[IAEP] article about Sugar in Wired magazine

2009-08-04 Thread David Van Assche
http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2009/08/inventing-a-new-paradigm-sugarlabs-and-the-sugar-ui/ enjoy David Van Assche -- Charles de Gaullehttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/charles_de_gaulle.html - The better I get to know men, the more I find myself loving dogs.

[IAEP] Cloning USB sticks (was: Re: Could a KS file be used in the Fedora11 net install to customize the clone process?)

2009-08-04 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 02:41:35AM -0700, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: [copying USB stick via dd] Sucessfully copies the USB stick! this is an exact copy and boot and runs well. Just a word of caution: Because it's an exact copy, it will duplicate your identity as well if you've ever logged in to

Re: [IAEP] article about Sugar in Wired magazine

2009-08-04 Thread Dave Bauer
Great information in the comments The one thing that needs mentioning is the Jabber based collaboration element. The collaboration is very powerful, and built in fundamentally. I have created an EC2 AMI that can be started to allow on demand Jabber collaboration between sugar pcs. The

Re: [IAEP] Cloning USB sticks

2009-08-04 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
Sascha Silbe wrote: On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 03:38:38AM -0700, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: Can I avoid this f I set up the USB to not use all of the available space when I allocate the partition sizes in net install method (see link:) I don't know enough about the Fedora installation

Re: [IAEP] Cloning USB sticks

2009-08-04 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 05:07:31AM -0700, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: ie: The over-riding determining factor is that the copied to USB stick has to have equal or greater capacity than the copied from USB stick for the dd process to be sucessful. Exactly. * Do you have a suggestion on how to

Re: [IAEP] USB Sticks - Was: Re: Presenting Sugar to Rosie's Girls Camp, recommendations for cheap, fast flash drives

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Dengler
Hi Caroline, On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 11:36:38AM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: Nicco's example has a good example use case from the field that relate to our work on trying to create a more robust Sugar on a Stick. I think a session on how to not remove the USB stick unless Sugar is shut down,

Re: [IAEP] [Fwd: Re: Could a KS file be used in the Fedora11 net install to customize the clone process?] network collisions if /.sugar is not changed

2009-08-04 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
I am uploading a compressed 4GB image at this time to sunjammer : http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/ ETA 3 hrs. (finished about: 2 PM PST) This may be a feasible distribution method. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux#Download_of_USB.img_file Tom Gilliard David Farning

Re: [IAEP] Cloning USB sticks (was: Re: Could a KS file be used in the Fedora11 net install to customize the clone process?)

2009-08-04 Thread Luke Faraone
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 03:03, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-i...@silbe.org wrote: [copying USB stick via dd] Sucessfully copies the USB stick! this is an exact copy and boot and runs well. Just a word of caution: Because it's an exact copy, it will duplicate your identity as well if

Re: [IAEP] Cloning USB sticks: Danger of leaving passwords in clones.

2009-08-04 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
Thank you for the caution; I use daveb's method to clear /.sugar in all uploads of sugar rm -rf ~/.sugar su - {password} shutdown -h now This procedure has to be used on all dd copies of USB If this is not done, there is a network collision between 2 clones on same network The generic

Re: [IAEP] article about Sugar in Wired magazine

2009-08-04 Thread Russell Brown
Ah, That was me. There is no zealot like a recent convert, eh? I'm wondering about the practicality of the EC2 ejabberd server too!!! So far the big problem is configuring the sugars each time a new instance is used...the whole restart after setting the jabber server address is a pain. And

Re: [IAEP] Cloning USB sticks: Danger of leaving passwords in clones.

2009-08-04 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:39:31AM -0700, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: This procedure has to be used on all dd copies of USB You can also do it on the master stick before doing the dd if there's no data in the Journal you want to preserve. Note: I have not seen any failures to USB sticks from

Re: [IAEP] Cloning USB sticks Re: How to damage a Flash strorage Device

2009-08-04 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
I see that the LVM file structure used in F11 is not addressed in the wiki reference. I am attaching a screen shot of the structure of one of the sticks FYI. Are we any better in using live-cd creator for USB creation in Strawberry.? Is the compressed fs safer to use? I do not know how to

Re: [IAEP] Reviving the Deployment Team

2009-08-04 Thread Caroline Meeks
Let me know how I can help! Thanks, CAroline On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:47 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.orgwrote: It looks like we have enough sustainable contributors to revive the Deployment team! The existing deployment team information is at

Re: [IAEP] Reviving the Deployment Team

2009-08-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Caroline Meekssolutiongr...@gmail.com wrote: Let me know how I can help! Likewise. Thanks, CAroline On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:47 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: It looks like we have enough sustainable contributors to revive the Deployment

[IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread Dennis Daniels
It was suggested that I post a link to my commentary about Sugar and education to this list. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary A quick poll before I go on... how many actively participating teachers on this list or the wiki? From what countries? The views expressed

Re: [IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Dennis Danielsdennisgdani...@gmail.com wrote: It was suggested that I post a link to my commentary about Sugar and education to this list. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary A quick poll before I go on... how many actively participating

[IAEP] Activities for SoaS?

2009-08-04 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi All... Dumb question: Can all of the Activities listed at: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/recommended be added to the SoaS usb stick? (Not all at once, just a chosen few!) What is the maximum recommended usb stick capacity? I have a client over on the OLPC RT queue who

Re: [IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread Dennis Daniels
Great in theory but I've used Moodle for over three years in public and private schools. Teachers did not go to Moodle until the admins told them to(public school: hand tied/ private school: use Moodle or your fired). We had a teacher who fought using electronic attendance for a year! And the

[IAEP] GPA Notes 8/4/09

2009-08-04 Thread Anurag Goel
GPA Notes 8/4/09 Caroline: Today we are going to learn how to boot the computers from scratch so we can take our sticks home. How many of you have computers at home? have computers: 8 Dont' have: 4 Caroline: How many of you had your sticks break during the summer? Failed sticks: 2 We are

Re: [IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread Caroline Meeks
I think you are both right. Dennis, I definitely agree that having older students from Middle and High Schools going back to their elementary schools and helping to train teachers is a great strategy. We would love help in implementing that strategy. We are also talking about partnering with the

Re: [IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Caroline Meekssolutiongr...@gmail.com wrote: I think you are both right. Dennis, I definitely agree that having older students from Middle and High Schools going back to their elementary schools and helping to train teachers is a great strategy.  We would love

Re: [IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:14 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.orgwrote: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Caroline Meekssolutiongr...@gmail.com wrote: I think you are both right. Dennis, I definitely agree that having older students from Middle and High Schools going back to their

Re: [IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread Dennis Daniels
GPA? I'm not sure I understand your adult/student ratio at your installation... what is the ratio? Team approach? How many are being paid? What does 'work 10-6' mean? thanks, Dennis So far all the adults in the school we have talked to have been very enthusiastic. The GPA uses a team

Re: [IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread David Farning
Please see http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Gardner_Pilot_Academy . david On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Dennis Danielsdennisgdani...@gmail.com wrote: GPA? I'm not sure I understand your adult/student ratio at your installation... what is the ratio? Team approach? How many are being paid? What

Re: [IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Dennis Daniels dennisgdani...@gmail.comwrote: GPA? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Gardner_Pilot_Academy I'm not sure I understand your adult/student ratio at your installation... what is the ratio? I don;t know. About normal or a bit better. Its a pilot

Re: [IAEP] Reviving the Deployment Team

2009-08-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:37 PM, David Farningdfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: The first step, from the implementation, side is going back to the basics; focusing on easy technical bugs and easy usability bug.  The goal is establishing respect and trust between the deployment team and the

[IAEP] Resend: Activities for SoaS?

2009-08-04 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi... This didn't seem to go through, so I will resend. I would like to add another question...do any of the Activities requiring peripherals work with SoaS? For example, what works with Measure? Can you use the temperature probe? Does the oscilloscope work? Is it possible to use a camera

[IAEP] Resend: Activities for SoaS?

2009-08-04 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi... This didn't seem to go through, so I will resend. I would like to add another question...do any of the Activities requiring peripherals work with SoaS? For example, what works with Measure? Can you use the temperature probe? Does the oscilloscope work? Is it possible to use a camera

Re: [IAEP] Resend: Activities for SoaS?

2009-08-04 Thread Dave Bauer
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Caryl Bigenhocbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi... This didn't seem to go through, so I will resend.  I would like to add another question...do any of the Activities requiring peripherals work with SoaS?  For example, what works with Measure?  Can you use the

Re: [IAEP] Resend: Activities for SoaS?

2009-08-04 Thread forster
do any of the Activities requiring peripherals work with SoaS? For example, what works with Measure? Can you use the temperature probe? Does the oscilloscope work? My recollection is that the audio input for data logging doesnt work on non XO hardware but I could be wrong. Walter will