we should get on with it. The cheapest flight I see
today for the dates given in April is $1395 on British Airways. It's
about $400 more for a hotel for three nights.
I would like to see Nicholas demonstrate
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