Re: [IAEP] Education on the XO

2009-01-05 Thread David Van Assche
Maybe we should try and put together some sort of roadmap and strategy for schools.sugarlabs.org. Perhaps we could schedule an IRC meeting regarding it? kind Regards, David Van Assche On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net wrote: David, I didn't realize that you

[IAEP] Sugar on Mandriva

2009-01-05 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all I am going to develop/support sugar packages for Mandriva, if you are a Mandriva user/developer - you are welcome to http://sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Community/Distributions/Mandriva -- Aleksey ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop

Re: [IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, This might be of interest: Salasaga is a GTK/Gnome based IDE used to create eLearning for applications. With it, you take screenshots of your applications, add highlights, text and external images, then generate learning objects. Present output is in swf (flash) format.

Re: [IAEP] FUDcon + XOCamp talks

2009-01-05 Thread Simon Schampijer
Greg Smith wrote: Hi Simon and Marco, I have you lined up for a discussion on Monday afternoon January 12 as well: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XOCamp_2#Monday_January_12.2C_2009 I am sorry, but I can not make the XOCamp. But I think Marco does. I saw you attend the FUDCon, so we I am happy to

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread Bryan Berry
On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 16:01 +0100, David Van Assche wrote: This might be of interest: Salasaga is a GTK/Gnome based IDE used to create eLearning for applications. With it, you take screenshots of your applications, add highlights, text and external images, then generate learning objects.

Re: [IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread David Van Assche
This might be of interest: Salasaga is a GTK/Gnome based IDE used to create eLearning for applications. With it, you take screenshots of your applications, add highlights, text and external images, then generate learning objects. Present output is in swf (flash) format. It would certainly be

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Wade Brainerd wrote: I think the template should be built into and supported by the Sugar dev team, rather than something that has to be copied around. I strongly disagree. We should send the clearest

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Wade Brainerd wrote: I think the template should be built into and supported by the Sugar dev team, rather than something that has to be copied around. I strongly disagree. We should send the clearest possible message that SWF, a language with no good free spec and no good free interpreter,

Re: [IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 05.01.2009, at 05:24, John Watlington wrote: On Jan 4, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: Currently Sugar is incapable of running software which is not specifically designed for it. Sugar runs simpler SWF

Re: [IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:24 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: On Jan 4, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: Personally, I don't believe that Sugar Labs the organization needs to be concerned with any of these four points. Ahh, but a recurring question from existing Sugar

Re: [IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, When the primary mission - educating the world's least served children - comes into conflict with Software Freedom, which one wins? How do you explain that to the deployments? This is a fine question. Here's my shot at it. First, I think it would be a mistake to think that

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 10, Issue 18

2009-01-05 Thread Alan Kay
Isn't that just what my second paragraph says? The first important question is what kind of results do you want to achieve in the real world? Do you mean We need strategies for getting children to learn real math even if there are no adults who understand real math? Cheers, Alan

Re: [IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 05.01.2009, at 05:24, John Watlington wrote: On Jan 4, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: Currently Sugar is incapable of running software which is not specifically designed for it. Sugar runs simpler SWF applications just fine, through the Browser. They don't have to be designed for

[IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-01-05

2009-01-05 Thread Walter Bender
=== Sugar Digest === I read the new Neal Stephenson book, Anathem, last week. There was one line I cannot resist sharing with the Sugar community. Raz, our hero, is a young mathematician who leaves the nest to solve any number of problems. At one point, he asks why he is the one upon whom

Re: [IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread Stanley Sokolow
Hi, all, The FlashPlayer is a virtual machine for display of highly visual, interactive, and compelling software content. I don't agree that use of Flash as a platform would be incompatible with our strategy of _how_ to achieve education of the world's children just because it was created

Re: [IAEP] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-05 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Stanley, The FlashPlayer is a virtual machine for display of highly visual, interactive, and compelling software content. I don't agree that use of Flash as a platform would be incompatible with our strategy of _how_ to achieve education of the world's children just because

[IAEP] Fwd: Call for Participation Now Open

2009-01-05 Thread Sameer Verma
Is anyone sending in proposals for OSCON 2009? This year it will (sadly) be in San Jose. I saw many XOs at OSCON in 2007 (Rob Savoye had the most visible one...he was walking around with it), but only two in 2008 - I had one and the OSUOSL guys had one. I also heard a lot of misleading opinions