Re: [IAEP] [sugar] list of complaints from sugarcamp community building talk

2008-11-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
Edward Cherlin wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:15 AM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Definitely a problem. We are thinking about having a landing page similar to the one in http://www.eclipse.org/ that hopefully will give a way for everybody to find how to better interact with us

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] list of complaints from sugarcamp community building talk

2008-11-25 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
Please DON'T introduce more sugarisms like BEET, especially for novices. How are they supposed to know what to put as a tag, even if the tag makes sense? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] list of complaints from sugarcamp community building talk

2008-11-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: Please DON'T introduce more sugarisms like BEET, especially for novices. How are they supposed to know what to put as a tag, even if the tag makes sense? They read it when they subscribe to the mailing list - and find it on the wiki pages for example 'Getting

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] list of complaints from sugarcamp community building talk

2008-11-25 Thread Luke Faraone
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 08:48, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: Please DON'T introduce more sugarisms like BEET, especially for novices. How are they supposed to know what to put as a tag, even if the tag makes sense? They read it when they

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] list of complaints from sugarcamp community building talk

2008-11-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
Luke Faraone wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 08:48, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: Please DON'T introduce more sugarisms like BEET, especially for novices. How are they supposed to know what to put as a tag, even if the tag makes sense? They read it

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] list of complaints from sugarcamp community building talk

2008-11-25 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 15:58, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luke Faraone wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 08:48, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: Please DON'T introduce more sugarisms like BEET, especially for novices. How are they supposed to

[IAEP] Fwd: Web site content

2008-11-25 Thread Walter Bender
-- Forwarded message -- From: Christian Marc Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:12 AM Subject: Web site content To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I am sending out another call for website content! We need one volunteer per

[IAEP] Sugar Digest 2008-11-25

2008-11-25 Thread Walter Bender
=== Sugar Digest === 1. Sugar Camp Digest: First, I would like to thank Bernie Innocenti for organizing a great week. He was tireless in his efforts to find us meeting rooms, maintain the schedule, and help keep things together when tempers flared—as they will when people are passionate about

Re: [IAEP] [Novalug] Important government demo opportunity

2008-11-25 Thread Rich Goodwin
PLease contact me off list. I asked our NOVALUG community (knowing more received it as well) for ideas to present here. tux.org was able to have represntation two years ago. Had I been able to convey we would in fact have XO's at the last one, we woul dlikely have been accepted. Thus, talking

Re: [IAEP] [Novalug] Important government demo opportunity

2008-11-25 Thread Charles M Howe
Isn't Linux-pe the ideal place to have this discussion? Charlie On Mon, 2008-11-24 at 19:16 -0500, Rich Goodwin wrote: PLease contact me off list. I asked our NOVALUG community (knowing more received it as well) for ideas to present here. tux.org was able to have represntation two years

[IAEP] new front page

2008-11-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi all, as you may know already, we're trying to make it easier for people to find what they look for in the wiki. As part of these efforts, Christian [0] is working on a landing page that will direct people to different areas of the wiki depending of their interests [1]. Christian has pointed

[IAEP] PMs (was Re: teams vs. projects)

2008-11-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:30 AM, Ralph Hyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to express the contrary view here, based on 15 years of consulting experience. If the teams are involved in delivery, there needs to be roles involved in keeping things on track, especially in a meritocracy like an

[IAEP] Library Collections are only layered on the Browse Activity.

2008-11-25 Thread C.W. Holeman II
The diagram for the Sugar Application Stack (http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Application_Stack) shows Library Collections as being layer on top of all of the Activities. The only Activity that I have found to deal with Library Collections is Browse (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Library_grid). So, as it

Re: [IAEP] Library Collections are only layered on the Browse Activity.

2008-11-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:52 PM, C.W. Holeman II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The diagram for the Sugar Application Stack (http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Application_Stack) shows Library Collections as being layer on top of all of the Activities. The only Activity that I have found to deal with

Re: [IAEP] Library Collections are only layered on the Browse Activity.

2008-11-25 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 25.11.2008, at 18:02, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:52 PM, C.W. Holeman II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The diagram for the Sugar Application Stack (http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Application_Stack) shows Library Collections as being layer on top of all of the Activities. The

Re: [IAEP] Library Collections are only layered on the Browse Activity.

2008-11-25 Thread Walter Bender
+1 I can imagine a library including Etoys projects, ebooks, all sorts of things. -walter On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25.11.2008, at 18:02, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:52 PM, C.W. Holeman II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The

Re: [IAEP] PMs (was Re: teams vs. projects)

2008-11-25 Thread Martin Dengler
[sorry to reply to GP] On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:30 AM, Ralph Hyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [gregdek wrote] On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Walter Bender wrote: I think the idea of a roadmap (with project schedules) within each team would address much of this need. Agreed. Project

Re: [IAEP] Proposal: IRC channel and mailing list for support

2008-11-25 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 07:50:43PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 24.11.2008, at 19:38, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: On Sun, 23 Nov 2008, Luke Faraone wrote: [yet-another-mailing list proposal] A big +1 here. Go, Luke, go! The more typical setup would be #sugar for user questions

Re: [IAEP] Library Collections are only layered on the Browse Activity.

2008-11-25 Thread Erik Blankinship
So, as it looks to me the graphic should have the Library Collections only on top of the Browse Activity. Agreed, though wonder if some other activities might be interested in accessing that content? Yes, I think it makes sense that activities might work with activity bundles. (

Re: [IAEP] Bug Temaplate

2008-11-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have seen we use a bug template {{Bug|8876}} on the wiki now. Can we make the default one be the Sugar Labs tracker and create a second one for the laptop.org tracker? Now that we have s.l.o tracker up - can we

Re: [IAEP] Library content, the largest future group of contributors

2008-11-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, a few comments below: On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 1:09 PM, C.W. Holeman II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The issues for new outsiders: - There is documentation and notes that assume an XO machine vs Sugar running on an

Re: [IAEP] teams vs. projects

2008-11-25 Thread David Farning
I think that we are going to find that by the fall 2009 we will see a release team spontaneously form and take a lead role in the project. For the first release, Fall 2008, our effort was centered around the organization of Sugar Labs. For the second release, Spring 2009, organizational we are

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Collaboration on ubuntu

2008-11-25 Thread victor rajewski
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: snip Then you should find the following files in ~/.sugar/default/logs: presenceservice.log and telepathy-salut.log Please make those files available by creating a ticket on http://dev.sugarlabs.org and attaching the

Re: [IAEP] Fixes needed for media-wiki

2008-11-25 Thread Bernie Innocenti
[cc += iaep] Luke Faraone wrote: Please install http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Mibbit , and edit SL's interwiki map (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Interwiki) so that it [[olpc:MainPage]] works properly. Done the Interwiki part. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/

Re: [IAEP] Fixes needed for media-wiki

2008-11-25 Thread David Farning
thanks On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:23 PM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [cc += iaep] Luke Faraone wrote: Please install http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Mibbit , and edit SL's interwiki map (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Interwiki) so that it [[olpc:MainPage]] works

[IAEP] Deployment Team Meeting Reminder (2008-11-26 14:00 UTC)

2008-11-25 Thread Sebastian Silva
Hello We will be having our Deployment team meeting this wednesday (today) at 14:00 UTC (irc.freenode.net - channel: #sugar-meeting ) Here is the proposed agenda. http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam/Meetings#2008-11-19_meeting Everyone is invited to come ;). See you there. -- Sebastian