Re: [IAEP] (engineering) capacity building

2009-07-21 Thread Caroline Meeks
As an aside, I don't believe too much in the scratch your own itch explanation for free software volunteer coding. If you go for example planet.gnome.org and skim through the posts there while asking to yourself why these people take the time to write free software instead of watching TV, I

Re: [IAEP] (engineering) capacity building

2009-07-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 23:23, David Farningdfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:57, Sean DALYsdaly...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't thinking either of posting articles about recruitment on those places,

Re: [IAEP] (engineering) capacity building

2009-07-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:57, Sean DALYsdaly...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't thinking either of posting articles about recruitment on those places, rather to get our organization known. Most of the people that know that Sugar exists think we are part of OLPC, or that we have funding and a paid

Re: [IAEP] (engineering) capacity building

2009-07-17 Thread Sean DALY
We discussed recently making improvements to the Getting Involved page ( http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-June/001510.html ). I feel it would serve us to maintain job listings, on the Getting Involved page, linked to from each team's page and posted at the end of Walter's Sugar

Re: [IAEP] (engineering) capacity building

2009-07-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:33, Bastienbastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com writes: I agree 100% with Tomeu that recruitment needs to be targeted to where prequalified candidates are. So do I.  The best tool for FOSS people is good documentation. Alan Kay

Re: [IAEP] (engineering) capacity building

2009-07-17 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Bastien schrieb: Sugar should engage developers in *learning* rather than give them the impression the number of pre-requisites is high. IMHO having a more self-contained documentation could help. I totally agree. Having such a self-contained documentation is also the reason why OLPC

Re: [IAEP] (engineering) capacity building

2009-07-17 Thread Sean DALY
I wasn't thinking either of posting articles about recruitment on those places, rather to get our organization known. Most of the people that know that Sugar exists think we are part of OLPC, or that we have funding and a paid development team or that we have abandoned the OLPC cause and are

Re: [IAEP] (engineering) capacity building

2009-07-17 Thread Bastien
David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org writes: Of the successful not-for-profits and community organizations I have studied, one of the common threads is a near maniacal emphasis on the importance of contributors feeling the impact of their contribution on the project. I think it's easier for

Re: [IAEP] (engineering) capacity building

2009-07-16 Thread David Van Assche
One thing that comes to mind here is to guerilla market in irc channels... usually these are already full of developers and its just a matter of looking at the projects around, going to their respective channels, and let them briefly know wht sugar is and ask if they have time to spend on any

Re: [IAEP] (engineering) capacity building

2009-07-16 Thread Caroline Meeks
I agree, we need to target for volunteers that already have the skills we need. I think there are a lot of open source developers who want to help but don't think they have the skills we need. For instance I wonder how many eJabber or Moodle developers know we need them? Our XS side is really