[IAEP] Fwd: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement

2010-03-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Looks nice :)

- Bert -

Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Andre Lessa an...@lessaworld.com
 Date: 19. März 2010 05:28:54 MEZ
 To: edu-...@python.org
 Subject: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement
 
 Hey Python Community,
 
 I just self published this brand new book and I'm making its PDF
 available for (free) download on my web site.
 
 My goal is to explain some very basic fundamentals of computer science
 to kids who are starting to learn about computers at school and/or at
 home. For the tiny hints of programming, I referenced Python. If you
 (or a kid you know) ends up having access to this book, please send
 your feedback (suggestions/corrections) directly to me so I can start
 thinking about the next edition and how I can make it even cooler for
 kids.
 
 Thanks!
 Andre Lessa
 
 You can download the entire book here (no registration required).
 Computer Science For Kids
 http://www.LessaWorld.com/kids/
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] non-free activities on ASLO

2010-03-19 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 02:41:28PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote:
 Hi David,
 
 There is a growing ecosystem of non-free activities for the sugar
 and the .xo .  Is there an official policy on hosting non-free
 activities on activities.sugarlabs.org?
 
 Yes.  We ratified at a SLOBS meeting that non-free activities (or
 content) should *not* be hosted on ASLO, and attempted to specify
 what we mean by non-free:
 
 http://meeting.olpcorps.net/sugar-meeting/sugar-meeting.log.20091211_1002.html
 
 [10:13:24] cjb MOTION: adopt http://opensource.org/docs/osd as a set
 of guidelines for what is permitted on ASLO, for both software and
 content, and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing#Good_Licenses's
 opinions on specific licenses where applicable, and always asking the
 SFC for advice when a particular license is under question.
 ...
 [10:16:56] mchua seconded
 [10:17:33] mchua yea
 [10:17:35] cjb yea
 [10:17:42] SeanDaly yea
 [10:17:44] tomeu aye
 [10:17:47] walterbender yea
 [10:17:53] bernie yep
 
 I am interested in establishing a 'market-place' for sugar
 activities.  It would seem that we have three choises: 1. We can
 work to incorporate it into the existing also instance.  Limited
 firewall between commercial and non-commercial portions of the
 project.  2. We can establish a second instance of aslo called
 marketplace.sl.org - This establishes a firewall between the
 non-commercial and non-commercial parts of the project. It also
 leverages and builds up the Sugar name.  3. I, or others, can
 establish third party markets independent of activities.sl.org.
 
 If we continue with the policy that was voted on, I think it would be
 important not to have anything inside .sugarlabs.org endorse or offer
 non-free activities, which would suggest choice 3 in your list above.

Heh, I guess it was misunderstanding from my side, my concern was about
considering non-FOSS content on reviewing activities to be public (this
question is only one for future Editors Policy [1], in my mind it would
be better to find out a way to host binary activities and then accept
Editors Policy), everyone is free to initial publish any content on ASLO
and there is no special workflows on AMO to handle queue of any incoming
activities.

In my mind it is not obvious question should editors scan all uploaded
activities (not only nominated to be public), since, as was already said
in devel@ thread, most of uploaded activities will be not worth taking a
notice and won't be nominated to be public.

But licensing question could be different in this case. On every
uploading to ASLO, uploader should mention what licence his activity is
using, there is a list and Other field to type any text. ASLO could
auto check if licence confirms FOSS and reject uploading form beginning.
It was another option in proposed Policy[2].

In my mind licensing issue wasn't so hot (since I was considering it
from reviewing nominated to the public activities, there was only one
such activity) in comparing w/ binary based activities. But if people
think it is important, Policy[1] could be nominated (I guess it require
some tweaks, I didn't it since my major concern was fixing binaries
issue and only after that accept policy) for accepting.

[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Editors/Policy
[2] 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Editors/Policy#ASLO_auto_checking

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Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement

2010-03-19 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote:
 Looks nice :)

Pretty good.  A few places it could be improved. For example, in his
compression example, Page 28, he gets confused about bits and bytes.
And his page on Open Source is a bit off the mark IMHO. Still, it may
appeal to some. I'd be curious to get some teacher reactions.

-walter


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 Begin forwarded message:

 From: Andre Lessa an...@lessaworld.com
 Date: 19. März 2010 05:28:54 MEZ
 To: edu-...@python.org
 Subject: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement

 Hey Python Community,

 I just self published this brand new book and I'm making its PDF
 available for (free) download on my web site.

 My goal is to explain some very basic fundamentals of computer science
 to kids who are starting to learn about computers at school and/or at
 home. For the tiny hints of programming, I referenced Python. If you
 (or a kid you know) ends up having access to this book, please send
 your feedback (suggestions/corrections) directly to me so I can start
 thinking about the next edition and how I can make it even cooler for
 kids.

 Thanks!
 Andre Lessa

 You can download the entire book here (no registration required).
 Computer Science For Kids
 http://www.LessaWorld.com/kids/
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Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement

2010-03-19 Thread Gerald Ardito
Walter,

I am looking it over this morning, and seeing how to use it with some of our
students.
As soon as I have some feedback, I'll send it along.

Gerald

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de
 wrote:
  Looks nice :)

 Pretty good.  A few places it could be improved. For example, in his
 compression example, Page 28, he gets confused about bits and bytes.
 And his page on Open Source is a bit off the mark IMHO. Still, it may
 appeal to some. I'd be curious to get some teacher reactions.

 -walter

 
  - Bert -
 
  Begin forwarded message:
 
  From: Andre Lessa an...@lessaworld.com
  Date: 19. März 2010 05:28:54 MEZ
  To: edu-...@python.org
  Subject: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement
 
  Hey Python Community,
 
  I just self published this brand new book and I'm making its PDF
  available for (free) download on my web site.
 
  My goal is to explain some very basic fundamentals of computer science
  to kids who are starting to learn about computers at school and/or at
  home. For the tiny hints of programming, I referenced Python. If you
  (or a kid you know) ends up having access to this book, please send
  your feedback (suggestions/corrections) directly to me so I can start
  thinking about the next edition and how I can make it even cooler for
  kids.
 
  Thanks!
  Andre Lessa
 
  You can download the entire book here (no registration required).
  Computer Science For Kids
  http://www.LessaWorld.com/kids/
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Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement

2010-03-19 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 19.03.2010, at 13:19, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de 
  wrote:
 Looks nice :)

 Pretty good.  A few places it could be improved. For example, in his
 compression example, Page 28, he gets confused about bits and bytes.
 And his page on Open Source is a bit off the mark IMHO. Still, it may
 appeal to some. I'd be curious to get some teacher reactions.

 -walter

Given that he posted to edu-sig he might be open to suggestions ...

- Bert -

 Begin forwarded message:

 From: Andre Lessa an...@lessaworld.com
 Date: 19. März 2010 05:28:54 MEZ
 To: edu-...@python.org
 Subject: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement

 Hey Python Community,

 I just self published this brand new book and I'm making its PDF
 available for (free) download on my web site.

 My goal is to explain some very basic fundamentals of computer  
 science
 to kids who are starting to learn about computers at school and/or  
 at
 home. For the tiny hints of programming, I referenced Python. If you
 (or a kid you know) ends up having access to this book, please send
 your feedback (suggestions/corrections) directly to me so I can  
 start
 thinking about the next edition and how I can make it even cooler  
 for
 kids.

 Thanks!
 Andre Lessa

 You can download the entire book here (no registration required).
 Computer Science For Kids
 http://www.LessaWorld.com/kids/
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Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement

2010-03-19 Thread Alfonso de la Guarda
Hello,

I will contact her for spanish translation.  This will be fine for my students !


Saludos,


Alfonso de la Guarda
Centro Open Source(COS)
http://www.cos-la.net
http://alfonsodg.net
   Telef. 991935157
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On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 04:39, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:36, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote:
 Looks nice :)

 Pity most of our kids don't understand enough english yet :/

 If someone wanted to get in contact with the author about
 translations, it's possible that some teachers in olpc-sur would be
 interested in helping.

 Regards,

 Tomeu

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 From: Andre Lessa an...@lessaworld.com
 Date: 19. März 2010 05:28:54 MEZ
 To: edu-...@python.org
 Subject: [Edu-sig] Computer Science For Kids Book Announcement

 Hey Python Community,

 I just self published this brand new book and I'm making its PDF
 available for (free) download on my web site.

 My goal is to explain some very basic fundamentals of computer science
 to kids who are starting to learn about computers at school and/or at
 home. For the tiny hints of programming, I referenced Python. If you
 (or a kid you know) ends up having access to this book, please send
 your feedback (suggestions/corrections) directly to me so I can start
 thinking about the next edition and how I can make it even cooler for
 kids.

 Thanks!
 Andre Lessa

 You can download the entire book here (no registration required).
 Computer Science For Kids
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[IAEP] OLPC/Sugar Contributors Program Mtg (NOW! on #olpc-meeting, 2:30PM Boston Time, Friday)

2010-03-19 Thread Holt
Please all join us right now reviewing the latest OLPC/Sugar community 
projects over IRC Live Chat:

http://forum.laptop.org/chat

Then type at bottom:
/join #olpc-meeting


AGENDA:

* XO-1.5 early production machines now available  shipping:
 
http://blog.laptop.org/2010/02/25/xo-1-5-early-production-laptops-free-to-contributors-worldwide/


* Fast Review of the 5 latest (greatest!) HW/Project Proposals -- please
 join us advocating for, and/or reviewing shortcomings of these proposals:

1. Social Networking / Crowdsourcing Apps - Arlington, Virginia
2. Charikar, Afghanistan - New York
3. Enabling and supporting Vietnamese localization: Vietnam and 
diaspora - Renmark, Australia

4. Support Volunteer - Mesa by Phoenix, Arizona
5. Sapote Rural Deployment - Honduras; Annandale, Virginia

* Which projects might you enjoy Mentoring below?!
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects
 http://rt.laptop.org/Search/Results.html?Query=Queue=%27contributors%27

* New projects  libraries -- teaching them Community Outreach:
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Laptop_Lending_Libraries


1. Social Networking / Crowdsourcing Apps - Arlington, Virginia
  http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=54734
  [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ]


  Requests 10 XO's over 3 months

  Project Objectives:
  The objective of this initial review is to assess the utility of
  the laptop for use in social networking / crowdsourcing initiatives.
  The specific details for the pilot study which will be done if we decide
  the platform is suitable are currently being developed. If the pilot
  study goes forward a detailed list of metrics and objectives will be
  provided with our application for 10-25 additional laptops.


2. Charikar, Afghanistan - New York
  http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=59330
  [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ]


  Requests 1-30 XO's over undetermined months

  Project Objectives:
  Last year I worked on an Internet documentary on the Afghanistan Centre
  at Kabul University, founded by Nancy Hatch Dupree.

  The organization provides books and school libraries for new literate
  Afghans. While visiting a high school in Charikar I asked a few students
  what they wanted. One student, Mohammad Sharif, said he and his 
classmates

  wanted computers. They are tired of war and want computers to be their
  teachers. For your information I have included a link to the short video
  interview. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciTdxKunWf4

  Our objective is to deliver 300 computers to the Hazrat Noman, the boy's
  school in the video listed above and 100 laptops each to Hura Jalali 
and M

  alalai, both girl's school. We would like to establish computer labs in
  rural Charikar, about a 90-minute drive from Kabul City. We will 
designate

  local teachers who will maintain the computers, teach the students, and
  develop a curriculum.

  I have also included the link to the ACKU videos shot in 2009. I would
  like to make the same for the OLPC-Charikar, once the computers are 
secured.

  http://www.dupreefoundation.org/afghanistan-videos.htm


3. Enabling and supporting Vietnamese localization: Vietnam and diaspora 
- Renmark, Australia

  http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=59359
  [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ]


  Requests 1 XO over 3 months

  Project Objectives:
  Get my initial Vietnamese XO software localization working on the XO
  (Vietnamese is a test case for Unicode support, due to its combined
  diacritics and very wide range on the Unicode plane; so far most accented
  characters are not inputting, and number/symbol characters are 
inaccessible:
  we have an almost complete localization but people can't use it!); 
test and
  review the Vietnamese localization on the XO (I've never seen my 
localization
  in action); support OLPC project staff in Vietnam in using our 
localization
  (I made contact with two projects in Vietnam and found that they 
didn't know
  there was a Vietnamese localization, didn't know how to enable it, 
and once

  enabled, couldn't use it!)
  While it would be cool to play with any new gadget ;), this is an urgent
  need to get a key localization working. I can't believe we deployed 
XOs in

  Vietnam without a working localization! :S


4. Support Volunteer - Mesa by Phoenix, Arizona
  http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=59534

  Requests 1 XO over undetermined months 


  Project Objectives:
  Laptop is to be used to support end users questions and problem tickets


5. Sapote Rural Deployment - Honduras; Annandale, Virginia
  http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=59560
  [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ]


  Requests 10 XO's over 18 months 


  Project Objectives:
  This project is for a rural, one-room
  public school in Honduras. This school has no access to any kind of
  technology at the 

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] non-free activities on ASLO

2010-03-19 Thread David Farning

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com 
wrote:

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote:

Yes.  We ratified at a SLOBS meeting that non-free activities (or
content) should *not* be hosted on ASLO, and attempted to specify
what we mean by non-free:


I personally think it is very good that free are clearly separated
from non-free, and I think it's good strategically for all involved.

There is one aspect that will be tricky on the content side -- it is
very easy to create / release content that is in itself free, but
dependent on non-free software. Picture the well-meaning content
creator that releases a Flash interactive under a CC license (and it
uses fancy Flash10 things that are not in Gnash).

Educational content creators aren't as educated as FOSS programmers in
the vagaries and politics of patents, software licensing and all (they
are educated in other legalities, usually). We can't flame them for
being dumb, they are smart about a different set of things.

Much of their work will be what Debian would call contrib -- Free in
itself but depending on non-free bits.

While 'contrib' in Debian is usually not very big, if Sugar succeeds
attracting content creators, it might be a big category... at least
until the free tools mature, and the authors learn why it matters,
switch tools, etc.

It is a social process that will take a while -- I am sure there'll be
'contrib' stuff for quite a while, maybe forever.

/rambling background

So... what about contrib?



Martin articulated my views rather well.

I believe that Sugar Labs is an education project which uses open source 
development methodologies and licences because they are socially just and 
extremely cost effective at building the common platform.

The ecosystem to support and develop deployments is _as_ important as the 
platform itself.

As such, as part of my ongoing sugar ecosystem building efforts I have 
registered ACTIVIDADES.COM and will establish a marketplace for non-free 
activities.

I will continue all of my current technical ASLO support and development and 
will abstain from further policy discussion about what should be hosted on the 
Sugar Labs site.

david  


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[IAEP] SoaS change of direction: heads-up on convos in other lists

2010-03-19 Thread Mel Chua
SoaS engineering just proposed a major change-in-direction for the 
upcoming (Mirabelle) release. See 
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2010-March/000906.html for more 
information - we're asking people to continue discussion on that thread, 
so please reply there (rather than here).

The short version is that instead of include all Activites by default, 
we're thinking of shipping very few (6) Activities by default - the ones 
that help users get further Activities and help - and driving them to 
ASLO to download Activities and engage directly with Activity creators 
instead.

Other related threads - please join the appropriate list and join the 
conversation there if you're interested in the topic.

Marketing: 
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2010-March/002727.html

Activity developers: 
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-March/023066.html

We'd like feedback and comments and all the usual, but please have 
discussions on the threads we linked to above - we're sending this 
message to iaep as a heads-up for people who may be interested but not 
yet on these lists.

Thanks,

--Sebastian and Mel
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