On Thursday 07 May 2009 07:00:44 pm Alan Kay wrote:
A good goal for the larger system -- which has to include not just what
people need in their practical life, but also what they need to understand
the issues of their society, how their society works, what their
responsibilities as citizens
On 08.05.2009, at 16:05, Kathy Pusztavari wrote:
I'll have to admit I don't have much right to request, complain, or
even
discuss. If I don't get off my butt and program something myself
then I'm
part of the problem.
I think you misunderstood Walter. You can earn community credit not
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On 08.05.2009, at 16:05, Kathy Pusztavari wrote:
I'll have to admit I don't have much right to request, complain, or
even discuss. If I don't get off my
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Albert Cahalan acaha...@gmail.com wrote:
Around here
it often seems I'm the only person willing to accept that the
independently reviewed evidence favors Direct Instruction. It's
like some kind of idealistic reality denial is going on.
By no means, Albert. You
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On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Albert Cahalan acaha...@gmail.com wrote:
Around
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Maria Droujkova writes:
I think it may be useful to distinguish tracks, and destinations to
which they lead. The real deal
Kathy, Project Follow Through was comparing a specific direct instruction
curriculum with various other unspecified curricula to teach early primary
grade skills. It was also conducted over 30 years ago. I don't think it
has much to tell us about the way to teach mathematical thinking and
Kathy Pusztavari writes:
Caroline Meeks writes:
3. Improved authoring tools and other automation tools might
reduce the level of effort required to create this content.
*Yes, this will be key. I really liked some of the ideas that
Albert Cahalan put forth - even if I didn't fully
Maria Droujkova writes:
I think it may be useful to distinguish tracks, and destinations to
which they lead. The real deal destinations are to make mathematics:
coin definitions and refine them, pose problems, form conjectures,
construct example spaces, create models and so on. Activities
is
monumental (but is there anything more important?)
Cheers,
Alan
From: Kathy Pusztavari ka...@kathyandcalvin.com
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Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 7:37:57 AM
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Listen, I don't want to argue
On 07 May 2009, at 11:55 , Albert Cahalan wrote:
Maria Droujkova writes:
I think it may be useful to distinguish tracks, and destinations to
which they lead. The real deal destinations are to make mathematics:
coin definitions and refine them, pose problems, form conjectures,
construct
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Maria Droujkova writes:
I think it may be useful to distinguish tracks, and destinations to
which they lead. The real deal destinations are to make mathematics
On 07 May 2009, at 15:30 , Alan Kay wrote:
(and the unsophisticated human brain loves this kinds of either-
or distinctions).
Dear Doctor Kay,
Those kinds of brains _hate_ being called unsophisticated!
*grin* *duck* *run*
- antoine
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On 07 May 2009, at 15:30 , Alan Kay wrote:
(and the unsophisticated human brain loves this kinds of either-or
distinctions).
Dear Doctor Kay,
Those kinds
On 07.05.2009, at 13:55, Antoine van Gelder wrote:
http://lesswrong.com/lw/3h/why_our_kind_cant_cooperate/
Very interesting read, thank you. Highly recommended, and on second
thought even highly on-topic.
- Bert -
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On 07 May 2009, at 15:56 , Alan Kay wrote:
But aren't I communicating with sophisticated human brains who do
understand that there are usually more than just either-or
distinctions?
Score!
:-D
- antoine___
IAEP -- It's An Education Project
On 07 May 2009, at 11:55 , Albert Cahalan wrote:
Maria Droujkova writes:
I think it may be useful to distinguish tracks, and destinations to
which they lead. The real deal destinations are to make mathematics:
coin definitions and refine them, pose problems, form conjectures,
construct
On 07 May 2009, at 15:30 , Alan Kay wrote:
(and the unsophisticated human brain loves this kinds of either-
or distinctions).
Dear Doctor Kay,
Those kinds of brains _hate_ being called unsophisticated!
*grin* *duck* *run*
- antoine
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Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 5:20:50 PM
Subject: [IAEP] versus, not
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Walter Bender
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote:
If the real deals are chosen, then the interesting question is what kinds
of processes will work for what kinds of learners? If it is some non-trivial
percentage of direct instruction, then this is what should be done (and
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Subject: Re: [IAEP] versus, not
My take on this over the years has excluded labels and categories for a
variety
On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 06:26:31AM -0700, Alan Kay wrote:
Tim Gallwey is one of the best teachers I've ever observed, and he
had a number of extremely effective techniques to help his students
learn the real deal very quickly
Any links for the google-impaired? I just found loads of general
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 7:10 PM
To: Kathy Pusztavari
Cc: iaep
Subject: Re: [IAEP] versus, not
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Kathy Pusztavari ka...@kathyandcalvin.com
wrote:
Bill, there is a difference between direct instruction and Direct
Instruction. The latter (big D big I
: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:47 PM
To: Kathy Pusztavari
Cc: iaep
Subject: Re: [IAEP] versus, not
Kathy,
I haven't read the books you cite but I do as a teacher frequently use
direct instruction. That was strongly implied in my initial post.
Nevertheless, I'm sure I could do it better. When I read your
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com
wrote:
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