Re: [IAEP] A Better Idea...

2016-06-06 Thread Laura Vargas
Hi!

2016-06-07 3:51 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland :

> Hi
>
> On 6 June 2016 at 08:24, Caryl Bigenho  wrote:
> > Actually we have a number of people among the SugarLabs membership with
> > experience in successful fund raising through grants. I am one of them.
>
> So am I :)
>

:D may the force be with us!

I created a public pad for the Committee at https://titanpad.com/SLFC

There we can write our Goals/Objectives, Current Applications/Process,
Grants we are Considering/Working On...

I have found it to be a great tool for a Committee to keep/update/track
Important Notes and links to all the collaborative documentation produced.
Check and Play; https://titanpad.com/ep/pad/view/SLFC/latest


> I am perfectly willing to continue adding potential funding sources to
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/2016_Goals page as I find them,


Could you please add a list of links to the Pad under the* Calls for
proposals/Grants we are considering *title? I saw many references on the
wiki but would appreciate you sorting only the relevant links!

and to
> later prepare drafts for proposals and solicit the community to
> improve the drafts.


+1.
I know you like the wiki for documentation but I ask you to try the pad as
an easy-friendly-preliminary space to construct written consensus.

Cheers and enjoy!

>
>
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> Cheers
> Dave
>

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Re: [IAEP] Why do you contribute to Sugar?

2016-06-06 Thread tkkang
Good to hear what others have to say .. here is my own reflection:

I worked with Sugar till today as I have personally tested it with children 
from the gifted to the developmentally delay; and made many video-recordings of 
children using it over the years under many different circumstances. It works - 
Sugar simplicity and flexibility makes it my best choice as a clinical or 
educational tools, to help children be empowered in their learning.

T.K Kang
 

>-Original Message-
>From: Walter Bender [mailto:walter.ben...@gmail.com]
>Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 07:28 AM
>To: 'Dave Crossland'
>Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
>Subject: Re: [IAEP] Why do you contribute to Sugar?
>
>On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>
>>
>> In thread "A Better Idea..." on 5 June 2016 at 16:41, Sean DALY <
>> sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps trying to thrash out texts is not the best approach - maybe we
>>> should start with why we the volunteers are convinced about Sugar, and
>>> think about distilling our Vision from that.
>>>
>>
>> I like this suggestion!
>>
>> I request that everyone subscribed to this list reply to this thread with
>> a short message about why they are convinced about Sugar.
>>
>> I'll go first :)
>>
>> I am convinced about Sugar because I believe learning through
>> self-discovery is a powerful way for young people to become good people,
>> good citizens, and to find some particular talents to develop to the
>> maximum; and I believe Sugar is software that encourages such learning.
>>
>> ___
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>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>>
>
>See [1 and 2].
>
>But to gist:
>
>At Sugar Labs we make a collection of Free/Libre Software tools that
>learners use to *explore*, *discover*, *create*, and *reflect*. We
>distribute these tools freely and encourage our users to appropriate them,
>taking ownership and responsibility for their learning.
>
>To me, one important goal at Sugar Labs is to have our user community
>engage in the development process. Towards this end, we have provided
>scaffolding to support our users in their exploration of the tools
>themselves and how the tools are built. This has not been just an
>intellectual exercise. We design for end-user contributions, and we have
>seen learners taking ownership and the responsibility that comes with
>ownership. Sugar users, even when they don’t made contributions to the
>code, are active learners, who are immersed in a culture where they are
>encouraged to create as well as consume.
>
>
>[1]
>http://people.sugarlabs.org/walter/docs/Learning-to-Change-the-World-Chapter-4.pdf
>[2]
>http://sites.ed.gov/oese/2016/04/open-discussion-on-the-role-of-education-technologies-in-early-childhood-stem-education/
>
>-- 
>Walter Bender
>Sugar Labs
>http://www.sugarlabs.org
>
>


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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-06 Thread Sean DALY
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 5:11 AM, Dave Crossland  wrote:

> I propose Monday at 7pm EST
>


I think you mean Monday June 14th, not tomorrow.

I'm sorry, 1AM is too late for me.

Sean
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 June 2016 at 06:08, Sean DALY  wrote:

> I think you mean Monday June 14th, not tomorrow.
>

What time on June 14th will work for you?
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-06 Thread Sean DALY
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 5:13 AM, Dave Crossland  wrote:

> Where can I read this?



The Marketing mailing list, 2009
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Motion (1 of 2) GSoC Stipends

2016-06-06 Thread Walter Bender
+1 from me as well

(I had reclused myself from voting on the earlier version of this motion
due to a conflict of interest in that I am a potential recipient of the
funds, but since I have said that I will not accept the funds for my
personal use, I think it is OK to vote.)

-walter

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Claudia Urrea  wrote:

> + 1
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Tony Anderson 
> wrote:
>
>> I second the motion and approve it.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On 06/04/2016 03:02 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
>>
>> We did not have time to take action on two motions at yesterday's
>> meeting. Please review the motion below. If an oversight board seconds the
>> motion, then we can bring it up for a vote by email.
>>
>> regards.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>>
>> Motion regarding GSoC mentoring stipends
>>
>> Motion: Whereas it is the general policy of Sugar Labs to retain all GSoC
>> mentoring stipends in the General Fund, if a mentor asks a GSoC Admin (for
>> example in 2016, Walter or Lionel) to pay a stipend to a mentor, their
>> share of the stipend amount will be disbursed without further motions to
>> approve the spending. The share is calculated from the total awarded for
>> the GSoC slot by Google, minus 10% (as all Sugar Labs income is donated to
>> Software Freedom Conservancy for organisational services), minus 5%
>> (retained for Sugar Labs General Funds),  divided by the number of mentors
>> for the project. For example, in a year with 6 slots and 10 mentors at
>> $500, the total revenue is $3,000; 10% for Conservancy is $300 and 5% for
>> Sugar Labs is $150, leaving a total of $2,550 or $255 per mentor.
>>
>> 
>>
>> Note that an earlier version of this motion failed:
>>
>> Failed Motion
>>
>> Motion: To allow the mentors participating in Google Summer of Code to
>> disperse the mentor stipend among themselves as they see fit.
>>
>> Further discussion of this motion can be found beginning at [1].
>>
>> [1] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2016-May/018130.html
>> --
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 June 2016 at 06:04, Sean DALY  wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 5:13 AM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>>> I developed the Sugar on a Stick strategy in 2009
>>
>> Where can I read this?
>
> The Marketing mailing list, 2009

I searched the 2009 mailing list for "sean strategy" and didn't find anything.

http://www.mail-archive.com/search?a=1=marketing%40lists.sugarlabs.org=sean+strategy=0=0===1y=2009-01-01==relevance

I removed the date filter and:

I found 
http://www.mail-archive.com/marketing%40lists.sugarlabs.org/msg00974.html
from 2010 where walter posted a social media strategy from
'rmesquita', and an idea from Sebastian to host a statusnet instance
with a sugar skin;

I found 
http://www.mail-archive.com/marketing%40lists.sugarlabs.org/msg00864.html
from 2010 where you said you'd write a strategy for collaboration with
OLPCA;

I found 
http://www.mail-archive.com/marketing%40lists.sugarlabs.org/msg01515.html
from 2011 where you note the absence of OLPC marketing support, and
conclude with 3 recommendations, (a) marketing is expensive and we
should raise general funds for it, (b) we should have a web forum for
teachers and (c) form a committee, and require SLOB to include a
portion of educators;

and I found 
http://www.mail-archive.com/marketing%40lists.sugarlabs.org/msg01819.html
from 2013 where you say there isn't a marketing strategy.

Since I could not find the Sugar on a Stick strategy from 2009, please
could you?

I have added the goals of making a marketing strategy and a social
media marketing strategy to https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/2016_Goals
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Motion (1 of 2) GSoC Stipends

2016-06-06 Thread Claudia Urrea
+ 1

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Tony Anderson  wrote:

> I second the motion and approve it.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On 06/04/2016 03:02 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
>
> We did not have time to take action on two motions at yesterday's meeting.
> Please review the motion below. If an oversight board seconds the motion,
> then we can bring it up for a vote by email.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
>
> Motion regarding GSoC mentoring stipends
>
> Motion: Whereas it is the general policy of Sugar Labs to retain all GSoC
> mentoring stipends in the General Fund, if a mentor asks a GSoC Admin (for
> example in 2016, Walter or Lionel) to pay a stipend to a mentor, their
> share of the stipend amount will be disbursed without further motions to
> approve the spending. The share is calculated from the total awarded for
> the GSoC slot by Google, minus 10% (as all Sugar Labs income is donated to
> Software Freedom Conservancy for organisational services), minus 5%
> (retained for Sugar Labs General Funds),  divided by the number of mentors
> for the project. For example, in a year with 6 slots and 10 mentors at
> $500, the total revenue is $3,000; 10% for Conservancy is $300 and 5% for
> Sugar Labs is $150, leaving a total of $2,550 or $255 per mentor.
>
> 
>
> Note that an earlier version of this motion failed:
>
> Failed Motion
>
> Motion: To allow the mentors participating in Google Summer of Code to
> disperse the mentor stipend among themselves as they see fit.
>
> Further discussion of this motion can be found beginning at [1].
>
> [1] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2016-May/018130.html
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Re: [IAEP] Why do you contribute to Sugar?

2016-06-06 Thread José Miguel García
Hola!

Es necesario pensar Sugar como un espacio de aprendizaje más que como
software. Sugar se desarrolla de acuerdo a las características propias de
los niños, ya que estos no son adultos en miniatura. Esto se contrapone con
la tendencia mundial de diseñar máquinas iguales a las del mundo adultos en
tamaños reducidos, infantilizando los escritorios a los que ellos están
acostumbrados y utilizando aplicaciones que son valiosos para el adulto,
sin tener en cuenta los proceso de aprendizaje de los niños. Esto incentiva
al docente a rediseñar sus prácticas. Sugar es el mejor ambiente para
potenciar los cambios en las prácticas institucionales que los educadores
buscamos, dando un espacio creativo, de autoaprendizaje y de producción
para los niños .




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2016-06-06 4:33 GMT-03:00 :

> Good to hear what others have to say .. here is my own reflection:
>
> I worked with Sugar till today as I have personally tested it with
> children from the gifted to the developmentally delay; and made many
> video-recordings of children using it over the years under many different
> circumstances. It works - Sugar simplicity and flexibility makes it my best
> choice as a clinical or educational tools, to help children be empowered in
> their learning.
>
> T.K Kang
>
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Walter Bender [mailto:walter.ben...@gmail.com]
> >Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 07:28 AM
> >To: 'Dave Crossland'
> >Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
> >Subject: Re: [IAEP] Why do you contribute to Sugar?
> >
> >On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> In thread "A Better Idea..." on 5 June 2016 at 16:41, Sean DALY <
> >> sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Perhaps trying to thrash out texts is not the best approach - maybe we
> >>> should start with why we the volunteers are convinced about Sugar, and
> >>> think about distilling our Vision from that.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I like this suggestion!
> >>
> >> I request that everyone subscribed to this list reply to this thread
> with
> >> a short message about why they are convinced about Sugar.
> >>
> >> I'll go first :)
> >>
> >> I am convinced about Sugar because I believe learning through
> >> self-discovery is a powerful way for young people to become good people,
> >> good citizens, and to find some particular talents to develop to the
> >> maximum; and I believe Sugar is software that encourages such learning.
> >>
> >> ___
> >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
> >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
> >>
> >
> >See [1 and 2].
> >
> >But to gist:
> >
> >At Sugar Labs we make a collection of Free/Libre Software tools that
> >learners use to *explore*, *discover*, *create*, and *reflect*. We
> >distribute these tools freely and encourage our users to appropriate them,
> >taking ownership and responsibility for their learning.
> >
> >To me, one important goal at Sugar Labs is to have our user community
> >engage in the development process. Towards this end, we have provided
> >scaffolding to support our users in their exploration of the tools
> >themselves and how the tools are built. This has not been just an
> >intellectual exercise. We design for end-user contributions, and we have
> >seen learners taking ownership and the responsibility that comes with
> >ownership. Sugar users, even when they don’t made contributions to the
> >code, are active learners, who are immersed in a culture where they are
> >encouraged to create as well as consume.
> >
> >
> >[1]
> >
> http://people.sugarlabs.org/walter/docs/Learning-to-Change-the-World-Chapter-4.pdf
> >[2]
> >
> http://sites.ed.gov/oese/2016/04/open-discussion-on-the-role-of-education-technologies-in-early-childhood-stem-education/
> >
> >--
> >Walter Bender
> >Sugar Labs
> >http://www.sugarlabs.org
> >
> >
>
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 June 2016 at 10:15, José Miguel García  wrote:
> On 5 June 2016 at 16:30, Sean DALY  wrote:
>>
>> We need to do a phone call or face-to-face of some type.
>
> Llamadas face-to-face son imposibles para quienes usamos traductores para la
> comunicación.

Mi preferencia es para el correo electrónico y el IRC, porque no hay
un registro histórico que es fácil de buscar (y traducir! :)
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-06 Thread José Miguel García
Hola!

On Jun 4, 2016 2:29 PM, "Dave Crossland"  wrote:

> Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive. Arrangements will be made to
> enable on-line contributions by PayPal, debit or credit card or
> other means. Once the means to make contributions is in place, the
> Financial Manager will initiate and lead the drive. The Sugar Labs web site
> will show progress in donations toward the goal.
>
>


On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Dave Crossland  wrote:

> On 4 June 2016 at 15:25, Walter Bender  wrote:
>
>> I  am all for raising funds but we need to articulate the reason why we
>> need them.
>>
> To pay for labour to achieve goals, such as the existing translations and
> finance manager roles and perhaps others in the future; to find out which
> members are active in 2016; to pay for all travel expenses for all active
> members to attend a sugar summit... there are countless things you can do
> with general funds.



De acuerdo con Dave y con Walter de hacer recaudación de fondos con un fin
específico. Cumbre es una buena idea.

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 3:26 AM, Sean DALY  wrote:
>
>>
>> Dave - Walter means how we articulate to potential donors, i.e. the
>> compelling story I have mentioned. It's a marketing problem and rushing
>> through a motion is not the solution - we need to be clear what our vision
>> and major goals are, and relate them convincingly to donors.
>>
>
>
De acuerdo con Sean que es necesario tener clara la visión, objetivos, etc.
antes de salir con una recaudación masiva de fondos.


On 5 June 2016 at 16:30, Sean DALY  wrote:

> We need to do a phone call or face-to-face of some type.


Llamadas face-to-face son imposibles para quienes usamos traductores para
la comunicación.

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2016-06-06 11:30 GMT-03:00 Sean DALY :

> sorry, June 14th is a Tuesday... can't do it the 13th. Starting time
> between 9:30PM and 11PM (UTC+2) OK for me that day
> Sean
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>
>>
>> On 6 June 2016 at 06:08, Sean DALY  wrote:
>>
>>> I think you mean Monday June 14th, not tomorrow.
>>>
>>
>> What time on June 14th will work for you?
>>
>
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Re: [IAEP] A Better Idea...

2016-06-06 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Dave, 
Actually we have a number of people among the SugarLabs membership with 
experience in successful fund raising through grants. I am one of them. Sora 
Edwards is another. I'm sure there are other people who would be willing to 
work together (a committee or whatever we decide to call it) to constantly 
search all possible funding sources and team up to draft quality proposals that 
will be successful.
If you don't like the word committee, Dave, that is your business. But that is 
how things get done!
If someone reading this has done some grant writing or thinks they would enjoy 
helping seek out and develop proposals for SugarLabs… let's get together and be 
a "Committee!" The key word here is "enjoy."
Caryl
P.S. The grants written by me and by Sora were not written for SugarLabs. 

From: d...@lab6.com
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 17:14:35 -0600
Subject: Re: A Better Idea...
To: cbige...@hotmail.com
CC: olpc-...@lists.laptop.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; 
sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; h...@laptop.org; 
walter.ben...@gmail.com; callaur...@gmail.com; lio...@olpc-france.org; 
sve...@sfsu.edu; logo...@gmail.com; t...@olenepal.org; la...@somosazucar.org


On 5 June 2016 at 10:18, Caryl Bigenho  wrote:
"Nickel and dimeing" members doesn't seem to be a viable option
For me, neither does making up committees and talking about dedicated 
volunteers that do not exist :) We are so small that we do not need any 
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[IAEP] Thank you notes to GCI winners

2016-06-06 Thread Mariah Noelle Villarreal
I'm putting together a thank you/congratulations note for the GCI grand
prize winners. If you have a specific message you would like me to include,
please respond to me directly by Sunday and I will include it in a hand
written note to them, especially if you mentored them at any time directly.

As a reminder, the GCI 2015 grand prize winners are Ezequiel Pereira Lopez
and Piotr Antosz.


Cheers,
Mariah Noelle
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Re: [IAEP] A Better Idea...

2016-06-06 Thread Laura Vargas
Caryl,

I'll enjoy to join the committee ;D

Regards,






2016-06-06 22:24 GMT+08:00 Caryl Bigenho :

> Dave,
>
> Actually we have a number of people among the SugarLabs membership with
> experience in *successful* fund raising through grants. I am one of them.
> Sora Edwards is another. I'm sure there are other people who would be
> willing to work together (a committee or whatever we decide to call it) to
> constantly search all possible funding sources and team up to draft quality
> proposals that will be successful.
>
> If you don't like the word committee, Dave, that is your business. But
> that is how things get done!
>
> If someone reading this has done some grant writing or thinks they would
> *enjoy* helping seek out and develop proposals for SugarLabs… let's get
> together and be a "Committee!" The key word here is "enjoy."
>
> Caryl
>
> P.S. The grants written by me and by Sora were not written for SugarLabs.
>
> --
> From: d...@lab6.com
> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 17:14:35 -0600
> Subject: Re: A Better Idea...
> To: cbige...@hotmail.com
> CC: olpc-...@lists.laptop.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org;
> sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; h...@laptop.org;
> walter.ben...@gmail.com; callaur...@gmail.com; lio...@olpc-france.org;
> sve...@sfsu.edu; logo...@gmail.com; t...@olenepal.org;
> la...@somosazucar.org
>
>
>
> On 5 June 2016 at 10:18, Caryl Bigenho  wrote:
>
> "Nickel and dimeing" members doesn't seem to be a viable option
>
>
> For me, neither does making up committees and talking about dedicated
> volunteers that do not exist :) We are so small that we do not need any
> committees for anything.
>



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Re: [IAEP] A Better Idea...

2016-06-06 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Super Laura! I enjoy working with you! :-D

Caryl


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 6, 2016, at 2:30 PM, Laura Vargas  wrote:
> 
> Caryl,
> 
> I'll enjoy to join the committee ;D
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2016-06-06 22:24 GMT+08:00 Caryl Bigenho :
>> Dave, 
>> 
>> Actually we have a number of people among the SugarLabs membership with 
>> experience in successful fund raising through grants. I am one of them. Sora 
>> Edwards is another. I'm sure there are other people who would be willing to 
>> work together (a committee or whatever we decide to call it) to constantly 
>> search all possible funding sources and team up to draft quality proposals 
>> that will be successful.
>> 
>> If you don't like the word committee, Dave, that is your business. But that 
>> is how things get done!
>> 
>> If someone reading this has done some grant writing or thinks they would 
>> enjoy helping seek out and develop proposals for SugarLabs… let's get 
>> together and be a "Committee!" The key word here is "enjoy."
>> 
>> Caryl
>> 
>> P.S. The grants written by me and by Sora were not written for SugarLabs. 
>> 
>> From: d...@lab6.com
>> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 17:14:35 -0600
>> Subject: Re: A Better Idea...
>> To: cbige...@hotmail.com
>> CC: olpc-...@lists.laptop.org; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; 
>> sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; h...@laptop.org; 
>> walter.ben...@gmail.com; callaur...@gmail.com; lio...@olpc-france.org; 
>> sve...@sfsu.edu; logo...@gmail.com; t...@olenepal.org; la...@somosazucar.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 5 June 2016 at 10:18, Caryl Bigenho  wrote:
>> "Nickel and dimeing" members doesn't seem to be a viable option
>> 
>> For me, neither does making up committees and talking about dedicated 
>> volunteers that do not exist :) We are so small that we do not need any 
>> committees for anything. 
> 
> 
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Re: [IAEP] A Better Idea...

2016-06-06 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi

On 6 June 2016 at 08:24, Caryl Bigenho  wrote:
> Actually we have a number of people among the SugarLabs membership with
> experience in successful fund raising through grants. I am one of them.

So am I :)

I am perfectly willing to continue adding potential funding sources to
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/2016_Goals page as I find them, and to
later prepare drafts for proposals and solicit the community to
improve the drafts.

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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Motion (2 of 2) Sugar Labs donation

2016-06-06 Thread José Miguel García
Motion to request a membership donation

Motion: To request a membership donation from each currently active Sugar
Labs Member to be allocated to the General Fund for the calendar year of
2016, and a public statement about how they use Sugar and why they are
involved in Sugar Labs to post on the website; there is no penalty for not
paying a membership or not providing a statement; by default members who
donate will be kept private, and requested to opt-in to be recognised. The
donation requested will be $12 USD from members who self-identify as
low-income (such as students); $36 USD from general members; $120 from
members who can opt-in to be placed prominently on the website; and $600
from members who can (privately if they wish) submit a release codename,
subject to SLOB approval.

Secundo la moción.



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2016-06-04 14:24 GMT-03:00 Dave Crossland :

> Hi
>
> On 4 June 2016 at 07:48, Adam Holt  wrote:
>
>> As this is a very thoughtful proposal, I contacted SFConservancy's
>> general counsel to verify it is legal given 501(c)3 non-profit laws can be
>> strict, and he emphasized 2 things:
>>
>> (1) no tangible benefits may be offered in return for a donation
>> (otherwise it is not a donation, by law!)
>>
>> (2) if such transactions were ever to become quasi-mandatory (similar to
>> membership dues in many other organizations) he would strongly prefer we
>> not use the word "Member" and rather use terminology like "Patron"
>> (commonly-used word in charitable circles, and doesn't imply explicit
>> benefits), "Lab Assistants," or "Sugar Labs Official Patrons" (SLOPs, not
>> my choice!), or "Sweet Teeth," etc, with a fun logo (that fits in with the
>> existing "Sugar Labs" brand).
>>
>
> Thanks for checking in with Conservancy on this :)
>
> Fortunately no benefits in the motion are tangible, and no transactions
> are mandatory.
>
>
>> Finally while I'm not at all against this very thoughtful proposal going
>> forward increasingly seriously, there is a *Ton* of overhead to managing
>> $12 donations,
>
>
> Adam, I don't understand your assertion at all!
>
> I imagine that when someone sends $12 via PayPal, then Paypal
> automatically takes its fee and deposits the remainder in the Conservancy
> account; then Conservancy is obliged to perform the light and simple task
> of transferring 10% of that to their account and 90% to their SL ear-marked
> account, which they do with ledger-cli, which they are familiar with. I
> imagine that Conservancy staff are familiar with performing this task on a
> weekly basis, if not more frequently. I do not think this will be a burden.
> Have any Conservancy staff expressed that this will be a burden? If it was
> a burden, they are earning their 10%, so I would see no reason to not to
> place that burden on them, if there was one, which there isn't.
>
> Please list all the management tasks you think are associated with a $12
> donation to be performed by anyone.
>
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Motion (1 of 2) GSoC Stipends

2016-06-06 Thread José Miguel García
Motion regarding GSoC mentoring stipends

Motion: Whereas it is the general policy of Sugar Labs to retain all GSoC
mentoring stipends in the General Fund, if a mentor asks a GSoC Admin (for
example in 2016, Walter or Lionel) to pay a stipend to a mentor, their
share of the stipend amount will be disbursed without further motions to
approve the spending. The share is calculated from the total awarded for
the GSoC slot by Google, minus 10% (as all Sugar Labs income is donated to
Software Freedom Conservancy for organisational services), minus 5%
(retained for Sugar Labs General Funds),  divided by the number of mentors
for the project. For example, in a year with 6 slots and 10 mentors at
$500, the total revenue is $3,000; 10% for Conservancy is $300 and 5% for
Sugar Labs is $150, leaving a total of $2,550 or $255 per mentor.

+1 para secundar la moción
+1 para aprobarla


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2016-06-06 11:47 GMT-03:00 Walter Bender :

> +1 from me as well
>
> (I had reclused myself from voting on the earlier version of this motion
> due to a conflict of interest in that I am a potential recipient of the
> funds, but since I have said that I will not accept the funds for my
> personal use, I think it is OK to vote.)
>
> -walter
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Claudia Urrea  wrote:
>
>> + 1
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Tony Anderson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I second the motion and approve it.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/04/2016 03:02 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
>>>
>>> We did not have time to take action on two motions at yesterday's
>>> meeting. Please review the motion below. If an oversight board seconds the
>>> motion, then we can bring it up for a vote by email.
>>>
>>> regards.
>>>
>>> -walter
>>>
>>>
>>> Motion regarding GSoC mentoring stipends
>>>
>>> Motion: Whereas it is the general policy of Sugar Labs to retain all
>>> GSoC mentoring stipends in the General Fund, if a mentor asks a GSoC Admin
>>> (for example in 2016, Walter or Lionel) to pay a stipend to a mentor, their
>>> share of the stipend amount will be disbursed without further motions to
>>> approve the spending. The share is calculated from the total awarded for
>>> the GSoC slot by Google, minus 10% (as all Sugar Labs income is donated to
>>> Software Freedom Conservancy for organisational services), minus 5%
>>> (retained for Sugar Labs General Funds),  divided by the number of mentors
>>> for the project. For example, in a year with 6 slots and 10 mentors at
>>> $500, the total revenue is $3,000; 10% for Conservancy is $300 and 5% for
>>> Sugar Labs is $150, leaving a total of $2,550 or $255 per mentor.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Note that an earlier version of this motion failed:
>>>
>>> Failed Motion
>>>
>>> Motion: To allow the mentors participating in Google Summer of Code to
>>> disperse the mentor stipend among themselves as they see fit.
>>>
>>> Further discussion of this motion can be found beginning at [1].
>>>
>>> [1] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2016-May/018130.html
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-06 Thread Laura Vargas
2016-06-06 12:31 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland :

>
> On 5 June 2016 at 22:26, Laura Vargas  wrote:
>
>> +1 for a Global Sugar Summit to build our strategic plan.
>>
>> If we can't make it to MIT in October there is another interesting option
>> for November 2016, as in Bolivia will take place the "III Cumbre
>> Continental de Comunicación Indígena", a very relevant event for indigenous
>> languages that already considers a technical space to talk about free
>> software and that takes place every 3 years in a different location each
>> time.
>>
>> http://cumbresdecomunicacionindigena.org/
>>
>> We might not even need to raise funds, as probably this activity will fit
>> within the Trip Advisor grant spirit.
>>
>
> Let's do both! Please create a page at
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Summit/2016-11 detailing the event :)
>

Done! ;D

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