[IAEP] Fwd: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement
Looks nice :) - Bert - Begin forwarded message: From: Andre Lessa an...@lessaworld.com Date: 19. März 2010 05:28:54 MEZ To: edu-...@python.org Subject: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement Hey Python Community, I just self published this brand new book and I'm making its PDF available for (free) download on my web site. My goal is to explain some very basic fundamentals of computer science to kids who are starting to learn about computers at school and/or at home. For the tiny hints of programming, I referenced Python. If you (or a kid you know) ends up having access to this book, please send your feedback (suggestions/corrections) directly to me so I can start thinking about the next edition and how I can make it even cooler for kids. Thanks! Andre Lessa You can download the entire book here (no registration required). Computer Science For Kids http://www.LessaWorld.com/kids/ ___ Edu-sig mailing list edu-...@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] non-free activities on ASLO
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 02:41:28PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: Hi David, There is a growing ecosystem of non-free activities for the sugar and the .xo . Is there an official policy on hosting non-free activities on activities.sugarlabs.org? Yes. We ratified at a SLOBS meeting that non-free activities (or content) should *not* be hosted on ASLO, and attempted to specify what we mean by non-free: http://meeting.olpcorps.net/sugar-meeting/sugar-meeting.log.20091211_1002.html [10:13:24] cjb MOTION: adopt http://opensource.org/docs/osd as a set of guidelines for what is permitted on ASLO, for both software and content, and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing#Good_Licenses's opinions on specific licenses where applicable, and always asking the SFC for advice when a particular license is under question. ... [10:16:56] mchua seconded [10:17:33] mchua yea [10:17:35] cjb yea [10:17:42] SeanDaly yea [10:17:44] tomeu aye [10:17:47] walterbender yea [10:17:53] bernie yep I am interested in establishing a 'market-place' for sugar activities. It would seem that we have three choises: 1. We can work to incorporate it into the existing also instance. Limited firewall between commercial and non-commercial portions of the project. 2. We can establish a second instance of aslo called marketplace.sl.org - This establishes a firewall between the non-commercial and non-commercial parts of the project. It also leverages and builds up the Sugar name. 3. I, or others, can establish third party markets independent of activities.sl.org. If we continue with the policy that was voted on, I think it would be important not to have anything inside .sugarlabs.org endorse or offer non-free activities, which would suggest choice 3 in your list above. Heh, I guess it was misunderstanding from my side, my concern was about considering non-FOSS content on reviewing activities to be public (this question is only one for future Editors Policy [1], in my mind it would be better to find out a way to host binary activities and then accept Editors Policy), everyone is free to initial publish any content on ASLO and there is no special workflows on AMO to handle queue of any incoming activities. In my mind it is not obvious question should editors scan all uploaded activities (not only nominated to be public), since, as was already said in devel@ thread, most of uploaded activities will be not worth taking a notice and won't be nominated to be public. But licensing question could be different in this case. On every uploading to ASLO, uploader should mention what licence his activity is using, there is a list and Other field to type any text. ASLO could auto check if licence confirms FOSS and reject uploading form beginning. It was another option in proposed Policy[2]. In my mind licensing issue wasn't so hot (since I was considering it from reviewing nominated to the public activities, there was only one such activity) in comparing w/ binary based activities. But if people think it is important, Policy[1] could be nominated (I guess it require some tweaks, I didn't it since my major concern was fixing binaries issue and only after that accept policy) for accepting. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Editors/Policy [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Editors/Policy#ASLO_auto_checking -- Aleksey ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: Looks nice :) Pretty good. A few places it could be improved. For example, in his compression example, Page 28, he gets confused about bits and bytes. And his page on Open Source is a bit off the mark IMHO. Still, it may appeal to some. I'd be curious to get some teacher reactions. -walter - Bert - Begin forwarded message: From: Andre Lessa an...@lessaworld.com Date: 19. März 2010 05:28:54 MEZ To: edu-...@python.org Subject: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement Hey Python Community, I just self published this brand new book and I'm making its PDF available for (free) download on my web site. My goal is to explain some very basic fundamentals of computer science to kids who are starting to learn about computers at school and/or at home. For the tiny hints of programming, I referenced Python. If you (or a kid you know) ends up having access to this book, please send your feedback (suggestions/corrections) directly to me so I can start thinking about the next edition and how I can make it even cooler for kids. Thanks! Andre Lessa You can download the entire book here (no registration required). Computer Science For Kids http://www.LessaWorld.com/kids/ ___ Edu-sig mailing list edu-...@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement
Walter, I am looking it over this morning, and seeing how to use it with some of our students. As soon as I have some feedback, I'll send it along. Gerald On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: Looks nice :) Pretty good. A few places it could be improved. For example, in his compression example, Page 28, he gets confused about bits and bytes. And his page on Open Source is a bit off the mark IMHO. Still, it may appeal to some. I'd be curious to get some teacher reactions. -walter - Bert - Begin forwarded message: From: Andre Lessa an...@lessaworld.com Date: 19. März 2010 05:28:54 MEZ To: edu-...@python.org Subject: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement Hey Python Community, I just self published this brand new book and I'm making its PDF available for (free) download on my web site. My goal is to explain some very basic fundamentals of computer science to kids who are starting to learn about computers at school and/or at home. For the tiny hints of programming, I referenced Python. If you (or a kid you know) ends up having access to this book, please send your feedback (suggestions/corrections) directly to me so I can start thinking about the next edition and how I can make it even cooler for kids. Thanks! Andre Lessa You can download the entire book here (no registration required). Computer Science For Kids http://www.LessaWorld.com/kids/ ___ Edu-sig mailing list edu-...@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement
On 19.03.2010, at 13:19, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: Looks nice :) Pretty good. A few places it could be improved. For example, in his compression example, Page 28, he gets confused about bits and bytes. And his page on Open Source is a bit off the mark IMHO. Still, it may appeal to some. I'd be curious to get some teacher reactions. -walter Given that he posted to edu-sig he might be open to suggestions ... - Bert - Begin forwarded message: From: Andre Lessa an...@lessaworld.com Date: 19. März 2010 05:28:54 MEZ To: edu-...@python.org Subject: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement Hey Python Community, I just self published this brand new book and I'm making its PDF available for (free) download on my web site. My goal is to explain some very basic fundamentals of computer science to kids who are starting to learn about computers at school and/or at home. For the tiny hints of programming, I referenced Python. If you (or a kid you know) ends up having access to this book, please send your feedback (suggestions/corrections) directly to me so I can start thinking about the next edition and how I can make it even cooler for kids. Thanks! Andre Lessa You can download the entire book here (no registration required). Computer Science For Kids http://www.LessaWorld.com/kids/ ___ Edu-sig mailing list edu-...@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement
Hello, I will contact her for spanish translation. This will be fine for my students ! Saludos, Alfonso de la Guarda Centro Open Source(COS) http://www.cos-la.net http://alfonsodg.net Telef. 991935157 1024D/B23B24A4 5469 ED92 75A3 BBDB FD6B 58A5 54A1 851D B23B 24A4 On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 04:39, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:36, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: Looks nice :) Pity most of our kids don't understand enough english yet :/ If someone wanted to get in contact with the author about translations, it's possible that some teachers in olpc-sur would be interested in helping. Regards, Tomeu - Bert - Begin forwarded message: From: Andre Lessa an...@lessaworld.com Date: 19. März 2010 05:28:54 MEZ To: edu-...@python.org Subject: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement Hey Python Community, I just self published this brand new book and I'm making its PDF available for (free) download on my web site. My goal is to explain some very basic fundamentals of computer science to kids who are starting to learn about computers at school and/or at home. For the tiny hints of programming, I referenced Python. If you (or a kid you know) ends up having access to this book, please send your feedback (suggestions/corrections) directly to me so I can start thinking about the next edition and how I can make it even cooler for kids. Thanks! Andre Lessa You can download the entire book here (no registration required). Computer Science For Kids http://www.LessaWorld.com/kids/ ___ Edu-sig mailing list edu-...@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] OLPC/Sugar Contributors Program Mtg (NOW! on #olpc-meeting, 2:30PM Boston Time, Friday)
Please all join us right now reviewing the latest OLPC/Sugar community projects over IRC Live Chat: http://forum.laptop.org/chat Then type at bottom: /join #olpc-meeting AGENDA: * XO-1.5 early production machines now available shipping: http://blog.laptop.org/2010/02/25/xo-1-5-early-production-laptops-free-to-contributors-worldwide/ * Fast Review of the 5 latest (greatest!) HW/Project Proposals -- please join us advocating for, and/or reviewing shortcomings of these proposals: 1. Social Networking / Crowdsourcing Apps - Arlington, Virginia 2. Charikar, Afghanistan - New York 3. Enabling and supporting Vietnamese localization: Vietnam and diaspora - Renmark, Australia 4. Support Volunteer - Mesa by Phoenix, Arizona 5. Sapote Rural Deployment - Honduras; Annandale, Virginia * Which projects might you enjoy Mentoring below?! http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects http://rt.laptop.org/Search/Results.html?Query=Queue=%27contributors%27 * New projects libraries -- teaching them Community Outreach: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Laptop_Lending_Libraries 1. Social Networking / Crowdsourcing Apps - Arlington, Virginia http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=54734 [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ] Requests 10 XO's over 3 months Project Objectives: The objective of this initial review is to assess the utility of the laptop for use in social networking / crowdsourcing initiatives. The specific details for the pilot study which will be done if we decide the platform is suitable are currently being developed. If the pilot study goes forward a detailed list of metrics and objectives will be provided with our application for 10-25 additional laptops. 2. Charikar, Afghanistan - New York http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=59330 [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ] Requests 1-30 XO's over undetermined months Project Objectives: Last year I worked on an Internet documentary on the Afghanistan Centre at Kabul University, founded by Nancy Hatch Dupree. The organization provides books and school libraries for new literate Afghans. While visiting a high school in Charikar I asked a few students what they wanted. One student, Mohammad Sharif, said he and his classmates wanted computers. They are tired of war and want computers to be their teachers. For your information I have included a link to the short video interview. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciTdxKunWf4 Our objective is to deliver 300 computers to the Hazrat Noman, the boy's school in the video listed above and 100 laptops each to Hura Jalali and M alalai, both girl's school. We would like to establish computer labs in rural Charikar, about a 90-minute drive from Kabul City. We will designate local teachers who will maintain the computers, teach the students, and develop a curriculum. I have also included the link to the ACKU videos shot in 2009. I would like to make the same for the OLPC-Charikar, once the computers are secured. http://www.dupreefoundation.org/afghanistan-videos.htm 3. Enabling and supporting Vietnamese localization: Vietnam and diaspora - Renmark, Australia http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=59359 [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ] Requests 1 XO over 3 months Project Objectives: Get my initial Vietnamese XO software localization working on the XO (Vietnamese is a test case for Unicode support, due to its combined diacritics and very wide range on the Unicode plane; so far most accented characters are not inputting, and number/symbol characters are inaccessible: we have an almost complete localization but people can't use it!); test and review the Vietnamese localization on the XO (I've never seen my localization in action); support OLPC project staff in Vietnam in using our localization (I made contact with two projects in Vietnam and found that they didn't know there was a Vietnamese localization, didn't know how to enable it, and once enabled, couldn't use it!) While it would be cool to play with any new gadget ;), this is an urgent need to get a key localization working. I can't believe we deployed XOs in Vietnam without a working localization! :S 4. Support Volunteer - Mesa by Phoenix, Arizona http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=59534 Requests 1 XO over undetermined months Project Objectives: Laptop is to be used to support end users questions and problem tickets 5. Sapote Rural Deployment - Honduras; Annandale, Virginia http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=59560 [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ] Requests 10 XO's over 18 months Project Objectives: This project is for a rural, one-room public school in Honduras. This school has no access to any kind of technology at the
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] non-free activities on ASLO
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Yes. We ratified at a SLOBS meeting that non-free activities (or content) should *not* be hosted on ASLO, and attempted to specify what we mean by non-free: I personally think it is very good that free are clearly separated from non-free, and I think it's good strategically for all involved. There is one aspect that will be tricky on the content side -- it is very easy to create / release content that is in itself free, but dependent on non-free software. Picture the well-meaning content creator that releases a Flash interactive under a CC license (and it uses fancy Flash10 things that are not in Gnash). Educational content creators aren't as educated as FOSS programmers in the vagaries and politics of patents, software licensing and all (they are educated in other legalities, usually). We can't flame them for being dumb, they are smart about a different set of things. Much of their work will be what Debian would call contrib -- Free in itself but depending on non-free bits. While 'contrib' in Debian is usually not very big, if Sugar succeeds attracting content creators, it might be a big category... at least until the free tools mature, and the authors learn why it matters, switch tools, etc. It is a social process that will take a while -- I am sure there'll be 'contrib' stuff for quite a while, maybe forever. /rambling background So... what about contrib? Martin articulated my views rather well. I believe that Sugar Labs is an education project which uses open source development methodologies and licences because they are socially just and extremely cost effective at building the common platform. The ecosystem to support and develop deployments is _as_ important as the platform itself. As such, as part of my ongoing sugar ecosystem building efforts I have registered ACTIVIDADES.COM and will establish a marketplace for non-free activities. I will continue all of my current technical ASLO support and development and will abstain from further policy discussion about what should be hosted on the Sugar Labs site. david signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] SoaS change of direction: heads-up on convos in other lists
SoaS engineering just proposed a major change-in-direction for the upcoming (Mirabelle) release. See http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2010-March/000906.html for more information - we're asking people to continue discussion on that thread, so please reply there (rather than here). The short version is that instead of include all Activites by default, we're thinking of shipping very few (6) Activities by default - the ones that help users get further Activities and help - and driving them to ASLO to download Activities and engage directly with Activity creators instead. Other related threads - please join the appropriate list and join the conversation there if you're interested in the topic. Marketing: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2010-March/002727.html Activity developers: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-March/023066.html We'd like feedback and comments and all the usual, but please have discussions on the threads we linked to above - we're sending this message to iaep as a heads-up for people who may be interested but not yet on these lists. Thanks, --Sebastian and Mel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep