Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 03:45:21PM -0300, Andrea Mangiatordi wrote: Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Beware that if blessing is similar to that of classic MacOS, then it includes adding a small binary piece that is *not* free software. In other

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-24 Thread Andrea Mangiatordi
Jonas Smedegaard wrote: You cannot run the currently released SoaS on a PowerPC Macintosh. That's why I wrote so I can't test it directly ;) SoaS is only currently compiled for 32bit x86, which works on amd64 but not on PowerPC. Yeah, I had to use jhbuild and precompiled ubuntu packages in

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-24 Thread Lucian Branescu
blessing would be useful for enabling 'boot from USB'. 'boot from CD' or 'boot from USB with helper CD' don't need it. 2009/5/24 Andrea Mangiatordi andrea.mangiato...@gmail.com: Jonas Smedegaard wrote: You cannot run the currently released SoaS on a PowerPC Macintosh. That's why I wrote so I

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-23 Thread Caroline Meeks
2009/5/20 Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de Note that much of the appeal of SoaS comes from not requiring to modify the machine it is about to run on. So rEFIt is no option for general use, it's not what we could recommend to teachers. +1 When I talked to a school IT person who was very

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-23 Thread James Zaki
I have a new macbook, but have seen issue 1 and not 2. Is there some sequence of usb/cd creation I should try that might produce the problem? Its intel mac only, right? My partner has a desktop mac running leopard, but its intel also. I can later try on this setup if it would be of value.

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 19:04, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: Note that much of the appeal of SoaS comes from not requiring to modify the machine it is about to run on. So rEFIt is no option for general use, it's not what we could recommend to teachers. I agree to some point but

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 01:07:09PM +1000, Roland Gesthuizen wrote: rEFIt is clean to remove, just delete the directory on the OSX partition and restart to return to the original settings. What is nice is that it gives users a better handle on

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-20 Thread Sean DALY
For completeness, here are the documented Apple OSX keyboard shortcuts, stable over the past six versions (10.0-10.5): http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1343 Potentially useful at boot time: the Option key (looks like a ski slope) to show select bootable volumes Sean On Wed, May 20, 2009 at

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-20 Thread Sean DALY
This may be helpful too: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1310 On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: For completeness, here are the documented Apple OSX keyboard shortcuts, stable over the past six versions (10.0-10.5): http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1343

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-20 Thread Lucian Branescu
rEFIt http://refit.sourceforge.net/ is akin to GRUB, but nicer. It detects and shows all boot options. 2009/5/20 Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com: This may be helpful too: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1310 On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: For completeness,

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-20 Thread Roland Gesthuizen
rEFIt is good .. we use it at our college for multiboot access (OSX, Windows, Linux etc.) I modify one file to prevent hostile access to some EFI functions. If somebody here supports the rEFIt developer with a suitable graphics and some technical support, they could include a sugar icon and ensure

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Note that much of the appeal of SoaS comes from not requiring to modify the machine it is about to run on. So rEFIt is no option for general use, it's not what we could recommend to teachers. - Bert - ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-20 Thread Lucian Branescu
s/Sugar/Sugar on a Stick/ Still, it should just show up as Linux (USB). 2009/5/20 Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 04:26:18PM +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: And is distinguishing between other linux distros and Sugar

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 04:26:18PM +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: And is distinguishing between other linux distros and Sugar even desirable? My macbook is off to be repaired so I can't test, but AFAIK both the SoaS and the .iso should be

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-20 Thread Lucian Branescu
And is distinguishing between other linux distros and Sugar even desirable? My macbook is off to be repaired so I can't test, but AFAIK both the SoaS and the .iso should be recognised as Linux by rEFIt and booted. 2009/5/20 Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:03:45PM +1000, Roland Gesthuizen wrote: If somebody here supports the rEFIt developer with a suitable graphics and some technical support, they could include a sugar icon and ensure that it is correctly detected on

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-20 Thread Lucian Branescu
Perhaps, but to me it seems a very good option, especially when compared to requiring a helper CD and an arcane key press combination . rEFIt is tiny and quite useful by itself, since the default apple bootloader doesn't offer any feedback. 2009/5/20 Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de: Note

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:04:03AM -0700, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Note that much of the appeal of SoaS comes from not requiring to modify the machine it is about to run on. So rEFIt is no option for general use, it's not what we could

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-20 Thread Roland Gesthuizen
rEFIt is clean to remove, just delete the directory on the OSX partition and restart to return to the original settings. What is nice is that it gives users a better handle on the other start up options. Regards Roland 2009/5/21 Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com And is distinguishing