[IAEP] Turtle Art on Activities.sugarlabs.org

2010-02-25 Thread David Farning
The other day during an infrastructure meeting, Walter brought up some
thought on how to enable kids to exchange Turtle Art projects

Alsroot has been thinking about how to do this through a.sl.o since he
became the activities.sugarlabs.org code maintainer.

The high level view is that someone can easily upload Turtle Art creations
to somewhere and then they, or others, can go to a portal to download other
Turtle Art creations.

Client side, this would require:
1. Adding a widget to either the journal or the TA activity to upload the TA
Bundle.
2. Adding a TA bundle installer to handler TA Bundle downloads.

Server side, this would require:
1. A place to accept TA bundle uploads.
2. A search-able place from which to download TA bundles

We have some similar systems we can look to as examples.
1. Scratch -- Scratch has an upload button and users can download scratch
projects from --  http://scratch.mit.edu/galleries/browse/newest
2. ASLO --  Users upload XO bundles via a web interface and download via a
web interface.

My initial instinct is to see if ASLO can be adopted to fit this need.
Primarily because we have it, it works, and it is scalable.  On the other
hand, if the only tool in one's toolbox is a hammer, everything looks like a
nail. (How is that for over using clichés and buzzword?)

Considerations:
ASLO rocks:)
ASLO can be adapted to handle various file types.  For example:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:3
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:2

Each file type can have a separate look and feel.

Is the activity creation and upload process too complicated for young users?

Moving forward:
Would it be possible to journal or TA widget which:
1.  Walks the student though a upload wizard.
2.  Combines the TA project into a into a bundle with the metadata generated
in the wizard.
3.  Sends the bundle to activites.sl.o/uploads

Would it be possible to setup/adapt ASLO to:
1. Handle TA files types.
2. Accepts TA bundles+metadata uploads and inserts them into the review
queue.

david
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Turtle Art on Activities.sugarlabs.org

2010-02-25 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:08 PM, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote:
 The other day during an infrastructure meeting, Walter brought up some
 thought on how to enable kids to exchange Turtle Art projects

 Alsroot has been thinking about how to do this through a.sl.o since he
 became the activities.sugarlabs.org code maintainer.

 The high level view is that someone can easily upload Turtle Art creations
 to somewhere and then they, or others, can go to a portal to download other
 Turtle Art creations.

 Client side, this would require:
 1. Adding a widget to either the journal or the TA activity to upload the TA
 Bundle.
 2. Adding a TA bundle installer to handler TA Bundle downloads.

 Server side, this would require:
 1. A place to accept TA bundle uploads.
 2. A search-able place from which to download TA bundles

 We have some similar systems we can look to as examples.
 1. Scratch -- Scratch has an upload button and users can download scratch
 projects from --  http://scratch.mit.edu/galleries/browse/newest
 2. ASLO --  Users upload XO bundles via a web interface and download via a
 web interface.

 My initial instinct is to see if ASLO can be adopted to fit this need.
 Primarily because we have it, it works, and it is scalable.  On the other
 hand, if the only tool in one's toolbox is a hammer, everything looks like a
 nail. (How is that for over using clichés and buzzword?)

 Considerations:
 ASLO rocks:)
 ASLO can be adapted to handle various file types.  For example:
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:3
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:2

 Each file type can have a separate look and feel.

 Is the activity creation and upload process too complicated for young users?

 Moving forward:
 Would it be possible to journal or TA widget which:
 1.  Walks the student though a upload wizard.
 2.  Combines the TA project into a into a bundle with the metadata generated
 in the wizard.
 3.  Sends the bundle to activites.sl.o/uploads

I am not sure what you are asking? How is this different that just
using Browse to upload files from the Journal?

-walter

 Would it be possible to setup/adapt ASLO to:
 1. Handle TA files types.
 2. Accepts TA bundles+metadata uploads and inserts them into the review
 queue.

 david

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Turtle Art on Activities.sugarlabs.org

2010-02-25 Thread forster
What about multimedia objects in a ta project?
I'm not even sure how to transfer a project between two computers with 
associated multimedia . Manually copy all relevant journal entries? Are 
entrynames preserved?
Tony
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[IAEP] [SLOBS] meeting reminder

2010-02-25 Thread Walter Bender
We'll be having a Sugar Oversight Board meeting tomorrow (Friday, 26
January) at 11AM EST (16UTC) on irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting.

We'll be discussing our trademark policy, Google Summer of Code, our
2010 goals, and our progress on 0.88.

Please join us.

-walter

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[IAEP] Drama / Theater in Sugar?

2010-02-25 Thread Sebastian Silva
Hi!

Do we have something for playing with drama, maybe following a script?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [IAEP] [FIELDBACK] Etoys

2010-02-25 Thread Cherry Withers
Gerald,

It's definitely a balancing act trying to get them to focus on finishing up
something and getting them to explore. Once they realize that they
can affect the object by scripts they just want to do everything they can
possibly do in one sitting (dragging and dropping tiles in one script window
..then I'm in fire fighting mode). Too much resulted in chaos in my class.
Not doing THAT again. I now give them some time to go nuts on exploration
then pull them back in to finish a project. Now I'm introducing just a max
of two concepts (or tiles) in one 40min. session.

Kathleen Harness has really good lesson plans for teaching one concept at a
time: www.etoysillionois.org

I would like to hear more best practices/ideas, etc. for teaching Etoys in
the classroom.

Cheers,
Cherry

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.comwrote:

 I agree. Watching the car script is fun for a while. But when they make
 their own first script, it is exciting each and every time.

 I also find that the students (I work with 10 year olds) get overwhelmed by
 the number of choices they have.

 Anyone else have that experience?

 Thanks.
 Gerald


 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Cherry Withers cwith...@ekindling.orgwrote:

 The very first time a child sees their object move with a simple forward
 script is always a magical moment for me and the kids. Never fails.
 Exploration and excitement explodes after that. I'm new to teaching Etoys as
 well. Definitely caught the bug. :-)

 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote:

 Hi,

 I am teaching on a regular basis in the Planetarium pilot in Berlin,
 Germany [1]. I have been using Etoys now for several weeks and here is
 some first feedback.

 First: The kids do like it a lot! I want to encourage everyone to
 include it in his curriculum.

 For example you can teach easily the concepts of the coordinate system
 with Etoys. You create an object and print out the X and Y values when
 moving it on the screen. Or you can use a joystick to alter the position
 of this object and use this method to deepen the coordinate system
 concept.

 Of course we did as well the famous car example. It was slightly changed
 in my class: A bug has to crawl a lane using one or two sensors to stay
 on the lane. A lot of interesting concepts to learn here, too (positive
 and negative numbers for example).

 And to bring this all together into a portfolio you can use the book
 tool (found in the treasure chest) to create a story including all your
 objects and games, pictures etc you created.

 I wrote down a few items I was missing when using the book tool and
 while doing so, I figured they were all there, just hidden by default.

 - resize all of the book not just one page
 - maybe that could be the default option?
 - duplicate a page
 - different background color
 - different sound when turning the page

 When you hit the little button at the far left you will get more
 options. And when you use the menu in the middle of the book toolbar you
 get all of these options and a lot of more. Just in case someone runs as
 well into this :)

 A few things that I came across, too:
 - German: When you drop the 'joystick up down' and 'joystick left right'
 option onto the world it will change to English. Not when you use it in
 a script though.
 - some buttons are hard to use: for example when you want to alter the
 behavior of the X value of an object (increase..). Those are hard to
 navigate. Or dropping options into the test script does not work as
 smooth.

 That's all for now - keep up the good work, team Etoys!.

 Thanks,
 Simon

 PS: Of course I am happy to turn items into bugs later. Just thought I
 give here a little summary first.


 [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployments/Planetarium

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