Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 13.03.2010, at 11:56, Bernie Innocenti wrote: I've spent three days in Caacupè, observing how the new F11-XO1 build is doing among our young user base. It's a great success, but for the wrong reason:

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 13:35 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: So +1 to look customization. E.g., why not allow to change the gray frame color? In Etoys you can at least change the toolbar color (not permanently though, I should fix that). Even if it enrages our latte-drinking black-wearing

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Frederick Grose
See http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/535#comment:5, Expose Journal, Home, Group, Neighborhood, Frame Sources, where it's suggested that we extend the 'Show Source' facility to more of Sugar. Learners like to exercise and demonstrate their knowledge by customizing or changing their environments.

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 08:33 -0500, Gerald Ardito wrote: By the way, how do you upgrade the XOs (we have XO-1s) to .84? This is a very big deal for us. We use a local variant of the F11-XO1 images by Stephen Parrish,

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 10:46 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 08:33 -0500, Gerald Ardito wrote: By the way, how do you upgrade the XOs (we have XO-1s) to .84? This is a very big deal for us.

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: If you ask me: our recent F11-XO1 builds have reached equal or better quality than build 801, provided you disable automatic power management. Are all activities working, including collaboration? In Gnome, can you

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 12:07 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: If you ask me: our recent F11-XO1 builds have reached equal or better quality than build 801, provided you disable automatic power management. Are all

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Forgot to answer a paragraph: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 12:07 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: If you ask me: our recent F11-XO1 builds have reached equal or better quality than build 801, provided you disable automatic

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread forster
I have been unable to install Bernie's OS67 or Steven Parrish's os12, Bernie and I have been discussing this off list. If anybody has the same problem please let us know. Detailed instructions on the installation process are at