Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [Grassroots-l] Anyone using the Map activity?

2009-08-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Nick, what about asking in the olpc-sur mailing list? Teachers there seem to be willing to try out new activities and give feedback. You will need someone with Spanish skills, though. Regards, Tomeu On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 05:53, Frederick Grose wrote: > Forwarding to the Sugar community lis

Re: [IAEP] Any way to hide google translation stuff in the printable version of wiki pages?

2009-08-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 03:24, Gary C Martin wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > On 6 Aug 2009, at 23:32, Kevin Cole wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 17:52, Gary C Martin >> wrote: >> >>> Hmmm, wow folks actually still print? :-) I had a colleague who would >>> incessantly print out every email she received a

[IAEP] Fwd: [Grassroots-l] Anyone using the Map activity?

2009-08-06 Thread Frederick Grose
Forwarding to the Sugar community lists... http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Map_(activity) -- Forwarded message -- From: Nick Doiron Date: Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:37 PM Subject: [Grassroots-l] Anyone using the Map activity? To: grassro...@lists.la

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] A security vs. functionality question

2009-08-06 Thread Michael Stone
Lucian, Ben: Here are a bunch of reactions. Apologies for the delay. :) Michael Lucian Branescu wrote: > A chroot because afaik rainbow doesn't really work outside the XO > distro My impression may be wrong, though. Would you mind taking a look at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Rainbow for

Re: [IAEP] Any way to hide google translation stuff in the printable version of wiki pages?

2009-08-06 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Kevin, On 6 Aug 2009, at 23:32, Kevin Cole wrote: > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 17:52, Gary C Martin > wrote: > >> Hmmm, wow folks actually still print? :-) I had a colleague who would >> incessantly print out every email she received and file it away by >> date, >> that was quite fun to watch

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] A security vs. functionality question

2009-08-06 Thread Luke Faraone
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 20:56, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > > I had assumed everyone has root access, it is such a basic need for a > > machine you own. > > Not all Sugar users run on machines that they own. Some are students > running on school computers. Some are children who run on their par

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] A security vs. functionality question

2009-08-06 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Lucian Branescu wrote: > Share with: My Neighborhood is too broad to allow full access. But > Share with: John should be enough to assume that you trust John. Or > instead have a separate option Share with: John (full acces). Sugar does support direct Invitations for private sharing. I like the i

[IAEP] Rochester Institute of Technology MiniCamp

2009-08-06 Thread David Farning
As the summer wraps up I would like to congratulate our friends from RIT on a very successful summer program. Last spring we started off a brainstorm about how to set up a Sugar Shack; a house for participants to come and live for a few month or even a year to hack on Sugar. Rather early in the d

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] A security vs. functionality question

2009-08-06 Thread Lucian Branescu
Share with: My Neighborhood is too broad to allow full access. But Share with: John should be enough to assume that you trust John. Or instead have a separate option Share with: John (full acces). A chroot because afaik rainbow doesn't really work outside the XO distro My impression may be wrong,

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] A security vs. functionality question

2009-08-06 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Lucian Branescu wrote: > Could you let the invited user in a chroot by default and only allow > full access if the inviting user explicitly allows it? 1. What sort of interface do you have in mind? What is more explicit than "Share with: My Neighborhood"? 2. Why a chroot, and not Rainbow? 3. Ho

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] A security vs. functionality question

2009-08-06 Thread Lucian Branescu
Could you let the invited user in a chroot by default and only allow full access if the inviting user explicitly allows it? 2009/8/6 Benjamin M. Schwartz : > Gary C Martin wrote: >> How are two (or more!) remote individuals expected to co-operate and >> share the same command line and not mess up?

Re: [IAEP] Any way to hide google translation stuff in the printable version of wiki pages?

2009-08-06 Thread Kevin Cole
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 17:52, Gary C Martin wrote: > Hmmm, wow folks actually still print? :-) I had a colleague who would > incessantly print out every email she received and file it away by date, > that was quite fun to watch ;-) On a community wiki, material is going to be > out of date _real

Re: [IAEP] A security vs. functionality question

2009-08-06 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Gary C Martin wrote: > How are two (or more!) remote individuals expected to co-operate and > share the same command line and not mess up? 1. Out of band. 1a. That can mean, for example, a pre-existing understanding of the purpose of the session. If it's an "expert" connecting to perform an op

[IAEP] Looking for very old hardware

2009-08-06 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hello All, I asked this question about a year ago, but would like to ask it again. I have been given some educational math software for elementary school written in Basic (or,maybe, "machine language") for the old Apple ii series. I also have a copy of an excellent program for Algebra I, al

Re: [IAEP] Any way to hide google translation stuff in the printable version of wiki pages?

2009-08-06 Thread Gary C Martin
On 6 Aug 2009, at 21:07, Kevin Cole wrote: > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 14:57, Frederick Grose > wrote: > I've set up Google Translations in the wiki sidebar for a community > evaluation, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Welcome_to_the_Sugar_Labs_wiki > . > > In addition to making all pages longer,

Re: [IAEP] A security vs. functionality question

2009-08-06 Thread Gary C Martin
Hi Benjamin, On 6 Aug 2009, at 19:28, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > To engineers: > Is sharing an activity a sufficient indication of intent from the > user to > execute a potentially dangerous action, such as sharing Terminal on a > public collaboration server? To activate a remote VNC client

Re: [IAEP] Any way to hide google translation stuff in the printable version of wiki pages?

2009-08-06 Thread Kevin Cole
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 14:57, Frederick Grose wrote: > I've set up Google Translations in the wiki sidebar for a community > evaluation, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Welcome_to_the_Sugar_Labs_wiki. > > In addition to making all pages longer, the 'Using the Wiki' section of the > sidebar is pushed

Re: [IAEP] A security vs. functionality question

2009-08-06 Thread Luke Faraone
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 15:02, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > I merely mean that users are less likely to leave such a shared activity > "always on". > Good point, unless they forget about it (as they often do in pilots :) > Also, there is no method for "limited sharing". > > Perhaps you are not

Re: [IAEP] A security vs. functionality question

2009-08-06 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Luke Faraone wrote: > A malicious attacker can type at speeds which would allow malicious commands > to be injected without the user noticing until it is "too late". Certainly. Also, the system is implemented using GNU Screen, which permits multiple parallel terminals. This is a very useful feat

Re: [IAEP] A security vs. functionality question

2009-08-06 Thread Luke Faraone
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 14:28, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > Is sharing an activity a sufficient indication of intent from the user to > execute a potentially dangerous action, such as sharing Terminal on a > public collaboration server? To activate a remote VNC client in Gnome, > users must fill

Re: [IAEP] Any way to hide google translation stuff in the printable version of wiki pages?

2009-08-06 Thread Frederick Grose
I've set up Google Translations in the wiki sidebar for a community evaluation, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Welcome_to_the_Sugar_Labs_wiki. In addition to making all pages longer, the 'Using the Wiki' section of the sidebar is pushed further down. ...Bernie might be able to move that, if the comm

[IAEP] A security vs. functionality question

2009-08-06 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Dear Educators and Engineers, To educators: How concerned are you about a feature that allows one student to invite others to play on their computer? Remote access is only granted if the user chooses to share a specific activity. The effect is similar to letting someone walk over and type on you

Re: [IAEP] Any way to hide google translation stuff in the printable version of wiki pages?

2009-08-06 Thread Dave Bauer
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Frederick Grose wrote: > We could put the translation links in the sidebar; though, since we don't > have a dropdown list control, it would mean that all pages would probably > have vertical scroll bars to cover the sidebar content. > > Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia

Re: [IAEP] Any way to hide google translation stuff in the printable version of wiki pages?

2009-08-06 Thread Frederick Grose
We could put the translation links in the sidebar; though, since we don't have a dropdown list control, it would mean that all pages would probably have vertical scroll bars to cover the sidebar content. Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, is an example with 41 languages. --

Re: [IAEP] [Grassroots-l] OLPC / Sugar community in China?

2009-08-06 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Bastien, thanks a lot for your quick reply and all the information! :-) Enjoy your time in Tokyo, Christoph Bastien schrieb: > Hi Christoph, > > Christoph Derndorfer writes: > >> I was wondering whether anyone happens to know of any OLPC / Sugar >> community activity happening in China? > >

[IAEP] Any way to hide google translation stuff in the printable version of wiki pages?

2009-08-06 Thread Kevin Cole
Hi, Whenever I print something from the wiki, I get an expanded (sometimes over one page) listing of all the many wonderful translations of a page before getting to the actual content. Is there a way to tweak the CSS to hide that when media = print? -- Ubuntu Linux DC LoCo Washington, DC http://

[IAEP] Follow-Up on: " looking for two groups of volunteers"

2009-08-06 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
(referring to [2] here) Walter Bender wrote: > We decided on two actions in today's Sugar Oversight Board meeting > (See the transcript at > http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting.log.20090710_0905.html): > > (1) form a committee to oversee the board election in August; > (2) form a committee

Re: [IAEP] installing F11 on a USB stick/ What is Sugar on a Stick? Where should these USB's be located in the wiki?

2009-08-06 Thread Frederick Grose
See the second bullet item here, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs#Technical_Goals. --Fred On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Thomas C Gilliard < satel...@bendbroadband.com> wrote: > What is Sugar on a Stick? > > Is this the appropriate place for the USB's created using the F11 ne

Re: [IAEP] Ranges of Colors of XO in F1 Neighborhood to ID Sugar Versions?

2009-08-06 Thread Caroline Meeks
This would be useful for developers but in the use case we are primarily desigining for, a school, everyone in that school will have the same Sugar Version. For most Sugar users the neighborhood would all have the same build On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Thomas C Gilliard < satel...@bendbroadb

[IAEP] Ranges of Colors of XO in F1 Neighborhood to ID Sugar Versions?

2009-08-06 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
It might be useful to limit the choices of the range of color combinations available for selection depending on the underlying Linux OS. for example: greens for openSUSE bluesfor Fedora Yellow for jbuild systems Reds for XO based systems etc. This would be a way to know fro

[IAEP] installing F11 on a USB stick/ What is Sugar on a Stick? Where should these USB's be located in the wiki?

2009-08-06 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
What is Sugar on a Stick? Is this the appropriate place for the USB's created using the F11 net install? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux Currently the instructions are located on this page. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux#Full_Fedora_11_Install_of_Sugar

Re: [IAEP] [Grassroots-l] OLPC / Sugar community in China?

2009-08-06 Thread Bastien
> Awesome news! > > SJ, can we have the OLPC Asia blog in the planet? > > http://www.olpc.asia/en/atom.xml I forgot to mention that I'm currently in Tokyo, Japan, taking a few days off. If any of you knows some LUG around here, or have contacts with a university that I could visit to spread the w

Re: [IAEP] [Grassroots-l] OLPC / Sugar community in China?

2009-08-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:51, Bastien wrote: > Hi Christoph, > > Christoph Derndorfer writes: > >> I was wondering whether anyone happens to know of any OLPC / Sugar >> community activity happening in China? > > I was in China last month and I did a presentation about Sugar (and > other stuff) to

Re: [IAEP] [Grassroots-l] OLPC / Sugar community in China?

2009-08-06 Thread Bastien
Hi Christoph, Christoph Derndorfer writes: > I was wondering whether anyone happens to know of any OLPC / Sugar > community activity happening in China? I was in China last month and I did a presentation about Sugar (and other stuff) to the Beijing Linux User Group: http://www.slideshare.n

[IAEP] OLPC / Sugar community in China?

2009-08-06 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Hi all, I was wondering whether anyone happens to know of any OLPC / Sugar community activity happening in China? Doing a quick Google search revealed that a small deployment by OLPC.Asia was recently started in Sichuan (http://www.olpc.asia/en/2009/06/first-olpc-deployment-in-sichuan-china.ht