Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

2009-04-29 Thread Ties Stuij
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com wrote: hard to argue against someone who is doing such great work in Nepal but I thought Bryan overplayed the local factors  too much: 10) Open Source software critical to high quality education – education has to be very

Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

2009-04-29 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Zitat von Ties Stuij cjst...@gmail.com: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com wrote: hard to argue against someone who is doing such great work in Nepal but I thought Bryan overplayed the local factors  too much: 10) Open Source software critical to high quality

Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

2009-04-29 Thread Bryan Berry
From: Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com 10) Open Source software critical to high quality education ? education has to be very customised, to the kids, the teacher, the environment and the country ? not something you can design in New York city and will fit another country

Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

2009-04-29 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Zitat von Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: Christoph wrote: So in this case it doesn't necessarily make sense for someone in Berlin (let alone New York) to design a Maths learning activity to be used in an Austrian school. I disagree w/ this. Someone in Berlin or NYC can create learning

Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

2009-04-29 Thread Rita Freudenberg
Christoph Derndorfer wrote: Zitat von Ties Stuij cjst...@gmail.com: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com wrote: hard to argue against someone who is doing such great work in Nepal but I thought Bryan overplayed the local factors too much: 10) Open Source

Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

2009-04-29 Thread Bill Kerr
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: From: Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com 10) Open Source software critical to high quality education ? education has to be very customised, to the kids, the teacher, the environment and the country ? not something you can

Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment inNepal

2009-04-29 Thread Kathy Pusztavari
This framework should allow for basic functionalities such as tracking student progress, dynamically adapting exercises to a student's capabilities and things like the basics of Maths exercises or a typing tutor to be taken care of. These basic building blocks can then be shared across the globe

Re: [IAEP] Books Books Books

2009-04-29 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:39:52PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: Yes! In theory there are thousands of free books. We need people to be able to experience that there are books available for Sugar when they try Sugar. I like the idea of hooking the readers to a library. I don't know how much

Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

2009-04-29 Thread Maria Droujkova
10) Open Source software critical to high quality education – education has to be very customised, to the kids, the teacher, the environment and the country – not something you can design in New York city and will fit another country Liping Ma argues (admittedly from small sample sizes) that

Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment in Nepal

2009-04-29 Thread Bryan Berry
On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 22:18 +0930, Bill Kerr wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org on the other hand if you are saying that you don't have time to do the educational research as well as doing everything else then that is understandable. I wouldn't criticise

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 88

2009-04-29 Thread Bryan Berry
From: Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at Mmm, I still would argue that now in some cases - especially when relevant changes end up being quite significant - it might be easier to basically start from scratch rather than adapting and modifying an existing activity. I

Re: [IAEP] Books Books Books

2009-04-29 Thread Caroline Meeks
Sounds great! Do you have an expected timeline? On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:39:52PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: Yes! In theory there are thousands of free books. We need people to be able to experience that there

Re: [IAEP] 70 minute interview with Bryan Berry on XO deployment inNepal

2009-04-29 Thread Kathy Pusztavari
How can this principle of customizable math be applied to framework development? By showing exemplars that change as you proceed through your teaching sequence. See Designing Effective Mathematical Instruction: A Direct Instruction Approach by Stein, Kinder, Silbert Carnine Theory of

[IAEP] maths instruction

2009-04-29 Thread Bill Kerr
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Kathy Pusztavari ka...@kathyandcalvin.com wrote: How can this principle of customizable math be applied to framework development? By showing exemplars that change as you proceed through your teaching sequence. See Designing Effective Mathematical

[IAEP] Project Gutenberg, etc.

2009-04-29 Thread James Simmons
Martin, I hear what you are saying. It sounds like what you want is like iTunes is, but for books. The thing is, it would have to do much more than iTunes does. iTunes has its own catalog of music for purchase. If I search for something on iTunes it doesn't have to go all over the

Re: [IAEP] Books Books Books

2009-04-29 Thread James Simmons
Edward Cherlin wrote: In actuality, actually. Not just Project Gutenberg, but Wikibooks, Creative Commons, and others. See, in particular, http://www.librarianchick.com for textbooks on any and every subject. I just checked out that site. It has a nifty search that seems to index every

Re: [IAEP] Project Gutenberg, etc.

2009-04-29 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
I wonder if you use an ebook reader? An ebook reader, similarly to a music player, needs a good way to organize and find content ON THE MACHINE to read. You aren't usually using it to read from the net -- quite the contrary. Now for a long time I used the browser to search for my books (which

Re: [IAEP] Books Books Books

2009-04-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Edward Cherlin writes: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Caroline Meeks solutiongrove at gmail.com wrote: There are supposed to be a Bible and a Qur'an for the XO. I know where the texts are for a dozen other religions, if anybody is interested in providing them. Sugar is not restricted to

Re: [IAEP] Project Gutenberg, etc.

2009-04-29 Thread James Simmons
Carol, I don't have an ebook reader, other than my XO. I do have an ipod. Now where the purpose of the ipod is to store your entire music collection in your pocket, and maybe an ebook reader could do the same thing for all your books, up until now I hadn't thought of the XO like that.

[IAEP] Planning for Sugar Camp Paris

2009-04-29 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Dear all, with the beginning of Sugar Camp Paris only being 2 weeks away from us I thought it was time to get started on some planning. While the list of attendees (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/MiniCamp_Paris_2009/Attendees) is basically a guarantee for an awesome

Re: [IAEP] [Grassroots-l] OLPC in Kindergarten

2009-04-29 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Hola Alejandro, I'm currently not aware of any other OLPC or Sugar projects working with children at that age. Most pilots and deployments currently seem to be focused on primary-school children (age 6 to 10). What kind of educational activities did you have in mind? One really great activity

Re: [IAEP] Project Gutenberg, etc.

2009-04-29 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
I guess we all view the needs of our target audience through the prism of our own experience at their age. I was an avid reader, and a re-reader of favorite books. (Still am, as are many of my women friends -- perhaps this is gender related). So the idea of dumping a book I enjoyed would be

Re: [IAEP] Books Books Books

2009-04-29 Thread Costello, Rob R
So refreshing to have Albert trolling again - waiting for us to rise to the bait This form someone who proposed a doom version for the XO at one point -Original Message- From: iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto:iaep- boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of Albert Cahalan

Re: [IAEP] [Grassroots-l] OLPC in Kindergarten

2009-04-29 Thread Sameer Verma
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Hola Alejandro, I'm currently not aware of any other OLPC or Sugar projects working with children at that age. Most pilots and deployments currently seem to be focused on primary-school children (age 6

Re: [IAEP] [Grassroots-l] Planning for Sugar Camp Paris

2009-04-29 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Dear all, with the beginning of Sugar Camp Paris only being 2 weeks away from us I thought it was time to get started on some planning. While the list of attendees

Re: [IAEP] Books Books Books

2009-04-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Costello, Rob R writes: So refreshing to have Albert trolling again - waiting for us to rise to the bait If you really believe I'm trolling, why did you give me a win? Unfortunately for me, I had other reasons to post that email. I'm annoyed at the double standards here. If it looks like I'm