Re: [IAEP] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
FWIW, as a (upstream) Sugar developer what I would like to see is: == Further separation between upstream and downstreams == Without artificially privileging nor discriminating any downstream. So a big +1 to giving a stronger identity to the SoaS project and to creating a separate mailing list.

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-15 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/15/2009 10:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: FWIW, as a (upstream) Sugar developer what I would like to see is: == Further separation between upstream and downstreams == Without artificially privileging nor discriminating any downstream. So a big +1 to giving a stronger identity to the SoaS

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:10, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: FWIW, as a (upstream) Sugar developer what I would like to see is: == Further separation between upstream and downstreams == Without artificially

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: We already have de...@lists.laptop.org for OLPC, fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com and others for Fedora, debian-olpc-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org for Debian, ubuntu-sugart...@lists.ubuntu.com for Ubuntu. Why SoaS would be

[IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Road to Sucrose 0.86 - status report (2)

2009-09-15 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, we are making good progress towards our release. Here are some status updates: b) Release notes: - I have started the work here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.86/Notes - Fructose activity authors have been invited to use the template [1] and add their individual notes [2]. [1]

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Road to Sucrose 0.86 - status report (2)

2009-09-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 13:43, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Check out the constant bug workflow of Gary for example. He does not only file bugs, he follows up on questions from the developers and he helps triaging. A good start is to follow up on the bugs you filed, see if it

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Road to Sucrose 0.86 - status report (2)

2009-09-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 13:43, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Aleksey reports: - Latest packages for Ubuntu karmic can be tried out at: https://launchpad.net/~alsroot/+archive/sugar-0.86, instructions are at:

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-15 Thread Philippe Clérié
So you probably disagreed with my statement that SoaS is not about installing user files to a hard drive. Or do you mean having the Base OS on the drive, but the user files/activities directory on a stick? My use case does not require the user's environment to be portable. At least for

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

2009-09-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/9/15 Philippe Clérié phili...@gcal.net: So you probably disagreed with my statement that SoaS is not about installing user files to a hard drive.  Or do you mean having the Base OS on the drive, but the user files/activities directory on a stick? My use case does not require the user's

Re: [IAEP] Real music learning in The Beatles: Rock Band

2009-09-15 Thread Alan Kay
At PARC in the 70s we encouraged the children (12 and 13 year olds in this case) to think about the possible positives and negatives of using computers for things they were interested in. The most interesting ethic that came out of this was Don't automate the center of your art/interests. And

Re: [IAEP] Where should we put Lesson Plans? Currwiki?

2009-09-15 Thread Edward Cherlin
+1, except not just PDFs. We have much better presentation formats, such as Scratch, Turtle Art Portfolio, and Etoys presentation objects. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Thank Martin! Your email really helped me. Here is my current thinking on

[IAEP] SLOBs Position on SoaS

2009-09-15 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Let me rephrase again, to make things clear. I'd love to hear an official answer on this. Soon. Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution? --Sebastian ___ IAEP -- It's An Education

[IAEP] Wiki wysiwyg toolbar wish

2009-09-15 Thread Dennis Daniels
Greetings, I have a few requests for the media wiki pages in terms of UI additions and plugins. The first one is my biggest wish... *please enable the WYSIWYG tool bar for editing. * enable plugin for video playback in wiki * install plugin for creating FAQ layout easily Nice to

Re: [IAEP] Wiki wysiwyg toolbar wish

2009-09-15 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Dennis Daniels dennisgdani...@gmail.comwrote: Greetings, I have a few requests for the media wiki pages in terms of UI additions and plugins. The first one is my biggest wish... *please enable the WYSIWYG tool bar for editing. * enable plugin for

Re: [IAEP] Wiki wysiwyg toolbar wish

2009-09-15 Thread Frederick Grose
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Dennis Daniels dennisgdani...@gmail.comwrote: Greetings, I have a few requests for the media wiki pages in terms of UI additions and plugins. The first one is my biggest wish... *please enable the WYSIWYG tool bar for editing. * enable plugin for

Re: [IAEP] Bug reporting

2009-09-15 Thread Caroline Meeks
hi Dennis, I share your dissatisfaction. Luke and I and others looked at two alternatives. Get Satisfaction and LaunchPad. Neither are perfect but LaunchPad is open source and helpful so we are leaning that way. Here is a possible vision the Teacher/End user bug reporting. We add a link to

Re: [IAEP] Bug reporting

2009-09-15 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Dennis, On 16 Sep 2009, at 04:40, Dennis Daniels wrote: Greetings, I have roughly diagrammed the bug reporting process for Sugar here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Reporting_a_bug.png -- snip -- The tool I'm using for the diagrams is Umbrello. I'd be happy to post the XMI to these