Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Getting data about the upgrading older machines and SoaS responsiveness.

2009-06-08 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 13:03, James Zakijames.z...@gmail.com wrote: With regards to the speed issue. I tried SoaS on a USB2.0 (but not high-speed) memory-stick, performance was hideous on a macbook. Using a USB2.0 high-speed memory-stick, performance is great on an eeepc, which has 1G Ram. I

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Getting data about the upgrading older machines and SoaS responsiveness.

2009-06-08 Thread James Zaki
With regards to the speed issue. I tried SoaS on a USB2.0 (but not high-speed) memory-stick, performance was hideous on a macbook. Using a USB2.0 high-speed memory-stick, performance is great on an eeepc, which has 1G Ram. I know its not small, but its all I have to compare with for now. So from

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Getting data about the upgrading older machines and SoaS responsiveness.

2009-06-07 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm I'm not sure a BIOS will be wiling to boot from a USB port on a card. However, combined with a CD boot helper might do the trick. I have to use the CD at this point anyway. My goal is to have it boot more quickly and

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Getting data about the upgrading older machines and SoaS responsiveness.

2009-06-07 Thread Frederick Grose
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.comwrote: Let me echo Caryl's question. Do we have a page with tasks for new volunteers? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/TODO has been restored and is ready to be updated, perhaps restructured to cover this

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Getting data about the upgrading older machines and SoaS responsiveness.

2009-06-07 Thread David Van Assche
When it come to older pcs, it really makes sense to try and use LTSP. We have created a kiwi-ltsp usb stick for openSUSE, which gives a portable ltsp server wherever u plug it in. In most cases it would make sense for this to be the most powerful computer. It is as easy as installing the sugar and

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Getting data about the upgrading older machines and SoaS responsiveness.

2009-06-07 Thread David Farning
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 12:24 PM, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: When it come to older pcs, it really makes sense to try and use LTSP. We have created a kiwi-ltsp usb stick for openSUSE, which gives a portable ltsp server wherever u plug it in. In most cases it would make sense for

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Getting data about the upgrading older machines and SoaS responsiveness.

2009-06-07 Thread David Van Assche
That's a good point, and I understand the thinking behind it, as if you are not 'changing' anything in an existing setup, people are less afraid that things might go terribly wrong. That's the reason we have ltsp on a usb stick... because you can stick in a server, and test it without installing

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Getting data about the upgrading older machines and SoaS responsiveness.

2009-06-07 Thread Caroline Meeks
Thanks David great explanation. and David, I totally agree that LTSP is the right technical solution for this computer lab. Next year, perhaps we will have the level of trust and political clout to implement it. There is yet another reason I want to know if we can speed up these computers and

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Getting data about the upgrading older machines and SoaS responsiveness.

2009-06-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 7:24 PM, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: When it come to older pcs, it really makes sense to try and use LTSP. We LTSP is an excellent path. Note that a happy LTSP adventure is conditional on a good network infra and a decent TS machine. Wireless won't do.

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Getting data about the upgrading older machines and SoaS responsiveness.

2009-06-07 Thread David Farning
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 2:38 PM, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: That's a good point, and I understand the thinking behind it, as if you are not 'changing' anything in an existing setup, people are less afraid that things might go terribly wrong. That's the reason we have ltsp on a

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Getting data about the upgrading older machines and SoaS responsiveness.

2009-06-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 04:40:31PM -0500, David Farning wrote: On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 2:38 PM, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: That's a good point, and I understand the thinking behind it, as if you are not 'changing' anything in

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Getting data about the upgrading older machines and SoaS responsiveness.

2009-06-07 Thread Luke Faraone
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 18:43, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: It sound like another great, low impact (I am trying to think of a term like 'carbon foot print' to properly reflect the impact) way of bringing LTSP into the class room. polite or gentle perhaps? or non-invasive?