Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-07 Thread Yama Ploskonka
I apologize. As a member of PlayPower, I will have to help them see what is happening in Uruguay, that 400 K computers have been delivered, albeit the issue of content useful for the classroom is not yet solved there either. On 11/8/09, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:33 PM, S

Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-07 Thread Yama Ploskonka
Elonex One clones are available right now for about $75 USD in quantities over 100. They were released original well after the XO 1, and have about similar hardware. Originally they sold for about $300. The XO seems to be about the only one defying Moore's :-) While the (heavily subsidized) pri

Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote: > The non ASCII is a complication, but changing binaries was very popular > in Brazil in the 1980s (the copyright law here was only extended to > software in 1987). I am argentine, and grew up "patching" binaries on the C=64. It's been do

Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-07 Thread Jecel Assumpcao Jr
Martin Langhoff wrote: > Interesting. Though the challenge they have -- localising closed src > binaries... to non ASCII-using locales -- is rather hard. The non ASCII is a complication, but changing binaries was very popular in Brazil in the 1980s (the copyright law here was only extended to soft

Re: [IAEP] scratch gone missing

2009-11-07 Thread Bill Kerr
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > > On 07.11.2009, at 04:48, Bill Kerr wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Tomeu Vizoso > > wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 11:10, Bill Kerr wrote: > >> > http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/browse/type:1/cat:107 > >>

Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-07 Thread Sean DALY
there is unfortunately no shortage of very misinformed comment, e.g.: http://www.timeslive.co.za/opinion/columnists/article182183.ece On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Sean DALY wrote: >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/04/pl

Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Sean DALY wrote: > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/04/playpower-80s-computing-21st-century Interesting. Though the challenge they have -- localising closed src binaries... to non ASCII-using locales -- is rather hard. Hard not to note the very misin

Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-07 Thread Jecel Assumpcao Jr
Caroline Meeks wrote: > Anyone know these guys? I had a chat with them. > I wonder how feasible it would be down the road to share content. > The games they are porting seem like they would also be good for Sugar. All you need is a NES (Nitendo Entertainment System) emulator as a Sugar activity

Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-07 Thread Caroline Meeks
Anyone know these guys? I wonder how feasible it would be down the road to share content. The games they are porting seem like they would also be good for Sugar. On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Sean DALY wrote: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/04/playpower-80s-computing-21st-ce

Re: [IAEP] scratch gone missing

2009-11-07 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Saturday 07 November 2009 09:18:05 am Bill Kerr wrote: > No but it should be there since Scratch has a far better UI than Etoys I have seen kids play with both Scratch and Etoys and I wouldn't pit them against each other. They appeal to different sets of children. Scratch appeals to a younger

Re: [IAEP] scratch gone missing

2009-11-07 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 07.11.2009, at 04:48, Bill Kerr wrote: > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Tomeu Vizoso > wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 11:10, Bill Kerr wrote: >> > http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/browse/type:1/cat:107 >> > How come scratch is no longer available for sugar? >> > (the link is