Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] In-person SLOBs meeting, Boston, Tuesday?
On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 18:29 +0200, Sean DALY wrote: > Well, I'm flying to Boston specifically to overcome the limitations of > electronic discussion. This may not be what people who are soon going to fly across the ocean to attend a crucial meeting would like to hear, but I'm not sure we have a problem of the kind that could be fixed by switching to a different communication medium, language or location. By now, we've clearly expressed all our positions, listened to the opposite viewpoints and debated the points of disagreement in great detail. Let's face it: we simply happen to have wildly opposite opinions on this particular topic and, being aware of its importance, we're reluctant to make steps in the direction of a mid-ground compromise. If everyone comes to this meeting with the purpose of illustrating their original stance more clearly, I'm afraid we won't make much progress. Cecilia Alcala, who is very good at diplomacy, gave this advice: someone should write a draft policy and distribute it to all participants ahead of the meeting. The objective of the meeting will be to work together on a number of amendments to this initial draft, until it becomes acceptable to the majority of voters. Each participant would have to make some compromises, or trade mutual compromises. My position seems to be the most extremist in the liberal camp, which means I'll have to swallow more compromises than other fellow slobs. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] OLPC/Sugar Contributors Program Mtg (NOW! on #olpc-meeting, 2:45PM Boston Time, Friday)
Please all join us right now reviewing the latest OLPC/Sugar community projects over IRC Live Chat: http://forum.laptop.org/chat Then type at bottom: /join #olpc-meeting AGENDA: * XO-1.5 early production machines now available & shipping: http://blog.laptop.org/2010/02/25/xo-1-5-early-production-laptops-free-to-contributors-worldwide/ * Fast Review of the 10 latest (greatest!) HW/Project Proposals -- please join us advocating for, and/or reviewing shortcomings of these proposals: 1. Steppe by Steppe / Side by Side - Kazakhstan, Australia 2. Costa Atlantica - Managua, Nicaragua 3. Sugar Polishing 0.84 - Berlin, Germany 4. Free E-Tutoring in India for the Village Child - Tamilnadu, India 5. Fedora on XO - London, United Kingdom 6. eBook creation and sharing website - Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada 7. Broken XO-1s/parts Community Repair - Sao Tome & Principe 8. eKindling - OLPC Philippines 9. Collaboration Testing & Documentation - Vienna, Austria 10. XO-1.5 Hardware QA - Indianapolis, Indiana * Which projects might you enjoy Mentoring below?! http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects http://rt.laptop.org/Search/Results.html?Query=Queue=%27contributors%27 * New projects & libraries -- teaching them Community Outreach: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Laptop_Lending_Libraries * Meeting results will be posted here very shortly: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors_program/meetings 1. Steppe by Steppe / Side by Side - Kazakhstan, Australia http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=60323 http://www.steppebysteppe.com.au/schools.html [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ] Requests 10 XOs over 12 months Project Objectives: ...Our aim is that by providing access to [OLPC] resources in remote villages, will allow the students to expand their educational prospects without having to leave their village, traditional lifestyle, village traditions and customs, or family, for the city – something which the community often finds very damaging in this rapidly changing and globalised world. Throughout our project, we have visited many schools in very remote rural areas, these schools are often very under resourced – lacking sporting equipment, proper toilets, libraries and many other facilities that we ourselves take for granted today. Adequate phone lines/reception is often non-existent in these areas also – let alone the internet. Most people in these remote villages have never even seen a computer, let alone used the internet. In these rural areas (where hardly anyone has seen a computer), there are very limited prospects for further education. We hope that by providing a few laptops, internet access (along basic training) and software, to a school, we can increase their chances of continued higher education. Access to global information will greatly enhance their awareness, understanding, and knowledge of the larger community that we are all apart of, resulting in greater empowerment at both a communal and personal level, thus greatly increasing their developmental prospects. Our other goal is to partner each participating school in Kazakhstan to a sister school in Australia, it will allow students in these distant regions of the world to learn and grow together with open minds. This can only be done however once these schools have access to the internet (and thus telephone lines, electricity, and computers). The partnered schools will then be able to keep in regular contact with each other, learning about each others traditions, lifestyle, and culture... 2. Costa Atlantica - Managua, Nicaragua http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=60386 http://www.fundacionzt.org/fzt/index.htm [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ] Requests 2 XOs over 12 months Project Objectives: Get 2 XO 1.5 for start the training with the new hardware and software, and to have the experience to support the proyect at Atlantic Zone. 3. Sugar Polishing 0.84 - Berlin, Germany http://erikos.sweettimez.de http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=60509 [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ] Requests 1-2 XO-1.5s over undetermined months Project Objectives: Polish Sugar 0.84 on XO 1.5 Find hardware related issues with Sugar on XO 1.5 hardware (e.g. keys, camera). Backport 0.86 and 0.88 bugs to 0.84. 4. Free E-Tutoring in India for the Village Child - Tamilnadu, India http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=60525 http://twitter.com/rajindia_4 [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ] Requests 50 XOs over 48 months Project Objectives: Remote area (village) Students can acquire knowledge of their homework help and curriculum help of the Text book using XO’s laptop. They can learn comfortable without any fear in one-one session with the teacher in
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] In-person SLOBs meeting, Boston, Tuesday?
Well, I'm flying to Boston specifically to overcome the limitations of electronic discussion. I have offered to tape record the meeting so the brave can listen to an Ogg afterwards. Sean On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 11:07 -0400, Mel Chua wrote: >> We appear to not have a SLOBs meeting today, presumably because people >> will be in town on Tuesday and we plan on talking then. >> >> When and where on Tuesday are we meeting? Do we want to transcribe/log >> that conversation so that remotees can take part, or at least see what >> happened? (I volunteer to make sure that this happens, if so.) > > Can we do this meeting on irc even though this time many slobs are going > to be present in the flesh? > > It would let the entire community participate, not to mention free > minutes. I also feel that written communication is more clear than > spoken communication, but this is very subjective. > > >> If I've just missed a message somewhere, let me know - but I'm pretty >> sure I'm not the only person asking these questions. > > Yeah, I was wondering too :) > > -- > // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ > \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ > > ___ > SLOBs mailing list > sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Monday evening dinner meeting
Works for me too. Sean On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 17:43, Walter Bender wrote: >> It has been suggested that we meet over dinner on Monday evening, >> April 11. We can use Tuesday for some face-to-face working sessions as >> well. Would this schedule work for everyone? > > Works for me, also I have heard several yes in #sugar-meeting. > > Regards, > > Tomeu > >> regards. >> >> -walter >> >> -- >> Walter Bender >> Sugar Labs >> http://www.sugarlabs.org >> ___ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Monday evening dinner meeting
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 17:43, Walter Bender wrote: > It has been suggested that we meet over dinner on Monday evening, > April 11. We can use Tuesday for some face-to-face working sessions as > well. Would this schedule work for everyone? Works for me, also I have heard several yes in #sugar-meeting. Regards, Tomeu > regards. > > -walter > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > http://www.sugarlabs.org > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] [SLOBS] Monday evening dinner meeting
It has been suggested that we meet over dinner on Monday evening, April 11. We can use Tuesday for some face-to-face working sessions as well. Would this schedule work for everyone? regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] In-person SLOBs meeting, Boston, Tuesday?
On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 11:07 -0400, Mel Chua wrote: > We appear to not have a SLOBs meeting today, presumably because people > will be in town on Tuesday and we plan on talking then. > > When and where on Tuesday are we meeting? Do we want to transcribe/log > that conversation so that remotees can take part, or at least see what > happened? (I volunteer to make sure that this happens, if so.) Can we do this meeting on irc even though this time many slobs are going to be present in the flesh? It would let the entire community participate, not to mention free minutes. I also feel that written communication is more clear than spoken communication, but this is very subjective. > If I've just missed a message somewhere, let me know - but I'm pretty > sure I'm not the only person asking these questions. Yeah, I was wondering too :) -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] In-person SLOBs meeting, Boston, Tuesday?
We appear to not have a SLOBs meeting today, presumably because people will be in town on Tuesday and we plan on talking then. When and where on Tuesday are we meeting? Do we want to transcribe/log that conversation so that remotees can take part, or at least see what happened? (I volunteer to make sure that this happens, if so.) If I've just missed a message somewhere, let me know - but I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person asking these questions. Thanks, --Mel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] FOSS VT presentation
the numbers on the flags in the google map (http://laptop.org/en/children/countries/index.shtml ) is the most current data (last week). it has not made it to the wiki (yet as of yesterday). these numbers reflect orders not deployed but that data is coming in too... best r/ On Apr 8, 2010, at 9:44 PM, John Watlington wrote: > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Countries is old. > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments, while not exactly up > to date in certain areas, is better. > > Cheers, > wad > > On Apr 8, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Xander Pirdy wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Xander Pirdy >> wrote: >> Caroline- >> I took a look at manyeyes (great site btw), and it looks like they >> already have a dataset on olpc deployments: >> http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/datasets/olpc-deployments-in-the-world/versions/1 >> >> , though the data would have to be modified to do on a country by >> country basis (it has trouble understanding Birmingham AL for >> instance because it should really be labeled as part of the United >> States Deployment), though it wouldn't take much editing to get >> this to work. If anyone has any idea on reliable sources to verify >> these numbers I wouldn't mind putting a bit of extra time into >> correcting it and finishing the visualization as I think that it is >> something important. >> -Xander >> >> Sorry for the double post - I just came across this as well: >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Countries >> , does any one know if this data is more current/correct (no >> sources for this are cited)? It might also be worthwhile to include >> countries that have pilots or that have shown significant interest? >> Also perhaps a state by state one might be interesting as well >> (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_United_States >> ). >> -Xander >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Caroline Meeks > > wrote: >> Thanks everyone for the feedback and typos. >> >> If anyone does get good data on deployments I suggest checking out >> Manyeyes to make the map. >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka >> wrote: >> Bolivia >> • 100 machines purchased by the SOBOCE foundation, maybe 20 or >> less are still operational in a school in Viacha (despite our best >> efforts, they don't seem willing to accept help) >> • an indeterminate number brought and given away by Marcelo >> Claure, CEO of Brightstar, mostly to kids in the soccer team he >> owns and in raffles during games his team plays. >> • 25 XOs in assorted state of repair, through OLPC Repair Centers, >> mostly in the hands of local development / research / localization >> people connected with SCELinux and OLE Bolivia that I managed to >> get through customs on several trips. Most of those used for >> lobbying and grassroots work by the valiant Bolivian volunteers >> come from this lot, and maybe the ones with the biggest impact so >> far in gaining some government goodwill despite. As they were >> repaired, several of these also made it to the Manuela Gandarillas >> Center for the blind. >> • Apparently maybe 5 to 20 more have arrived through different >> independent Contributor Program requests I have no more detailed >> info on. >> • 12 machines from individual donors, currently in a La Paz city >> orphanage, through OLE Bolivia. 10 more from the same origin in my >> closet here in Austin, waiting for the next trip and whether I am >> foolish enough to brave customs again (last time it was messy, wish >> me luck) >> • an indeterminate number given away to assorted poo bahs >> including the President by Claure, Arboleda and others, some of >> them dating back to B1 models >> • Hope in a 2-year delayed 200-XO deploy with help from a Danish >> NGO. >> Dominican Republic >> • apparently 2.000 units were given away to kids by President >> Lionel at some public function. No further anything is known of >> this, except that apparently they were part of maybe 3.000 that >> came as gifts from Carlos Slim of Mexico when Slim was apparently >> handing out 3.000 lots all over Central America and the Caribbean. >> Note that Lionel was very connected with NN early on (maybe even an >> MIT alumn?), and some very, very early prototypes were given to >> Dominican researchers (we had BIG hopes in the DR being one of the >> first places to really take off) >> OT, enjoy this comic >> http://www.juanelo.cl/tiras/Juanelo1187.png >> >> - Juanelo! I am so angry with you! >> - Why is that, Mr. Minister? >> >> - You made me go through such an embarrassing situation! >>You remember those notebooks I asked you get bids on? >> - yeah... >> >> - when we presented them as gifts to those schoolchildren, they >> found out they were made out of sticks! I was like Mister >> Ridiculous! >> >> - >> >> - so, what? Next time you'd rather I prioritize quality over price? >> >> >>
Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] [support-gang] SoaS Good News/Bad News
Caryl, the best intro I know of is by Machtelt Garrels (Tille), whom I had the honor of meeting at FOSDEM a couple of years ago: http://tille.garrels.be/training/bash/ An OpenOffice presentation version of her guide is available too: http://tille.garrels.be/training/bash/BGB.odp The O'Reilly book (http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596009656) is an excellent resource, I have written all over the margins of my copy. Finally, the Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide (http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html) is an excellent resource with plenty of examples. There are a few Mac OSX-specific quirks, but none worth mentioning when starting out. There is however a neat trick: a file or folder can be dragged from a Finder window into a Terminal window where the path will be expanded, saving countless seconds of typing time (and typos). Hope this helps. Sean On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Hi Lucian and All, > > Thanks for the info. I'm glad I asked. Now that leads to another question. > If I wanted to skip the redundant download and open the image-writer-mac > file in Terminal from the larger download Tom G. posted > (Sugar-Creation-Kit-ver05.iso) how would I do that? I have copies of that > download both on my desktop and burned on a DVD. > > Caryl > > P.S. Is there a handy dandy guide to commands for the Mac Terminal anywhere? > Sort of an "Idiot's Guide to the Mac Terminal" or "The Mac Terminal for > Dummies?" > >> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:20:05 +0100 >> From: lucian.brane...@gmail.com >> To: cbige...@hotmail.com >> CC: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; >> support-g...@laptop.org; support-g...@lists.laptop.org >> Subject: Re: [SoaS] [IAEP] [support-gang] SoaS Good News/Bad News >> >> Those are two commands, separated by a semicolon. They could also be >> done on separate lines (as two commands). cd ~/Downloads navigates to >> your Downloads folder. You could also use ls to see what's inside. >> Then the second command does the actual image writing. >> >> On 8 April 2010 07:33, Caryl Bigenho wrote: >> > Hi James, >> > >> >> You must not open it that way. You should open Terminal, and type >> >> >> >> cd ~/Downloads; python image-writer-mac.py soas-2-blueberry.iso >> >> >> >> Doing it this way should not cause PythonLauncher to be run. Can you >> >> please confirm you were trying to open the file in a Finder window? >> >> >> > >> > Right... I was trying to open it in a Finder window. I don't have a lot >> > of >> > experience with the terminal. Do I type in exactly what you have above >> > including the ; or is is that a punctuation? >> > >> > I'll try it tomorrow. It's about midnight here. >> > >> > Caryl >> > >> >> -- >> >> James Cameron >> >> http://quozl.linux.org.au/ >> >> ___ >> >> SoaS mailing list >> >> s...@lists.sugarlabs.org >> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas >> > >> > ___ >> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > >> ___ >> SoaS mailing list >> s...@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas > > ___ > SoaS mailing list > s...@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas > > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Fedora Summer Coding
Am 09.04.2010 um 08:51 schrieb David Farning : > It might me worth submitting a few of the SoaS relate GSOC projects to > Fedora Summer Coding. [1] > > If any projects are accepted by FSC, it would leave more GCOS slots > open for non-SoaS projects. FSC looks close enough to GSoC that the > additional overhead of working with both programs would be minimal. Hi David, thanks for the heads-up and pointers. However looking at the current list of GSoC project proposals I can only find Sebastian's that's related to SoaS, all others seem to be focused on broader Sugar issues anyway:-) Cheers, Christoph ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
