Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Sean DALY
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > There is Sugar (now being referred to as a desktop which is ironic since > the Sugar HIG were intended to > replace the desktop metaphor) and the Sugar activities > I have always vigorously opposed referring to Sugar as a

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
Do we want these or not? :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Date: 16 June 2016 at 02:09 Subject: Re: [UKids] Unleash Kids / KOC trip to rescue laptops - April To: Dave Crossland , Alex Perez Cc: Unleash Kids!

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
On 16 June 2016 at 09:16, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Dave Crossland (2016-06-16 14:48:56) > > I think this is a really important discussion for the wider community, > > as it relates to the future/vision topic :) > > It is very very rarely sensible to cross-post. Less so

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
On 16 June 2016 at 08:25, Sean DALY wrote: > This was always the case on the old site - it's the new site, which I > hadn't see before it went up, which brought it back. > I'm confused; what do you think should be changed on the current site?

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Dave Crossland (2016-06-16 15:14:32) > On 16 June 2016 at 09:16, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> Quoting Dave Crossland (2016-06-16 14:48:56) >>> I think this is a really important discussion for the wider >>> community, as it relates to the future/vision topic :) >> >> It is

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
On 16 June 2016 at 04:34, Sean DALY wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> There is Sugar (now being referred to as a desktop which is ironic since >> the Sugar HIG were intended to >> replace the desktop metaphor) and the Sugar

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
On 16 June 2016 at 10:09, Sean DALY wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> I'm confused; what do you think should be changed on the current site? > > > > The homepage says: > Sugar is both a desktop and a collection of Activities.

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Sean DALY
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Do you think anything should be changed? Yes, the "desktop" reference should be replaced with the original text. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Sean DALY
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > I'm confused; what do you think should be changed on the current site? The homepage says: Sugar is both a desktop and a collection of Activities. This means something to GNU/Linux developers, but is meaningless to a

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
Where is the original text? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
On 14 June 2016 at 21:57, Dave Crossland wrote: > ACTION ITEM: Dave will talk with Leah at OLPC on Thursday, and ask what > their goals are for the next few years, when they will end support for > XO-1s, and what they would advise in the scenario that we break Sugar for > XOs in

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-16 Thread Sean DALY
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > the IAEP list: It's an educational project, remember. Sorry Jonas, I was thinking of you and others when I moved the discussion to the Marketing list. Sean. ___ IAEP -- It's

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Sean DALY
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > I think since Sugar launched the rise and now dominance of iOS and Android > - which also do away with the desktop metaphor - means this is no longer as > big a claim as it once was, and I don't think its even worth

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
On 14 June 2016 at 12:09, Sean DALY wrote: > >On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> > >>> A brand that is not being diluted is stale, rigid, dying. > >> > >> I

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Laura Vargas
2016-06-16 22:12 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland : > > On 14 June 2016 at 21:57, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> ACTION ITEM: Dave will talk with Leah at OLPC on Thursday, and ask what >> their goals are for the next few years, when they will end support for >> XO-1s, and what

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 15/06/16 a las 22:02, Dave Crossland escribió: > > Hi > > On 15 June 2016 at 12:51, Sebastian Silva > wrote: > > > > On 15/06/16 08:40, Dave Crossland wrote: > > However, http://www.one-education.org has just announced

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Sean DALY
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Where is the original text? The old site was zapped before I could archive anything, so I just use the Internet Archive Wayback Machine ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project

Re: [IAEP] A Better Idea...

2016-06-16 Thread Laura Vargas
2016-06-15 8:38 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland : > On 11 June 2016 at 11:12, Sean DALY wrote: > > Dave - I don't agree that whomever submits a grant application becomes > the > > treasurer for those funds. > > Fair enough :) I am merely observing what I see as

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 16 June 2016 at 13:45, Sebastian Silva wrote: > > > El 15/06/16 a las 22:02, Dave Crossland escribió: > > > Hi > > On 15 June 2016 at 12:51, Sebastian Silva > wrote: > >> >> >> On 15/06/16 08:40, Dave Crossland wrote: >> > However,

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
On 16 June 2016 at 13:49, Laura Vargas wrote: > Great news Dave! hopefully more and more OLPC members will join the > conversation on the IEP list. > Sadly, I must admit that I do not expect anyone at OLPC to join this list. > - OLPC offered XO-1.75 and XO-4 upgrade

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Dave Crossland
On 16 June 2016 at 11:30, Sean DALY wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> Where is the original text? > > > > The old site was zapped before I could archive anything, so I just use the > Internet Archive Wayback Machine >

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Laura Vargas
2016-06-17 12:07 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland : > > On 16 June 2016 at 13:49, Laura Vargas wrote: > >> Great news Dave! hopefully more and more OLPC members will join the >> conversation on the IEP list. >> > > Sadly, I must admit that I do not expect anyone at

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-16 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 16/06/16 a las 23:32, Dave Crossland escribió: > >> When I spoke to Rangan a couple months ago, he said that there is >> no demand from the schools that One Education serves for such an >> image. > > It all depends on your intervention principles. In education, *we > see