Re: [IAEP] Suggestions Needed!

2010-10-09 Thread Caryl Bigenho

Thanks Tim,
That is an excellent suggestion!  With the tight budget constraints we have 
right now, it is easy to get caught up in the free part.  Focusing on the 
quality programs available with the $0 cost to sweeten the deal sounds like a 
good approach.  I'll sleep on it and do a revision tomorrow.
Caryl

Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 16:38:25 +1300
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Suggestions Needed!
From: paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz
To: cbige...@hotmail.com
CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; support-g...@laptop.org

On 9 October 2010 12:14, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote:






Hi Folks...
I'm working on the abstract for my proposed presentation at CUE 2011 in Palm 
Springs in March.  The filing deadline is Monday, but I was hoping to put it in 
tomorrow morning since we will be traveling Sunday.  They asked for an outline 
of the presentation in the abstract, that is why it is in that form.  I want to 
focus mainly on Sugar and SoaS for this talk but still put in stuff about OLPC 
and volunteering.  


My main suggestion would be to change the focus from free educational 
software, e.g. no cost, to the benefits of the Sugar Learning Platform and the 
other packages you're highlighting as quality educational tools in and of 
themselves. I don't know if this makes sense, but I feel that promoting free 
software as no cost cheapens it to a degree.


Tim
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Re: [IAEP] Suggestions Needed!

2010-10-09 Thread Tabitha Roder
Hi Caryl

The abstract does not paint a picture of it's an education project. This
applies to the whole abstract. You can even use these words it's an
education project if it helps you clarify that Sugar is all about the
learning.

e.g. A. Moodle: similar to BlackBoard, but free.  You do pay for support if
needed
Moodle is not similar to Blackboard - Moodle is based on a social
constructionist pedagogy, you would find some similar theories to those
floating around the education research office at MIT Media Labs.
Try writing: Moodle: a learning management system designed with a social
constructionist pedagogy as a guide. It is distributed under GPL so is free
to use and has a community of support available as well as paid support.

So now lets take the opening:

 This presentation will focus on free educational software that can be run
 on most computers from a usb thumb-drive or live CD: Sugar on a Stick
 (SoaS).  This software is helpful when no internet is available, you do not
 wish students to have access to the web, or you do not wish to permanently
 install something new on the computer.


This presentation will focus on the education tool known as Sugar on a Stick
(SoaS); a learning platform that can run from a USB thumb drive or live CD,
without need for installing anything onto a schools computers.
Then perhaps quote Sugar Labs website:
The award-winning Sugar Learning Platform promotes collaborative learning
through Sugar Activities that encourage critical thinking, the heart of a
quality education. Designed from the ground up especially for children,
Sugar offers an alternative to traditional “office-desktop” software.

As far as I know CUE2011 is a conference for educators who use computers, so
try to appeal more to the educators.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

Kind regards
Tabitha Roder
eLearning specialist and olpc volunteer
tabi...@tabitha.net.nz
Cell +64 21 482229

http://tabitharoder.wordpress.com/ http://tabitharoder.blogspot.com/



On 9 October 2010 12:14, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Folks...
 I'm working on the abstract for my proposed presentation at CUE 2011 in
Palm Springs in March.  The filing deadline is Monday, but I was hoping to
put it in tomorrow morning since we will be traveling Sunday.  They asked
for an outline of the presentation in the abstract, that is why it is in
that form.  I want to focus mainly on Sugar and SoaS for this talk but still
put in stuff about OLPC and volunteering.
 If you have a few minutes to look over my attached abstract and give me
suggestions for additions or corrections, I would really appreciated it!
 Thanks,
 Caryl
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Re: [IAEP] Suggestions Needed!

2010-10-09 Thread Caryl Bigenho

Hi Tabitha...
Thanks for the great suggestions.  I think I will steal some of your words!  
Actually, CUE is for Computer Using Educators, but that doesn't mean they are 
computer saavy.  Basically they are all looking for a magic bullet that 
will make their lives easier and help their students get better test scores.
I think I will leave out Moodle entirely... there is usually someone who will 
cover that.  Last year when they did, they portrayed it as an inexpensive 
alternative to BlackBoard. No mention was made of constructionist pedagogy.  In 
fact... no one is really mentioning that much.  Getting students to do better 
on the standardized tests is what the teachers are interested in... their jobs 
may depend on it!  You have to sneak it in... and Sugar-coat it!  
I think I will revise my Abstract to show how using Sugar, and other portable 
software, can be tied to preparing students for the tests... alas! That is what 
folks seem to need right now.  We have to be stealth advocates of 
constructionist ideas. 
Too bad the focus is on prepping for tests, not prepping for life!
Caryl
BTW Teachers are definitely not in favor of teaching to the test, but it has 
become a scary fact of life whether they like it or not:
http://projects.latimes.com/value-added/
http://www.neontommy.com/news/2010/09/los-angeles-teachers-protest-against-los-angeles-times

http://projects.latimes.com/value-added/faq/

Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 19:38:59 +1300
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Suggestions Needed!
From: tabi...@tabitha.net.nz
To: cbige...@hotmail.com
CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; support-g...@laptop.org

Hi Caryl

The abstract does not paint a picture of it's an education project. This 
applies to the whole abstract. You can even use these words it's an education 
project if it helps you clarify that Sugar is all about the learning.


e.g. A. Moodle: similar to BlackBoard, but free.  You do pay for support if 
needed
Moodle is not similar to Blackboard - Moodle is based on a social 
constructionist pedagogy, you would find some similar theories to those 
floating around the education research office at MIT Media Labs.

Try writing: Moodle: a learning management system designed with a social 
constructionist pedagogy as a guide. It is distributed under GPL so is free to 
use and has a community of support available as well as paid support.


So now lets take the opening:
This presentation will focus on free educational software that can be run on 
most computers from a usb thumb-drive or live CD: Sugar on a Stick (SoaS).  
This software is helpful when no internet is available, you do not wish 
students to have access to the web, or you do not wish to permanently install 
something new on the computer.  


This presentation will focus on the education tool known as Sugar on a Stick 
(SoaS); a learning platform that can run from a USB thumb drive or live CD, 
without need for installing anything onto a schools computers. 

Then perhaps quote Sugar Labs website: 
The award-winning Sugar Learning
 Platform promotes collaborative learning through Sugar Activities that 
encourage critical thinking, the heart of a quality education. Designed 
from the ground up especially for children, Sugar offers an alternative 
to traditional “office-desktop” software.
As far as I know CUE2011 is a conference for educators who use computers, so 
try to appeal more to the educators. 

Hope this helps. Good luck!


Kind regards
Tabitha Roder
eLearning specialist and olpc volunteer
tabi...@tabitha.net.nz
Cell +64 21 482229

http://tabitharoder.wordpress.com/ http://tabitharoder.blogspot.com/   




On 9 October 2010 12:14, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Folks...
 I'm working on the abstract for my proposed presentation at CUE 2011 in Palm 
 Springs in March.  The filing deadline is Monday, but I was hoping to put it 
 in tomorrow morning since we will be traveling Sunday.  They asked for an 
 outline of the presentation in the abstract, that is why it is in that form.  
 I want to focus mainly on Sugar and SoaS for this talk but still put in stuff 
 about OLPC and volunteering.  

 If you have a few minutes to look over my attached abstract and give me 
 suggestions for additions or corrections, I would really appreciated it!
 Thanks,
 Caryl
 ___

 IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
 IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
 http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep


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Re: [IAEP] Ask! Please! (Re: how to ask a question)

2010-10-09 Thread Tim McNamara
On 9 October 2010 11:33, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:

 Quoting Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com:

 I have a partial draft of a textbook on the subject at
 http://www.booki.cc/discovering-discovery/ It encourages XO owners to
 explore on their own and find out what questions they have before we
 give them answers.


 I like the idea. It encourages users to jump in and take risks, experiment,
 not worry if they have incomplete understanding.


Me too, and have added some feedback to NZ educators on why open source can
aid education in ways that closed source can't[1].

From [1]:

Here is one way that I can think that that open source benefits
learners, based only on my own experience however. What I've witnessed
from many computer uses is a sense of frustration and helplessness
when something doesn't work as they think it should. People who buy
software are trained to wait for automatic updates, or worse they are
forced onto purchasing the next version. Processes inside
organisations say, If you're having problems, call the helpdesk.*
The feedback loop might be an automated report that is generated and
sent to an anonymous server.

I would like to think that open source software would enable a sense
of critical analysis, exploration and problem solving. For me, when I
have a problem with a piece of software that I use, I tend to go
through a process of reflection:

  Is this issue something other people might be having?
  Can I reproduce the problem?
  Why is the system built like this, there must be a reason? It must
be useful for something.
  Is the hassle of the computer problem larger than the hassle of my
time to send feedback?
  How can I word a report to developers that explains what's going
wrong?

In short, I have the impression that users of paid software feel like
they don't have the skills to contribute. They don't see themselves as
a participant in a computer system. By computer system, I mean a
system that includes software, hardware and the user to generate some
useful output.
Open source software has helped me by creating a sense of empowerment
and discovery. I use the software that I want to run. When there's a
problem, my involvement forms part of the solution.

[1]
http://groups.google.com/group/mle-reference-group/browse_thread/thread/3caf7421439020d6
(scroll to bottom)
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