Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Yama Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com wrote: Elonex One clones are available right now for about $75 USD in quantities over 100.  They were released original well after the XO 1, and have about similar hardware.  Originally they sold for about $300. Again, probably

Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-09 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Yama Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com wrote: Elonex One clones are available right now for about $75 USD in quantities over 100. They were released original well after the XO 1, and have about similar hardware. Originally they sold for

Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com wrote: ROFL!!! żte tragaste un payasito? This is not a forum for trolling. And do take note that this work... is serious work for a lot of us. Not for you clearly. I don't think you know much about the strange dynamics of

Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-09 Thread Sean DALY
Yamandu, I don't think it's at all fair to imply that OLPC has attempted to corner any market. It's easy in hindsight to suggest ways some things could have been done differently or better (I do that too), but market cornering is something corporations do to other corporations or to

Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-07 Thread Caroline Meeks
Anyone know these guys? I wonder how feasible it would be down the road to share content. The games they are porting seem like they would also be good for Sugar. On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-07 Thread Jecel Assumpcao Jr
Caroline Meeks wrote: Anyone know these guys? I had a chat with them. I wonder how feasible it would be down the road to share content. The games they are porting seem like they would also be good for Sugar. All you need is a NES (Nitendo Entertainment System) emulator as a Sugar activity

Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/04/playpower-80s-computing-21st-century Interesting. Though the challenge they have -- localising closed src binaries... to non ASCII-using locales -- is rather hard. Hard not to

Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-07 Thread Jecel Assumpcao Jr
Martin Langhoff wrote: Interesting. Though the challenge they have -- localising closed src binaries... to non ASCII-using locales -- is rather hard. The non ASCII is a complication, but changing binaries was very popular in Brazil in the 1980s (the copyright law here was only extended to

Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr je...@merlintec.com wrote: The non ASCII is a complication, but changing binaries was very popular in Brazil in the 1980s (the copyright law here was only extended to software in 1987). I am argentine, and grew up patching binaries on the

Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-07 Thread Yama Ploskonka
Elonex One clones are available right now for about $75 USD in quantities over 100. They were released original well after the XO 1, and have about similar hardware. Originally they sold for about $300. The XO seems to be about the only one defying Moore's :-) While the (heavily subsidized)

Re: [IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-07 Thread Yama Ploskonka
I apologize. As a member of PlayPower, I will have to help them see what is happening in Uruguay, that 400 K computers have been delivered, albeit the issue of content useful for the classroom is not yet solved there either. On 11/8/09, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu,

[IAEP] The Guardian: PlayPower: 1980s computing for the 21st century

2009-11-05 Thread Sean DALY
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/04/playpower-80s-computing-21st-century I taught myself BASIC and then 6502 assembly language on a Commodore VIC-20 with COMPUTE! magazine back in the day. But what I really liked was the incredibly friendly little manual, such as this priceless